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Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
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Profile #77
If our eggs were at least as tough as reptilian ones, then we should be fine. They would be slightly larger than a chicken egg because of that, but it would still be significantly smaller than a human baby.

I don't believe Tully is talking about customization per se. Anyway, I'm sure that more fertilized embryos will die because of the eggs being crushed, but it is not as if there are no miscarriages in our current age of medical science. We'll make up for that by laying 12 eggs a year. If a few too many survive, well, it's not your fault that they "accidentally" got put into an omelette.

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Thuryl: I mean, most of us don't go around consuming our own bodily fluids, no matter how delicious they are.
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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
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Mindduels in Avernum 4
Agent
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Profile #10
Mindduel in Exile 3 was very hard to pull off if I remember correctly.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
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Profile #72
Not all eggs need to be constantly sat upon before they hatch.

But really my main reason for supporting egg laying is the actual birth itself. Human babies are pretty big for the birth canal and often require an awful lot of pushing and heaving before they come out. Eggs on the other hand would be small and streamlined.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Saddam Hussein's Execution in General
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Profile #105
Though he may not have gotten the fairest of trials, does anyone actually disagree with the verdict of guilty? If you were a judge in the trial, is there anyone here who would have found him innocent?

It is a little ironic that in order to consider ourselves superior we have to aspire to give justice to he who would not dare give it to anyone else.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #64
Thuryl, that statement is going in my signature.

What is the general consensus now? Eggs awesome or dumb?

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Saddam Hussein's Execution in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #101
Did I miss something? Aran, have you been torturing members again?

Mars, I thought we have been through this before. You have made considerable improvement in your posts, and we acknowledged that. I, at least, am not asking anymore of you.

Concerning your question, I don't think the bombing cracked the rock encasing the natural oil deposits. I am pretty sure the oil is still where it has been for the last few millions of years.

However, if you mean something different by oil tables, then say so.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #56
quote:
Originally written by Nemesis:

quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

…throwing eggs at houses would be the equivalent of throwing fetuses…
There's some food for thought…

Quoted for hilarity. On that subject, how exactly would the Catholic church and the anti-abortionists feel about eating the unfertilized eggs?

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #53
quote:
Originally written by Andraste:

Go lay a huge, hard shelled egg Garrison.
Let me know how that works out for you.

Excuse me, but where did the "huge" come from? Slightly larger than a chicken egg is what I was proposing. Besides, I offered alternatives. Really, we are all fixated on the idea of monthly egg laying. Would you have any more objections if it only happened after fertilization?

I'll be damned if I don't win this engrossing debate. Demagoguery here I come...

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #50
Um, Alorael, wouldn't that be the other way around? The pro-lifers would be horrified at human eggs being destroyed, and so the pro-choicers would hurl them at their houses.

Nature has created far more efficient infants than our human babies. Mountain goat babies, or whatever their specific name is, start walking up steep slopes and craggy rocks hours after being born. Many snakes and lizards are fully developed after they are born. The human baby could be changed in a variety of perfectly plausible ways. There is no reason to believe why people could not deal with squishy little chick sized babies.

Also, eggs do not necessarily have to be extremely fragile. Ostrich eggs have extremely tough exteriors, and I'd imagine human eggs would be at least much stronger than chicken eggs.

If the babies were tadpoles, then we'd just have a lot more tiny eggs. It would be similar to fish spawning at that point. I decline to elaborate on that any further and leave the matter up to your imagination.

Now, are there any more objections to oviparity?

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #43
We need to organize our different conceptions of how exactly this egg laying would work. From there it will be a matter of picking and choosing which features are acceptable as replacements to our current reproduction system. I will order them in lists from most desirable to least desirable characteristics.

Menstruation - replaced by egg laying
-Egg laying only when fertilized
-Egg laying every 9 months
-Egg laying every month

Egg Size
-Chicken egg
-Human baby

PMS
-Only discomfort during egg laying
-PMS replace by Irritable Egg Syndrome

Development at Hatching
-Current human baby
-More advanced, which would be similar to the status of many reptilian offspring that are basically miniature versions of their adult forms
-Significantly less developed, like a tadpole

Population Issues
-Women can choose when to lay eggs
-It is OK to dispose of unfertilized human eggs
-It is OK to eat unfertilized human eggs

EDIT: My opinion:
-Egg laying every month
-Chicken egg
-Only discomfort during egg laying
-More advanced
-It is OK to dispose of unfertilized human eggs

[ Saturday, January 13, 2007 15:42: Message edited by: Garrison ]

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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
When you post here at the forums... in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #33
I remember that gimmick. None of them stick out prominently in my memory, though.

