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| Response to Community Suggestion List in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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These suggestions- especially the top priorities- are truly desired by the designing community. Remember, the two hours it takes you for each feature will really improve the scenarios that get put out. If nothing, you can give "work experience" to some desperate, voluptuous programming intern at the price of oval office encounters. (Preferably not in the presence of Hillary Kriszan... ;) ) [ Monday, September 27, 2004 12:09: Message edited by: Corrigere ] -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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These suggestions- especially the top priorities- are truly desired by the designing community. Remember, the two hours it takes you for each feature will really improve the scenarios that get put out. If nothing, you can give "work experience" to some desperate, voluptuous programming intern at the price of oval office encounters. (Preferably not in the presence of Hillary Kriszan... ;) ) [ Monday, September 27, 2004 12:09: Message edited by: Corrigere ] -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Actually, they sorta do- your attacks hit noticably less often. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Sunday, September 26 2004 12:26
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The Faerie Bazaar is west of the Ruined Hall, west of the Spire of Ages, and northeast of Vanarium. You need to be registered, sorry. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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We didn't start the fire... oh wai -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Sunday, September 26 2004 10:41
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God, who here realizes that Rosy is jailbait? ... Everyone? Oh, right. Just wanted to make sure. ^_^ -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Saturday, September 25 2004 18:37
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It's not a bad idea. My first sceanrio was only 1 town. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Saturday, September 25 2004 18:31
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+rep for Stareye Many lols. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
| Scenarios in Blades of Avernum | |
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written Saturday, September 25 2004 18:29
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Poor you. You'll still be to weak to play my newest effort. -_- -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Saturday, September 25 2004 17:52
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I'm not going to say that FBM is guilty of ad hominem (the lawyer's english word of the day, it seems), but note that most people won't end their arguments with "I don't like you." unless you do something to merit it. EDIT: Thuryl got there first. [ Saturday, September 25, 2004 17:53: Message edited by: Corrigere ] -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Saturday, September 25 2004 17:47
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Give it some time. Us designers aren't just sitting on our duffs, after all. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Saturday, September 25 2004 17:20
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"No, they're not ingenius social commentary, groundbreaking high fantasy or a tour de force of the human soul, but they are very solid games with a good deal of lore, especially by the second and third." Ya know what? I retract my comment about "fourth grade notebook doodles." Let's replace that with something that's basically the same except clarified... "Jeff's games all derive from an undereducated sociological assumption of capitalism as a naturally occuring organism and a uniquely American and infantile philosophy wherein bureaucracy in all forms is the scourge of all government. Vote Libertarian." "Just off the top of my head, Avernum 3, which I've been playing recently, has its most interesting bits after the registration. (Spoilers ahead) Conversing and diplomacy with the empress, dealing with the giants and trogs and the final battle were fantastic." Clearly, then, you have not played a truly engrossing RPG: Let me cease insulting the FF genre for an instant here, if you will. In FF7, the game opens with Midgar City, a portion of the game where there are no cheezy emo scenes, no "walk through gauntlets of monsters for no reason," very little "let's play minigames to spice things up, since the storyline has nothing going for it anyway!" etc. It really is a good piece of gameplay. On the other hand, there is the final dungeon- in the "grand scheme" of things, it's the climax: Everything has built up to this. In the real world, however, it is boring as hell! "Walk this way, beat up these special, 3d heaps of HP, collect master materia, beat up boss, endgame." Sure, it means alot to the storyline, but the storyline no longer involves you, leaving you not to care anyway. I have to admit to one thing, however- A3 probably does have better gameplay after the registration barrier, but only since the gameplay before the barrier is so mundane. Every other game (especially Nethergate, A2, A1, GF, GF2...) gets worse after the barrier since it begins to exemplify RPG cliches: "Here are the dungeons, meander around and kill things and level up for a while until you can kill the final badguy." I hope that clarifies things. "Pretentious, much? You apparently didn't notice, but I was making fun of my own choise of words there." Then do both of us the favor and make it more obvious. >_> "You missed my point entirely. It's that little if and and that matter." Okay, so studying programming was a major life choice for Jeff- but there are also plenty of doctors or lawyers (less lawyers nowadays, but that aside) who enter their fields without caring for lives or the law respectively. And assume, then, that he cared back then (as was likely the case). That does not mean that he cares now, and seeing how he is likely unable to perform as well at another task as he does with software design, there is a potential argument to be made that he IS in it for the money since it cannot be made elsewhere. I won't toss something so caustic out there, but let's keep the door for it open. As for your supposed strawman claim, you posted: "If Jeff really only wanted money he could have made his games far, far deeper." That suggests that the reason that he doesn't make his games deeper is because he's in it for the love of the game. You don't say it directly, but despite that the rhetoric is fairly clear. "Oh good, an ad hominem... don't you go attacking mine now!" Take note: This is responding to a person who said that the community just likes to "*****" and thus telling him not to reproduce is only reciprocal. Maybe it didn't have to be said, but it's not like I'm responding to any serious arguments with that one. -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Saturday, September 25 2004 14:38
