Mindduels

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I have read about mindduels in some of the forums, but I dont know what they are or how they work. Can anyone explain?

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Play Exile 2. Avernum 4 doesn't have 'em.

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It's a high level spell that needs a certain crystal as a spell component. You fight a spellcaster and try to drain each other of spell points. Not really worth using and the very tedious in practice the one time I used it in Avernum 2.
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Are you kidding? Mindduel was awesome. I used to use it to raise my mages' sp far above the max. You could always rely on demons to top up your sp.

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I haven't used it in A2, so perhaps it was weaked, but Mindduel was a real killer in E2. It was, after all, designed to be the reasonable way to defeat the final boss.

A2 took that last bit out, which annoys me tremendously.

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Well it was a bit overpowered. Who can stop a mage walking around with 600 sp?

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By Slarty:
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I haven't used it in A2, so perhaps it was weaked, but Mindduel was a real killer in E2. It was, after all, designed to be the reasonable way to defeat the final boss.

A2 took that last bit out, which annoys me tremendously.
You seem to be saying that mindduel was present in A2. Am I having a brain fart right now? I don't remember anything like that.

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quote:
Originally written by Dintiradan:

By Slarty:
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I haven't used it in A2, so perhaps it was weaked, but Mindduel was a real killer in E2. It was, after all, designed to be the reasonable way to defeat the final boss.

A2 took that last bit out, which annoys me tremendously.
You seem to be saying that mindduel was present in A2. Am I having a brain fart right now? I don't remember anything like that.

Nah, it wasn't in the Avernum games.

Which is a HUGE shame, by the way. But we got prettier graphics instead :P

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quote:
Originally written by Nikki:

we got prettier graphics instead :P
That is a matter of opinion. Give me the varied exile sprites over their indistinguishable avernum counterparts, any day.

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Well, that would explain why I never used it in Avernum 2. :P

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Mindduel in Exile 3 was very hard to pull off if I remember correctly.

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quote:
Originally written by Garrison:

Mindduel in Exile 3 was very hard to pull off if I remember correctly.
Plus, finding Smokey Crystals was difficult too!

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The Smoky Crystals were only used in BoE. That was one of the few differences between E3 and BoE. E3 used a special item just like E2 did.

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Must be a long time since you played exile, Slarty! In both E2 and E3 smoky crystals were required in order to cast mindduel. Luckily both games included shops selling them in infinite quantities.

I suspect the change you are thinking of is capture soul, which required a special item (soul crystal) in E2/E3, but did not require anything in BoE.

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If memory serves...
In E2, Mindduel was *free*, it was, if you had the components, an easy way to boost up your SP, assuming you didn't get drained.
However, in E3, and I think in BoE, it cost 12, making it much less efficient for gaining SP.
12 SP is a lot, also, E2 didn't have stacking or weight restrictions, making it possible for all your guys to run around with 99. E3, they had a 1 wieght per, I think.

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Yes, E3 mind-dueling was rarely helpful. I didn't really miss its disappearance from the Avernum series.

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