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8000: Pseudoscience Postravaganza in General
Agent
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Tomorrow's leaders in action, today.

*Buys one way ticket out of the US.*

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Respect. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Profile #25
ET, like Alo said, your plan only functions if it is possible to deter other canister using shapers with gruesome examples. The matter of respect still does not negate that each and every one of them will think himself the strongest dude who ever lived. It might be fun to stick yourself up on a pedestal where you can watch your underlings battle it out, but in the end it is still the armies that wins wars. There is a huge difference between respect and deference.

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What do you want for X-Mas? in General
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I conjecture that the number one reason why I do not read for pleasure very often is because I do not have a big, comfy chair that I can lean back in. Unfortunately the number two reason is that I do not have very much time. It is a wonder I even have time for these boards.

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Respect. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Citing the player is lame, Kuber. If anything, the person ruling the Tullegolite army would be the player.

I still think that vying for power would cause too much internal stability to keep the war machine going. In your proposed system, ET, even if canister addicts have greater respect for each other, this does not prevent them from having secessionist tendencies.

"I respect you Tully, the Supreme Glowing Fiend, but I think I will go start my own uberarmy."
"How dare you?! Die!"

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Respect. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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A strictly imposed martial plan like that would work, and this unscrupulous army of canister shaped soldiers led by Geneforged demigods and bolstered by enslaved creations would be unstoppable.

However, you still need to deal with the issue of how long a canister crazed individual can stay sane. Why would a powerful officer want to give his underlings an opportunity to dethrone him? You argue that it is because they are trenchant enough to see the ultimate good, but I think the canisters remove their sense of communalism as much as they increase their ego.

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HELP PLZ!!!!! in Blades of Avernum
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Like everyone has been saying, there are many paths to victory in the scenario. If you want to finish as quickly as possible the first time, you will want to come back to see everything else the next time. Random dungeons like the pit of snakes and the slith temple are not necessary. If no one important talks about it, it's not important.

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For those of you who live in a cave... in General
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Good for you, but exactly what was awesome, your trip to Disneyland (presumably with your family), the storm itself, or the fact that you were not in the storm while others were?

Be sure to stay alive until us Windows users get G4! :cool:

[ Tuesday, December 19, 2006 14:54: Message edited by: Garrison ]

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What do you want for X-Mas? in General
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Profile #6
I do not want any presents in particular because sometimes the greatest gift is the knowledge that one is privileged enough in this world not to need anything else. Nothing I truly want this year can be bought, and I mean that in a literal sense.

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8000: Pseudoscience Postravaganza in General
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Profile #96
Some part of me still hopes that telekinesis and other psychophenomena are real. It would be an excellent boon to the otherwise physically inadequate race of human beings.

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For those of you who live in a cave... in General
Agent
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Profile #9
quote:
Originally written by Tyran:

That's not nearly as bad as the man who was asphyxiated by methane from his own flatulence.
Where did you hear this from? Give me a source and I will be pleasantly shocked.

I daresay a death primarily due to such a cause would be impossible. Methane only constitutes a small portion of the gases within the intestine, and if the space in which the person were enclosed was small enough to make this several liter volume of various gases significant, then the person would suffocate in a matter of minutes anyway.

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8000: Pseudoscience Postravaganza in General
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Profile #93
If any of these were proven true, though doubtful, they would no longer qualify for your Postravaganza, right?

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8000: Pseudoscience Postravaganza in General
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Profile #91
I think the manganese theory is ridiculous. The mere presence of an element does not mean that it will react in the way you want it to in order to produce the desired effect. We are full of fluorine, one of the most reactive and explosive of all the elements, and yet because it never gets a chance to become elemental fluorine, we are safe.

The human body is flammable, and so I think under some circumstances a fire could "spontaneously" occur, but you will have to give me a day to flesh out a good theory.

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8000: Pseudoscience Postravaganza in General
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Profile #80
I think something worth mentioning is that SHC cases often involve flames so hot that the bones break apart, leaving only charred bone dust. This extremely intense heat usually does not occur during normal combustion, and so the conditions must be just right for such a spectacular effect.

I believe there was one case of public SHC that involved a preacher, but then again it is probably an urban legend.

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Merry Christmas! (Statistics 2006-12) in General
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Profile #13
Good posting stats are my kind of online present. I can finally declare my year to be fulfilling. Now where is that eggnog?

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
Agent
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Profile #70
Proteobacterium? Sometimes I hate spelling. How do even know the proper spelling of this taxonomic name?

The points made against me about how my position against Kelandon is so unfair illustrate an annoying tendency in the community. The issue, I think, has been resolved, and yet little sentences of my posts are continuing to be picked apart. This whole thing started with a fairly innocuous sentence.

So I was unfair and have been contrite without unduly denying my instinctive reaction. I would have been more sympathetic to Synergy's position. You all continued with the logical, rhetorical aspect. The dislike arose from that dissonance. It is that simple.

Now then, is everyone satisfied?

EDIT: Garrghhh! I wish this all had gone into my thread. Bah humbug.

[ Saturday, December 16, 2006 14:15: Message edited by: Garrison ]

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
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Profile #63
Honestly I just wanted Synergy to stop changing his topics so that you all would not feel obligated to respond to them. My view is not wacky, just more wimpy than I'd like to admit.

Also, remember the last sentence of my commentary about you in my locked thread. I gave you the minor complement of not intensifying your posts as time went on.

