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Future Series - What Would You Like? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #8
Does anyone else remember the humor-based RPG that Jeff talked about having wanted to do for a while? It sounded pretty cool. (Jeff, any comments on the likelihood of that happening now?)

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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Future Series - What Would You Like? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #1
The lack of classes in Spiderweb games is just Jeff's preference, I think; we know that he does play plenty of games with classes so he knows it can work. Jeff just prefers unclassed character development. This has been true of every game since Exile 1, so it doesn't seem likely to change anytime soon.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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The Time has Come in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #150
Then leave.

You have been here long enough now to realize that things aren't going to change. This is just the way things are here.

When you complain so fiercely about how you are treated, it just makes things worse. You are not sowing the seeds of change, ET, you are just stirring up negativity. Perhaps you will catalyze the formation of a wonderful society someday, but not right here, right now.

Personally, I'd prefer that you stay. But if you don't like it here, quit complaining and leave.

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"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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The Time has Come in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #145
You were _not_ banned for spamming, although you did somewhat spam the picture. There's a subtle distinction here. You were banned because you were asked by the mods not to post that picture, and then you posted it again, repeatedly. And the reason you were asked not to post it was because of its (arguably) hateful content.

The frustrating thing about this conversation is that I am trying to be on your side, ET, but you keep acting like I'm trying to take you down. I think, oddly enough, Salmon's words in this topics for the wisest. You see others as being against you whether or not they are, and then you complain about it so much that you end up turning people against you for real.

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"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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The Time has Come in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #141
quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Would you consider Kelandon an oldbie? In the thread that got my my very first banning (a tread called "Shapers Keeping Secrets", a Geneforge debate thread), he called me a doofus. I responded (without any name-calling) and Stareye, in his infinite wisdom, somehow gathered that my response was, quote, 'arrogant' and gave me my first ban. I did not break the CoC, I was banned for responding to a direct insult from someone whom I think we can all agree is an oldbie. This was acceptable to other members because I was new at the time. I can go on if you wish.
ET, are you serious? The topic is here. Kelandon's exact words were "It would help if you finished reading the sentence, you doofus." This is not a direct insult. "Doofus" is a word people use when they're being friendly.

What happened is simple: the mods received a number of private complaints about your attitude. When it next showed up in a thread, *i asked you to chill out. You refused and snapped back. Thus, a ban. Less clear-cut than your ban for hateful pictures, but it's hard to argue you were being reasonable!

And more to the point here, you were DEFINITELY being more argumentative and less amiable than the older members in that thread. I don't think you can argue bias on this one.

Edit: Jeran, was it really necessary to quote a screen's worth of text in your last post? It really does make it harder to follow the thread when there are massive quote pyramids inserted for no reason. Please stop doing that.

[ Thursday, April 10, 2008 05:09: Message edited by: Disappearer ]

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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The Time has Come in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #136
Iffy actually adapted and grew over time. I don't think anyone beat up on his annoying behaviors any less over time; there just were less of them to beat up on. Iffy learned. He turned an annoying gimmick into a funny one by drastically reducing the amount of time he spammed it and refining it a little bit.
Iffy also changed how he reacted to others. In the beginning he was very reactive and defensive if someone, for example, said he was being annoyed. After a little while he started to be more easy going; he listened to feedback if it was legitimate and laughed about it otherwise.

ET, I would like to know who exactly the oldbies were who attacked you in Geneforge debates. Because I can't think of any older members who've really been part of those debates in the time that you've been here -- or even very many members who are accepted and incorporated into the community here.

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"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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The Time has Come in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #125
quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Useful members are allowed to break the CoC? How is that fair? All that accomplishes is a reinforced elitist system that scares off outsiders. And who decides what is useful?
A long essay could be written on this topic. I will just say two things here.

