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Geneforge on the Ermarian Network in Geneforge Series
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Fair enough.

That said, I just did a search, and "archive"(s) does not appear once in any Geneforge game.

What about "The Library of Sucia"?

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Geneforge on the Ermarian Network in Geneforge Series
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I found one, Aran. Suciapedia :P

What about "Arcana Sucia" or "The Sucia Arcana"? Arcana are secrets, and the name is a bit of a compromise between the "Encyclopedia" and "Lyceum" styles.

Alternately, "The Codex" or "The Sucia Codex"?

I'm still inclined to go with "Encyclopedia Sucia".

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Geneforge on the Ermarian Network in Geneforge Series
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Right now, the proposed website *is* an encyclopedia, and it *is* modeled after EE, although differing greatly in some respects.

If we don't want it to be an encyclopedia or if we want it to be nothing like EE, than we need to take a giant step back and re-think the project.

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Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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You need less coffee, more...

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Geneforge on the Ermarian Network in Geneforge Series
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ET: Do you have a source on that first assertion? I can't find it in my dumps, though at the moment they don't include ending text.

EDIT: Never mind. I found it. It's in the intro text.

...so, ET makes a good point. Terrestia is apparently the smaller part of the world. Most of the names I can think of aside from Encyclopedia Terrestia suck.

...what about "Encyclopedia Sucia"? That would make a lot of sense, actually, since everything the encyclopedia concerns can trace its origins back to Sucia island.

[ Monday, January 21, 2008 22:20: Message edited by: Love Parallelogram ]

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Geneforge wiki? in Geneforge Series
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terrestria seems to be the most popular by many votes.

I think barred.ermarian.net would actually be pretty cool, personally.

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Geneforge wiki? in Geneforge Series
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terrestria seems to be the most popular by many votes.

I think barred.ermarian.net would actually be pretty cool, personally.

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Geneforge wiki? in Geneforge Series
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quote:
Originally written by Arancaytar:

and Slarty has some strong words when he advises :P
I'll take that as a compliment. :)

Anyway, don't consider this strongly worded advice, but I would nominate Dikiyoba, who I think has one of the levellest heads here.

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Geneforge wiki? in Geneforge Series
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I don't think the factional debates are really the issue. The philosophical ones are, and those are closely connected. "Regulation of shaping" certainly ought to present the views of different sects, as would "Creation freedom". But I think those debates have mostly been civil and calm here.

The ones that get out of hand are the ones about pointless moralistic judgments, i.e., are the drakons more or less morally reprehensible than the humans. Who cares? That's not an encyclopedia topic. Moralizing is not an encyclopedia function. "Loyalists" "Barzites" and "Rebels" (and so on) could certainly have small sections on "Criticism" or "Acclaim" (much as Wikipedia has for many public figures and institutions).

And really, these are fairly straightforward. Every faction will be criticized by others for its views on shaping regulation and creation rights. Every faction will be accused of being hypocritical. And each faction has one standard ad hominem argument: the Shapers are slow to adapt, the Awakened have their heads in the clouds, the Barzites are megalomanaical, and so on.

If any articles DO get out of hand, they can always be locked so that only designated users can edit them.

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ACS - TNG in General
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Geneforge was originally going to be pure sci-fi, I believe, but Jeff changed to it a fantasy-esque hybrid because he was worried about the commercial credibility of a game without swords or spells.

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Geneforge wiki? in Geneforge Series
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Yes, let's do this.

Aran, let me know when the wiki is online -- at your convenience, of course -- and I'll get started working on the basic structures.

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Game weirdness in the fens in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey in General
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Oh, Salmon, I miss those days. Quit your silly marriage and come back to me.

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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A minor correction: it's graymold.

I'm waiting gleefully, though...

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Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey in General
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*slaps salmon with a sea bass*

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The Avernum RP, OoC Thread in General
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Nothing is stated explicitly. It says his face "almost looks human," though. How the heck is that evidence of a Nephil-Slith crossbreed?