I try not to believe in groundless propositions, Kelandon. Regardless, that doesn't mean you can convince me to love your posts in that thread. My dislike may be more emotional than logical, but what more can I admit? It is not as if you lose anything because of my dislike. Nevertheless,

quote:
Okay. Whatever.
and :)

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
Agent
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Profile #61
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

But was the hostility coming from me personally? Again, you're painting with a very broad brush here.
I am shocked at your continued offense to my conciliatory efforts. I called you a protobacterium, what more do you want?

To be truthful I ignored addressing your concerns because I thought I had made it clear that I acknowledged that there was little intellectual basis for my disliking your conduct. The thread felt hostile, and you can argue all you want against that, but you have to admit that many people thought it was not a "nice" debate. Each issue you took up and argued against was done so in a factually based and consistent manner; however, my question is whether it was necessary to destroy each of Synergy's points. Knocking down his beliefs with the type of science that he objected against was not productive after around post 30, in my opinion. I chose to stop debating at that point. You and others did not, and that was your decision. I have no "beef" with that further than that is not what I would have done.

I refuse to base a strong attack against your posts, Kelandon. I could appeal to being nicer, but that is a wimpy proposition, and there is nothing I hate more than voluntary weakness.

EDIT: First double post in a long time.

[ Saturday, December 16, 2006 07:33: Message edited by: Garrison ]

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
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Profile #60
[ Saturday, December 16, 2006 07:33: Message edited by: Garrison ]

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Happy Hanukah in General
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Profile #10
In Hebrew it would be something entirely different of course. Any translation, I presume, is phonetically based. Hanukah, Hanukkah, and Chanukah are all accepted forms for the holiday.

My history of Hanukkah is extremely basic, so actually I would like to know how important Hanukah was when it first originated, Randomizer. I always thought, perhaps naively, that it was always a major celebration.

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8000: Pseudoscience Postravaganza in General
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Profile #75
Hmmm, that's an interesting concept to think about. So you would not end up floating, right? You would drift, possibly accelerating, until you hit the crust, on which you could continue walking if you were close enough to the equator, right?

Also, does the Hollow Earth theory relate directly to Jules Verne's A Journey to the Center of the Earth?

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Happy Hanukah in General
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Profile #1
Where is the rest of the second sentence? Since when was the celebration of the Jews' mythic and miraculous military triumph over their enemies to preserve their whole race a "minor holiday?" Since when was Hanukkah only important because of that "other holiday," to wit, Christmas?

Happy Chanukah everyone!

[ Friday, December 15, 2006 20:24: Message edited by: Garrison ]

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8000: Pseudoscience Postravaganza in General
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Profile #70
Your tone suggests that actually happened. Please tell me that is not true.

The Patent Office once rejected an application for patenting all engines. Then the application was revised to include only engines that run on petroleum (meaning all oil based fossil fuels) and it passed through. Fortunately they revoked that patent soon thereafter.

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
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Profile #49
Just like E. Coli., Kel, you are usually agreeable to the gastrointestinal system, but sometimes you become excessively riley, and then you have to be expelled. Explosively. And yes, I just compared you to a microorganism that often causes people vomiting and diarrhea.

Synergy's first argument was that, despite the revolutionary revisions of the physical sciences due to quantum theory, the biological sciences have not undergone a a similarly massive change. Then he went on his diatribe against the drug companies, which he blamed for neglecting new approaches to medicine that would include some quantum theory style "energy." Then he tried to provide us with examples of neglected unconventional medicine that he claimed to be effective.

I just do not think the first argument was ended with closure. Other than that, I recognize that Alec, Alorael, and others rightfully pointed out to Synergy that he was shifting and expanding his platform haphazardly. This incident bothered me more than an online debate should have because it seemed very hostile to people with different views. It raises the fundamental question of whether we have changes into something more sharp and scathing than fun. As I have stated elsewhere, I do not think this is the case. However, I doubt I would want to be a part of a community that rejects individual thought.

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
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Profile #44
By "probably" do you mean that you presume everything I write to be false until prove otherwise? :P

My gut just didn't like you in that thread, Kel. If anything I think you guys forced Synergy to go deeper and deeper into his unconventional medicinal beliefs instead of just keeping him to his original argument. In fact, can you even articulate his original argument after all that clutter? If you can, my gut and I would think more graciously of you.

[ Friday, December 15, 2006 16:14: Message edited by: Garrison ]

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Hoax? in General
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I believe retinal disparity is the term for the process that the Magic Eye style images take advantage of in order to create that effect. When objects are close to you, like under 5 feet, the differences between the images of the object sent to the brain by either retina are great enough to be noticeable. The brain then interprets these differences to determine the distance between you and the object.

Retinal disparity is also used to refer to the measure of difference between those retinal images from either eye. Since this disparity decreases dramatically over distance to the point where the brain cannot detect the differences, the brain uses other methods to judge distance when the objects are further away.

Magic Eye software interpolates two images, each taken from different positions to mimic the fact that there is a distance between your eyes. When you cross your eyes in the right way, one eye will see the original image of one camera while the other will see that of the other camera. Then the brain will interpret these as a three dimensional image. The other major key to this is that the software must ensure that there are enough similarities between what the each eye sees so that the brain will interpret the content of the different images sent to it from each eye as the same object.

EDIT: Because retinal disparity is not used for the perception of large distances, Magic Eye images have a practical limit of depth. In a general analogy, if you cannot construct the desired effect on a cardboard stand in real life, then a Magic Eye image cannot emulate such an effect.

[ Friday, December 15, 2006 15:18: Message edited by: Garrison ]

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