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Happy Hanukah to everyone out there. As we start off another round of holidays. Jews get to celebrate a minor holiday elevated to commercial importance due to its closeness to that other one.
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Where is the rest of the second sentence? Since when was the celebration of the Jews' mythic and miraculous military triumph over their enemies to preserve their whole race a "minor holiday?" Since when was Hanukkah only important because of that "other holiday," to wit, Christmas?

Happy Chanukah everyone!

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Any holiday not listed in the first five books of the Old Testament is generally considered a minor holiday in Jewish tradition. After all those were the ones that God had chosen to be commerated.

I'm not sure when it started to move up in importance to compete with Christmas.

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La chaim!

There was something interesting on NPR today about Woody Guthrie writing Hanukah songs and having them performed by some traditional Hebrew music group in New York.

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Out of curiosity, is the 'official' spelling Hanukah or Chanukah?

If the mass letter from my MP is any indication, it is now bad form to mention one of Christmas/Xmas, Hanukah/Chanukah, or Season's Greetings without mentioning the other two in the same sentence.

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I prefer "Chanukah", because the "ch" is often used to represent the guttural h sound in Hebrew-to-English transliteration. "Khanukah" would also work.

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Anybody notice the airport (I think Seattle) that removed it's Christmas trees? Seems a Jewish Rabbi asked the Airport Authorities to display a menorah and threatened legal action if the A.A. continued to discriminate by displaying only Christian symbols.

The A.A. decided that it would have to honor all or none and it just didn't have the resources for option one so it took them down. Now the Rabbi is worried about getting Jews tarnished as the Grinch people who stole Christmas. Thats what happens when you threaten lawsuits during holidays - but it will only be the sad little Rabbi who gets tarnished.

(And this is not fascetious) Happy Hanukkah. I still love my Jewish friends.

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The next day the airport put the Christmas trees back up and the rabbi withdrew his threat of legal action. He just wanted to balance out the holiday symbolism.
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Originally written by Dintiradan:

If the mass letter from my MP is any indication, it is now bad form to mention one of Christmas/Xmas, Hanukah/Chanukah, or Season's Greetings without mentioning the other two in the same sentence.
If you're talking political correctness, I'll hear none of it. Most people I know are actually slightly offended by it. For instance, my Mexican friends like to be called 'Mexican', not 'Hispanic'; my Black friends like to be called 'Black', not 'African American'. Likewise with religions and holidays. Be respectful of other cultures and beliefs, but don't forsake your own.

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The next day the airport put the Christmas trees back up and the rabbi withdrew his threat of legal action. He just wanted to balance out the holiday symbolism.
Yeah… if I recall, he just wanted Hanukkah/Chanukah to be acknowledged as well. Not an unfair request, by any means.

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Originally written by Randomizer:

I'm not sure when it started to move up in importance to compete with Christmas.
I, being Dutch, still see a great part of the Christmas tradition as a rip off of Sinterklaas. Santaclaus... from the north pole? Yeah, sure.

Happy Hanukah!

(I think it's Hanukah, but my Hebrew spelling is quite bad...)

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In Hebrew it would be something entirely different of course. Any translation, I presume, is phonetically based. Hanukah, Hanukkah, and Chanukah are all accepted forms for the holiday.

My history of Hanukkah is extremely basic, so actually I would like to know how important Hanukah was when it first originated, Randomizer. I always thought, perhaps naively, that it was always a major celebration.

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I gave my girlfriend a yamulkah that I'd found on a street in New York. It was a nice, robin's egg blue satin and looked, oddly enough, kind of attractive. It only seems odd becuase I always thought yamulkahs were more functional than aesthetic. But maybe it's a calling for designer yamulkahs! (if that didn't pretty much completely undermine the humility that's supposed to be manifested in them)

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They're also spelled 'yarmulke'.

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Yes, but that's because English enjoys translation butchery. It's a kippah anyway! And if she likes it, it's a keepah in Boston. For that matter, I spell the hoiday (C)han(n)uk(k)a(h).

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By Thralni:
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I, being Dutch, still see a great part of the Christmas tradition as a rip off of Sinterklaas. Santaclaus... from the north pole? Yeah, sure.
Right. Why get elves to do your work when you can get cheap Spanish labour? :P

I celebrate both pakjesavond and Christmas, actually, although Christmas is celebrated for religious reasons and pakjesavond is celebrated as an excuse to eat as much pepernoten as possible.

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Originally written by Dintiradan:

I celebrate both pakjesavond and Christmas, actually, although Christmas is celebrated for religious reasons and pakjesavond is celebrated as an excuse to eat as much pepernoten as possible.
What's pakjesavond?

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Sinterklaas kapoentje,
gooi wat in mijn schoentje,
gooi wat in mijn laarsje,
dank u, Sinterklaasje.

It looks really, really weird to see that in print. I can say the words just fine, but wouldn't be able to spell them for the life of me. That's what Google's for.

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Yay! Another day to have a party!

Unfortunately, they probably won't make it a holiday in schools. -_-

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Happy Chanukah, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year.

That's right, I said CHRISTMAS! Not X-mas, Holiday or whatever bullcrap people are saying. If you don't believe in Jesus then don't cellebrate Christmas. That's the day we Christians cellebrate Jesus' birth.

This ain't really meant for the people here...I'm just venting. I do agree with the thought that the rabbi had with the exception of the lawsuit. Buisnesses should display all holiday's, but people shouldn't be offended to the point of threats! Again, Happy Chanukah, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year.

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Originally written by Dintiradan:

Sinterklaas kapoentje,
gooi wat in mijn schoentje,
gooi wat in mijn laarsje,
dank u, Sinterklaasje.

Hey! I know that song, since I'm half Dutch and we have a minor celebration on the 5th/6th. Hooray for chocolate letters and coins in your shoes!

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Happy Chanukah!
*distributes cookies*
With my friends, I just say "Happy Birthday" for holidays like this. It can't offend anyone based off of religion, and considering I never remember their birthdays anyway... :(

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Originally written by Nicothodes:

Oh, and hi!
HI!! Where *have* you been?!

And, to everybody who celebrates it, Happy Chanukah! I will wish a Merry Christmas to all those who celebrate THAT holiday sooner to the date.

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Originally by Nicothodes:

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With my friends, I just say "Happy Birthday" for holidays like this. It can't offend anyone based off of religion, and considering I never remember their birthdays anyway... :(
The funny thing is, that would actually make sense for Dikiyoba. Welcome back, stick around, drop off any excess sanity, etc.
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