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"You come face to face with an enormous nephar. He is a peculiar-looking creature. His fur is thin and missing in patches, and his face is peculiar. It almost looks human.

"His arms are tattooed with strange symbols, and his claws are long and tipped with steel spikes. He is truly a fearsome creature.

"Then, when he sees who you are, he lets out a long, hideous howl. It is a painful, screeching sound that comes straight out of his nephil heritage. His skin begins to glow faintly in the shadows of the cave.

"Then he pounces, claws outstretched."

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Game weirdness in the fens in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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More relevantly: if a lot of players are using cheats simply to avoid the sandwich problem (I'll go make a sandwich because the game is taking a long time to do something that has no interaction with me whatsoever), the game could use adjusting. Friendly areas should have a "scram!" option available that -doesn't- break the game.

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The Avernum RP, OoC Thread in General
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I suppose then that the Nephilim enslaved by Nepharim in Exile 2 were basically comfort women. I never thought about it that way...

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Deathmatch Tournament -- Round Two, Part One in General
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Magma was gone before the Deathmatch Tournament and its threads began, so that's a poor measuring stick in this case.

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World building poll in General
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What this thread needs is Minotaurs.

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Geneforge wiki? in Geneforge Series
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Dintiradan put it well.

I'll suggest we adopt my two statements above (to start with; not in immovable ink, and certain open for debate or rewording). Since the primary reason we're making the wiki is the game-world information, let's have that be the default type of content for a section and not require a section header. Gameplay information can go under a "Gameplay information" section header. If later on we start putting too much in for one section, we can decide to split it up for certain types of entries (creations are all I can really think of where this might apply). Fanon should probably be avoided, but if any is relevant it should go under a "Fan fiction" header.

If we ever decide to put in information that is entirely FAQish, such as build advice, we can develop a separate structure for such entries and categorize them as something appropriate. Though I don't think that's likely to happen.

To summarize, an article would consist of the following:

- One or more sections detailing in-world information. Typical sections might include Biography, Location, Physical Appearance, etc., just like on EE.
- Optionally, one section titled "Gameplay information"
- Optionally, but very rarely, one section titled "Fan fiction"

I've also been working on a very long list of stuff that probably deserves an article, using batch find and all four game script sets, which I'll post up once the wiki is up and running.

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Deathmatch Tournament -- Round Two, Part One in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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I think Agrajag is a better approximation, which is ironic given a certain member's moniker.

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Geneforge wiki? in Geneforge Series
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Simple fact: Geneforge is not going to have that kind of community. Without either (a) some kind of mass media publication of the sort that fantasy novels and TV shows enjoy, or (b) a scenario editor as accessible as BoE was.

Personally, I would really like to avoid total fabrication in ET. That way there's no need for an Apocrypha / Sourcing system like we use in EE now. Reasonable extrapolation is one thing, but genuine fanon is another.

Perhaps a good way to put it could be as follows:

1) "The primary purpose of ET is to organize and present information about the world of Geneforge, as presented in the games."

2) "Other information may be included provided it neither conflicts with nor muddies this primary purpose. Such information should be clearly labelled and separated from general content."

#2 suggests that anything besides story/world information can be included if there is a compelling reason, but it should be clearly separated and labelled. I really think page sections are the simplest way to do this; either "Fan fiction" or "Gameplay details" or whatever.

The only thing this interferes with is the stupid conceit that the encyclopedia is actually written IN the world of Geneforge. Which adds nothing. An encyclopedia project is not an RP. The general content can be written in the same realistic tone without fabricating a Defniel University. :P

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Favorite Spiderweb Game in General
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Nethergate and Nethergate: Resurrection really deserve separate entries. I know they have more in common than Exile and Avernum, but some of the differences are more than striking enough to make one preferred: mainly the skill point system.

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Deathmatch Tournament -- Round Two, Part One in General
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Ephesos is wise. Do not generate Saunders vs. Deathmatch, because Saunders never gets upset.

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