First, "scares off outsiders"? Seriously? This is not a trendy nightclub that is being a little too exclusive. This is a ramshackle internet forum. If anyone is scared off I imagine it's by coming and seeing so many threads that are clear wastes of time. But really, if somebody is scared off, why does it matter? It's not like there is a shortage of members. This forum does not provide anybody with a vital service. It's a recreational community which doesn't rank as quintessential in anybody's life. Let's keep some perspective.

Second, there are more constructive ways to approach this question. When I first became a regular here, I had a very similar reaction. I asked more than once why TM wasn't banned. I also tried to defend Arghhhhhhhhh. But I said these things politely and I respected the fact that the community here existed before me and was not subject to the whims of my intelligence.

It's that last point that gets you in trouble. You come off as expecting that we should all start doing things your way because it's more rational. I share some of your opinions, ET, but your method of delivery needs heavy revision.

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"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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The Time has Come in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #111
Also remember that people have their own personal reactions to the way others act, and those are legitimate. While as a whole it might be that certain members are ostracized it's not as if there's some kind of hive mind deciding that. I, for example, gave Nioca probably a harder time than he deserved, while I never had a problem with ET's remarks; just due to my own proclivities and hang-ups.

Also, while Alorael makes a good point, I don't think oldbies really receive better treatment. They may be tolerated more, but TM certainly attracted as much vituperation as any new member. Alec certainly attracted more flames. They are extreme examples of oldbies, but you are an extreme example of a newer member, ET.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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Another picture thread. in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #45
That was a different recurring member, wasn't it?

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"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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Man six months pregnant in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #2
Really. The article (and topic) titles are a bit misleading...

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"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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Why can't we just be happy? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #56
The several definitions of CBT given here have been more than a bit off. Wikipedia provides a pretty even-handed summary:

"A Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) is a psychotherapy based on modifying cognitions, assumptions, beliefs and behaviors, with the aim of influencing disturbed emotions. The general approach, developed out of behavior modification, Cognitive Therapy and Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy, has become widely used to treat various kinds of neuroses and psychopathology, including mood disorders and anxiety disorders. The particular therapeutic techniques vary according to the particular kind of client or issue, but commonly include keeping a diary of significant events and associated feelings, thoughts and behaviors; questioning and testing cognitions, assumptions, evaluations and beliefs that might be unhelpful and unrealistic; gradually facing activities which may have been avoided; and trying out new ways of behaving and reacting. Relaxation and distraction techniques are also commonly included. CBT is widely accepted as an evidence- and empiricism-based, cost-effective psychotherapy for many disorders and psychological problems. It is sometimes used with groups of people as well as individuals, and the techniques are also commonly adapted for self-help manuals and, increasingly, for self-help software packages."

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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Episode 5: 'Spiderweb Resistance'. in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #114
*two-handed facepalm*

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
The Time has Come in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #39
*facepalm*

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Deathmatch Tournament -- Round Two, Part One in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #189
I do work way too much. The good news is that in one week, one sweet, sweet week, I am taking a two month sabbatical. This last week will be extremely busy but I would expect I can find the darn things on my hard drive and send them to you early in April.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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The 2008 Elections in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #61
Unless you simply say "taught at the law school," which puts _what_ he did even more plainly.

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"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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Why can't we just be happy? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #16
Also, Fahrenheit 451.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Why can't we just be happy? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #7
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

As Douglas Adams pointed out the last guy that tried to get people to be nice to each other got nailed to a tree. :)
"Ay! what 'mong men as knowledge doth obtain!
Who on the child its true name dares bestow?
The few who somewhat of these things have known,
Who their full hearts unguardedly reveal'd,
Nor thoughts, nor feelings, from the mob conceal'd,
Have died on crosses, or in flames been thrown!"
-- Goethe, Faust

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Episode 5: 'Spiderweb Resistance'. in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #69
Escaping puerility -- whether your genuine character or simply a way that others see you -- is like escaping from a Chinese finger trap. If you try to pull out straight away, you'll only get more stuck. You have to relax.

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"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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