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Plenty of ideological contradictions and outright fallacies in that one post there. Let me try to deal with a few... "Every one of them has been well made, well written, and intelligently crafted." The games are competently-written simulacra entries derived from doodles made in fourth grade. Geneforge is nothing more than Pokemon 3d, the other games (from Exile I up to A3) are all experiments in keeping things solid and unique until the registration barrier. (Who genuinely believes that gameplay in a Spidweb game goes UP after one crosses the registration threshold?) Obviously superfluous in comparison to the rest of the arguments you push forward, but worth riposting nevertheless. "I think a few people are definatly overstating their case, having read all the links posted here, but mostly I understand the anger and feelings of betrayal (and tell me about your mother)." I'll tell you about my mother when she says I'm going to Yale and sticks me in a 2-year state campus. (You'll notice that most people in this thread are disgruntled, but not inconsiderate.) "-Anyone who makes games for anything but the money as a primary reason is not a professional, they are a hobbyist. You will not find them making games the quality of Spiderweb's." Honestly, I feel insulted and irritated reading this. The works of Alcritas beat those of Vogel by a longshot- if the 5 best BoE (well, including a few from BoA by proxy) designers knew C++ and weren't busy with school/work, they would blow Spidweb out of the water. FYI- The etymological root of "amateur" is to love. "-If a game has a great story, good plot, good characters and good gameplay, I think it has some heart behind it, period. If Jeff really only wanted money he could have made his games far, far deeper." If Jeff was in it for the money, he'd make his games deeper- well, most likely not (ex: FF series, Nintendo RPGs, etc), but that's a far more plausible argument than the reverse. If he loved games, he'd make them shallower? I suppose, then, that he has begun to love his games more and more since E1? "Oh yes, and the mail fraud thing. I really tried to look at this both ways but I simply can not within me find a shred of sympathy for 'the community' on this one; if Spiderweb really did miss an obscure legal note when they set up their mail system, well boo-hoo." It ain't mail fraud, nobody's taken him to court. That said, it's both indicative of his apathy and laziness that he refuses not only to add features to BoE but also to fix things which were advertised to work. Sometimes, this doesn't matter. Usually, though, it does. (Just try to hide a town, for instance.) Is it too much work to make a patch? And even if it is, he's legally and morally bound to make one. (Even more egregiously so, he hasn't even updated BoE to say that many of its listed features don't work: You have to go to The Lyceum to see what your limits are!) It's a horrible company policy, and if Paradox doesn't have to adhere to it, then neither does Spidweb. "Then there's the way he made Blades of Avernum 'against' what 'the community' wanted. Allow me to say first off that any indie game developer would have to be not only idealistic but plain dumb to not cater their game to the majority of their paying customers." 'The community' is the group of people who singlehandedly subsidize BoA, and did the same for BoE as well. (People buy BoA expecting infinite adventures, and will continue to do so for many years.) Thus even if 'the community' is not a sizable number of paying customers (FYI- it is), to limit designers is to limit the product, ultimately giving a blander product to the non-'the community' members who are paying customers. Isolating 'the community' like that is bad news, no matter how you slice it. Trust me, we've made excellent BoE scenarios- we know what we're doing more than Jeff gives us credit for (or at least seems to- but more on that...) "Some of the things he left out because they would have made it too easy to screw up players' parties or frustrate players, I think he had very good reasons for." The lamest excuse ever. Why? "Affect Statistic" nodes were in Blades of Exile. In BoE, you could lower every stat for every party member to 0. If Jeff didn't want us to have the means to do unfair things, he would have never given us that, leaving me to the conclusion that he says that out of his being too lazy to give us the means rather than his objections to our having them. (Mind you, I'm not too angry over this anymore- things could be improved, but BoA allows much more control. I'm just pointing out how hollow and worthless this excuse is.) As for your final point (whose redundant nature makes me inclined not to snip out its various pieces and respond appropriately): Why does Jeff have to do it, anyway? One thing you forget is that he has been approached multiple times with the idea of making BoE "abandonware," or allowing members of 'the community' to take their free time and fix Jeff's products for No Price Whatsoever. Honestly, Jeff could practically go to a local technical college and drag in some interns to do his dirty work- t'wouldn't be very tough, and it certainly wouldn't distract him from the Pokeforge 3: More Inane Philosophy installment he's working on which will inevitably revolutionize the gaming world as we know it. EDIT: And for reference, let it be known that if there is a Homey Maigre Vasectomy fund, it need only contact me for a sizable donation. 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written Saturday, September 25 2004 12:51
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*grumbles incoherently about the iB* -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Saturday, September 25 2004 12:21
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You aren't as frustrated with him, Kel, because you haven't been a Blades designer for over 4 years- the medium is great and the community does a far better job than Jeff could for many things, but having nonexistent company support is irritating. -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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written Saturday, September 25 2004 09:31
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They're too weighed down. It's called encumbrance- give your PCs more ranks in defense to counteract this. Or alternatively, take off whatever is weighing your PCs down. (Usually large suits of armor- the Chittin Plate Mail is a killer.) -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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I'm thinking of a different ChuCullain, then- you're speaking of a ficticious being, whereas I am speaking of a historical figure (or at least not a phantasmal being.) -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Wasn't ChuCallain a blacksmith? -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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I'm afraid not- try resending them. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Nevermind that- I ended up finding the graphics you sent anyway. There are 5 dialogue pics. I still might merge the two, but probably not. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Micael, are you insinuating that the big, bad BoE designers are a posse that won't allow Jeff to be popular? Jeff basically ignored BoE entirely after the 1st Contest, except for when he shat all over the community's chest with Bandit Busywork. Any disrespect he gets for that is reciprocal, and likewise will be the respect he gains for implementing the changes suggested for BoA. -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Not true, and pointless even still. (If Brett's testimonies are correct, then the makers of NWN are very supportive to their design community- updates and everything!) -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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No insults to be lobbed here! This thread is a sacred place. -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Re-send them, then. Maybe they got lost somewhere. Apologies, I'm not perfect. -_- -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |