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cussing in General
Agent
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Profile #13
Most of the time, I consider being hurt by words as pretty weak since it is not physical pain (the most undeniable, clearcut sort of pain). But it is awfully lame to go around annoying people who just want you not to swear in order to get a kick out of free speech.

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cussing in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #5
In formal settings, profanity is disrespectful and should not be used except in the most extraordinary of cases.

In public, one should respect others who are offended by profanity. But if no one around minds, then profanity is perfectly acceptable in my opinion. To me, there is no compelling higher moral reason to avoid swearing. Like Sullust said, sometimes it adds the emotional kick to an otherwise bland sentence.

However, I think there is a limit to the frequency with which one should use profanity for various reasons. Excessive profanity causes the listener to become desensitized to the vulgar words, which become trite and lose their power to evoke any real emotion or interest.

Additionally, I find that people who swear too often have difficulty expressing themselves professionally and precisely at a moment's notice. When these persistent swearers cannot think of the specific word they want, they just use a swear word. Granted, most of the time this correctly conveys the overall mood and message, but at other times the final sentence is vague and impossible to interpret without further context.

For instance:

"That is some crazy @$$ @#%#!"
"Right... so do you like it or not?"

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Most in depth game. in General
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Profile #6
I cannot imagine how Jeff actually managed to get Exile 3 out the door. It is so incredibly massive. I remember playing the demo as a little kid and wondering when it would end. Then it surprised me by throwing me into the Tower of Magi, where I died nearly instantly.

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Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Video Game Addiction in General
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Member # 2820
Profile #26
Excellent post, Slarty (what is with Yama?).

I have to admit, I put in the supposedly part to elicit an eloquent defense of painting. I enjoy painting, but I have never experienced psychologist Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's sense of flow with painting.

I think some video games can be beneficial and enriching to certain people. It is all about how a person uses his experience with video games. Some people use DDR to lose weight. I know several people who use video games to relax and concentrate before important sports games or tests. Some people love puzzle games, and their minds are all the sharper because of it. And if I never played Spiderweb games, I would never have found this forum. :)

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Video Game Addiction in General
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Member # 2820
Profile #23
quote:
Originally written by Thoughts in Chaos:

Nalyd sees an addiction as something that would cause an inordinate amount of stress, anxiety, depression, or anger were it to be eliminated from a persons life.
...unless it was necessary to living, or living comfortably by normative standards.

I stand by earlier position, and I believe that a patient can in fact be accurately diagnosed with a video game addiction if he has shown a troubling history of rejecting all other activities in order to keep playing. I think this pattern of behavior needs to persist every day for at least several months, though. After all, most people lose their most intense passion for something within half a year if they are not addicted to it (sadly, most studies indicate this applies to passions for other people as well).

It is a shame that video games cannot be more constructive in the traditional sense. Even painting can be tolerated as an activity that consumes an artist's life for months at a time just because something supposedly enriching arises from it.

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Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Video Game Addiction in General
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Member # 2820
Profile #14
If you cannot stop yourself from compulsively playing video games, and it takes brute force and tactics to wrest you away from them, then you have an addiction. Does anyone care to disagree with that?

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Video Game Addiction in General
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Member # 2820
Profile #11
How insightful, Muffin.

Anyway, I think there are genuine cases of video game addiction, so the APA would be fully justified in creating a disorder for it. I remember there being some extremely rare and specific disorders listed in the DSMIV. I might check on that if I can find an entertaining example. However, the criteria for the video game addiction diagnosis must be very specific and, well, extreme. When I think of video game addiction, I think of the news stories about the Korean guy who died after playing 50+ hours straight of some MMORPG.

However, I believe these video game addictions are more a symptom of an underlying social disorder. Without the video games, I would predict that the addict would still nonetheless stay inside his house. If he had full and satisfying mental, social, emotional, and physical components in his life, then he would not resort to wheedling away the hours with his eyes glued to a screen. That's just my opinion.

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Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
The Challenge in General
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Member # 2820
Profile #1
I'm surprised there weren't more advertisements for this contest. It seems like a pretty big undertaking for the Doritos company. I really wonder how many people submitted fully fleshed out ideas, though. I imagine most of the idea submissions were one-liners.

And I refuse to call Doritos extreme until they release an undiluted habanero flavored chip.

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It Is Done in General
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Member # 2820
Profile #18
I agree that the Subterra forum did not deserve such an demeaning death. I remember playing Subterra many years ago, and I thought it was the best real-time puzzle game I had ever played. I enjoyed it much more than even such classics as QBob. The storyline, while sparse, was a refreshing comedic relief that successfully included a few swear words here and there.

Since I have a Windows computer, I have never had the pleasure of even trying a Richard White game. In all honesty, without all the sarcasm and trite inside jokes, were his games good? Galactic Core was some type of space strategy game, right?

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Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Elitist? in General
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Member # 2820
Profile #56
I have not been here in a while, so I am hoping someone can direct me to some recent examples of elitism on these boards. I would be very interested to examine them.

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Elitist? in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #17
Kel, good point about the association of the right wing with elitism. I forgot to mention that.

Nioca, that was very clarifying. I generally agree with your position.

I also have a random thought about one of the reasons for the presence of this perceived elitism on these boards. On message boards for multiplayer games like Warcraft III and Halo, many of the posts involve members discussing strategy or challenging each other to a game. Here at the Spiderweb Boards, we lack the option of achieving merit or superiority by competing in direct game matches. Hence, we instead focus our attention on employing rhetoric and winning intellectual debates.

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Elitist? in General
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Member # 2820
Profile #7
I believe that many people perceive this forum to be elitist for a variety of reasons. First of all, by convention we all use well-punctuated English even though this is only a game forum. We have some members who have highly intellectual or scientific jobs (particle physicist, etc.).

In serious discussions or debates, we tend to use a diction or tone that is scholarly or intellectual. We also place an enormous amount of emphasis on stringently sound, rational arguments. This in particularly may be perceived as purposeful pretentiousness and elitism. Many people could easily judge the rebuttals against their arguments on this forum to be excessively pedantic and technical in nature.

While I do not believe that the left-wing political connotation of the term elitist is the foremost issue at hand, there is still some validity in Orwellianking's point. The community in this forum seems to pride itself on being morally progressive, and we advocate a liberal consideration of minorities. Constantly taking the moral high ground and claiming that one's position is more civilized than a more conservative one can become very irritating very fast to someone who disagrees.

EDIT: I just wanted to reiterate my point that a god awful argument on these boards is mercilessly shredded, sometimes without any consideration for the poster.

[ Tuesday, June 12, 2007 17:29: Message edited by: Garrison ]

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Hello Everyone in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #20
Permanently? And how pornographic?

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Hello Everyone in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #18
Yes! Today I reapplied the thermal grease on my CPU, and now Geneforge 4 -- and the rest of Jeff's games for that matter -- will run on my computer without melting any circuits. I have to admit, Geneforge 4 is the best game of Jeff's so far. The tutorial and control scheme are much better than they were in Avernum 4.

And I am pleased that the early fights are a bit more challenging for the seasoned Spiderweb gamer on torment than before.

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Hello Everyone in General
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Member # 2820
Profile #11
Chinamericanking, did you used to have another PDN?

And I think I'll need a few more food items for a proper welcome back party, guys.

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Hello Everyone in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #8
Temporary? Damn.

Coincidentally, expect me back when Tully is banned again.

I think I will be able to fix my computer problem tomorrow, so I can probably start playing Geneforge 4 extremely soon!

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Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Hello Everyone in General
Agent
Member # 2820
Profile #0
I am back from an admittedly protracted hiatus of posting on these boards. In fact, I have not even played a single computer game in earnest since March.

As a high school junior, which I was until about three days ago, I had many standardized tests to take. These included the SAT, ACT, SAT Subject Tests, and AP Tests. Of course, in addition to that, there were regular school finals. I do not particularly enjoy studying, but I think I made the mature decision by devoting myself to it, though I had to grit my teeth for the home run stretch in the last few weeks. I even gave up my intramural basketball for a quarter for the sake of bolstering my future college application.

Regardless, I am here now, and I see that Jeff has released a slew of games. I will likely be playing them as soon as I fix the heatsink on my CPU. Many of you might not know this, but Jeff's games on Windows work the CPU at 100% all the time, even at the menu screen. This is an interesting design choice, to say the least.

I think I regret most that I missed what apparently were moderator elections. Or was Synergy a moderator before I left? :confused:

[ Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:13: Message edited by: Garrison ]

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Funeral Rites. in Richard White Games
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Member # 2820
Profile #20
If only he had made games for Windows. Then I'd be better acquainted. And for anyone who notices this post, I'll be back soon.

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VTech in General
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Profile #12
It would be impossible to stop all massacres like this from happening. I would decry any attempts to cause a pandemic hysteria over this, though what I fear the most right now is the possibility of copycat incidents. The most detestable thing about these events in relation to our society is that a single extremely brutal killing like the one this morning can set off a domino chain of others like it. That is actually what honestly makes me a little worried about the weeks to come.

I am torn up inside about what I think America needs to do about this issue for the future, and I think many others are too.

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VTech in General
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Profile #8
The people who snap and decide to use others as target practice are unsettlingly deadly. Preliminary reports indicate that he was only using two handguns, and yet he managed to kill and injure dozens of people. This particular psychopath must have been exceptionally skilled with firearms. I even heard speculative reports that he had called in the bomb threats to Virginia Tech a few months or weeks ago in order to analyze its emergency response procedure.

Regardless, this is yet another grim incident of pointless violence. I do not think that it is just a coincidence that 4/20 is coming up this week.

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Et tu, Brute? in General
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Profile #4
Really? I never liked Julius Caesar all that much for some reason. I have not read many Shakespeare plays, but I do like Othello a lot.

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Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00
Conservapedia in General
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Member # 2820
Profile #36
Conservapedia is not the worst thing in the world, and there are numerous other things or people I would rather eliminate in order to stem religious fundamentalism before I would even consider this website. Though I definitely think Conservapedia is exaggerating with the statement that Wikipedia is "six times" more liberal than the average American, Wikipedia is generally home to very liberal thinkers.

However, I do not particularly like it, either. It does take a confrontational and discriminatory stance toward, well, everybody who is not a Christian literal interpretor. It is funny that most people take it as a joke, too.

Is it just me, or does this Wikipedia article about Conservapedia reflect considerable bias?

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Hypothetical Greek Weapons of Mass Destruction Suck in General
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Profile #35
quote:
Originally written by Excalibur:

Its very hypocritical of the U.S to demand that other countries stop research in nuclear weapons. If the U.S has them, why can't they. Anyways, the U.S. is the only nation to have ever used weapons of mass destruction.[/QB]
I agree with you, but really it is time to answer the real challenge of my post: is there a better alternative? Faced with a decision between hypocrisy and a nuclear war, I would unabashedly choose the former.

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Hypothetical Greek Weapons of Mass Destruction Suck in General
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Profile #15
Ethanol is currently a terrible substitute for gasoline. It contains less energy per gallon, and it sometimes makes more pollution than premium gasoline. The biologically based process of making it is also highly inefficient by any standard.

Concerning nuclear proliferation, I think that the spread of nuclear weapons technology is always a bad thing. The Cold War relied on the principle of mutually assured destruction to deter the nuclear superpowers from lighting the powder keg. This is a foolish and dangerous doctrine, which will eventually falter when a country without much to lose decides to start World War III.

It may be hypocritical for the US to store thousands of nuclear warheads while denouncing the research and stockpiling of nuclear weapons in all the other parts of the world, but I do not see any other reasonable possibility. The US needs big bombs to ward off big enemies, and letting every country haphazardly pursue nuclear weapons is an even worse course of action.

I admit that I am biased to favoring the US, and honestly I would rather have it than China trying to act as an international nuclear technology regulator. Though it certainly has its flaws, I think the current system for nuclear proliferation control is the best we can hope for, at least for now. I forget which science fiction author said this, but the watershed for the next stage of human technological evolution will be the development of a defensive technology that could counteract or withstand nuclear weapons.

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Round Table on Morality, Theology, and Ethics in General
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Profile #52
quote:
Originally written by When That Was:

Garrison: I'd term your position atheist, not agnostic. Disbelief in God until proven otherwise is disbelief; agnosticism is believing that the existence of God is unknowable.
Unfortunately, there are two general definitions for agnosticism whose differences actually matter in this case. I might be using it in a frowned-upon way, but for me agnosticism always signifies intense skepticism over the existence of god, which leads directly to the weak theological ambivalence that is characteristic of so many of us noncommittal types.

I do not want to muddle the definitions even further, but I do want to point out that I believe it is impossible to know that there is no god.

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