I plan to use the active topics feature some time in the future, but right now my system works just fine.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #28
There is no debate to speak of if the eggs were human baby sized. Also, I repeat that I assume that the eggs would replace menstruation. The cramps from laying might be greater, but at least they are shorter and more definite.

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This would really cause a storm with all the pro-life and pro-choice screamers, though.
Why would this cause debate within the abortion camps? Is it because people would scramble up the eggs and eat them?

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #25
quote:
Originally written by Nemesis:

As Andraste said, it's apparently pretty unpleasant for them as it is.
And you didn't already know that?

A chicken egg every month seems like a small price to pay to me. Heck, I'd be willing to accept the egg laying myself if it meant we could prevent all the birth related injuries and deaths.

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Thuryl: I mean, most of us don't go around consuming our own bodily fluids, no matter how delicious they are.
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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
When you post here at the forums... in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #30
Alright then, the royal we for you mister fake Emperor sir. I think I might try ending some of my posts that have arguments with blatantly opposing thoughts, hopefully for comical effect.

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Thuryl: I mean, most of us don't go around consuming our own bodily fluids, no matter how delicious they are.
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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
When you post here at the forums... in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #28
Someone has to come up with a new gimmick because the whole third person bit is being beaten to death like a horse. I guess that will occupy the back of my brain as I pretend to study this weekend.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #21
In my mind the whole point is that the egg is significantly smaller than a baby. The obvious problem of the human babies being the size of chicks when they hatch is counteracted by the increased number of babies that could be produced by a single female. Such is nature's pattern, and there is no reason why it could not work equally well for people.

I thought I'd never use the words human, baby, and hatch in the same sentence, but there you go.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Girls: would you prefer to lay eggs? in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #3
Most of us aren't women. It is still a legitimate question, though. From a practical point of view, eggs-laying reduces the chances of serious injury to the mother, so I'm for it.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Roofs? in The Exile Trilogy
Agent
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Profile #22
It is pretty amazing that a colony of misfits could have banded together to make anything useful.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
OK JEFF in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Member # 2820
Profile #24
Arghhh! The time machine paradigm you present is incoherent to me. If the time machine traveled through time by itself at random intervals, then it would make sense. However, if it must require an operator, then an absence of which would confound your prediction. Of course there are many ways to make it true, but nothing will necessarily happen.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
When you post here at the forums... in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #21
There is a "Today's Active Topics" feature? My god I have been living in dark ignorance.

On a side note, going back in my browser is extremely easy because I have a button on my mouse for that. I realize that I probably wouldn't do that if I had to manually click on the back button every time.

I have also noticed that most of you habitually proofread your posts after posting. I was actually a little surprised, but I guess that is because I proofread before I post.

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
GF4 item Editor by me! in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #5
quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Back before I cared to figure it out, scripts were in a totally different language and I hated looking at them. It felt like I was taking off the programs clothes, and then raping it by editing. Now, I quite enjoy raping scripts. But I can definitely sympathize with people who would rather have something like this editor rather than do the messy deeds on their own.
Employing something else to do your raping makes it feel so much less repulsive, doesn't it?

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
OK JEFF in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Agent
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Profile #21
Still not understanding. :confused:

And Alorael, why would a time machine be an elementary particle? Or were you describing merely the "chronotons" that enabled time travel, and the machine itself was some other object?

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Alorael: War and violence would end if we all had each other's babies!
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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
OK JEFF in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #19
Alorael, that still does not explain why it must be in every time at once. I am sure that the DeLorean from Back to the Future only went to specific times and places. At best it would only occupy all the time between dates, which is really no better than any other normal object.

Randomizer, that is a pretty big "theoretically". I theorize that through black holes lie the sanity that we have all left at the door.

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Drakefyre: Those are hideous mangos.
Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
When you post here at the forums... in General
Agent
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Profile #12
Why don't you just click the link?

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Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
When you post here at the forums... in General
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Profile #8
I can never wait to let the thing finish by itself because I rarely have that much time when I post here. Usually I do most of this in between tasks.

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