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Way less sensational than you let on. What's the big deal?
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Really. The article (and topic) titles are a bit misleading...

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Methinks Excalibur just saw the title, and thought it was postworthy. Honestly, this doesn't seem that controversial. I just hope everything goes smoothly for him.

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Nice calm day on the ubb, ruined. I'm not even sure this tripe is worth a rant.

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So he's biologically female, but identifies as a man, and got pregnant. Woohoo.

The headline makes it seem a lot stranger than it is - it's not at all like those myths about Zeus bearing children that hatch from his head or his thigh.

About the only ones who can remain excited about this after reading the article are the fundamentalists...
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Yeah, I read this in the papers about a week ago. It's a nice story really, and at least the two parents are actually in love, and not dragging the baby into the middle of a warzone.

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quote:
Originally written by Arancaytar:

So he's biologically female, but identifies as a man, and got pregnant. Woohoo.
There are specially reserved places for such people. They're called mental institutions.

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quote:
Originally written by The Mystic:

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Originally written by Arancaytar:

So he's biologically female, but identifies as a man, and got pregnant. Woohoo.
There are specially reserved places for such people. They're called mental institutions.

No offense, but that's incredibly close-minded. A lot of people out there identify as the opposite gender. It's actually a lot more common than you might think. It really isn't insanity either.

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drakefyre beats this he has been pregnant for over 6 years

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Nalyd would enjoy knowing who this troll is.

Mystic, what's so bad about transsexuality?

[ Friday, April 04, 2008 11:15: Message edited by: Prophet ]

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Originally written by Prophet:

Nalyd would enjoy knowing who this troll is.

Either a old-bie in disguise, or a person from the noob headquarters.

[ Friday, April 04, 2008 11:22: Message edited by: Xel'Raga ]

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quote:
Originally written by The Mystic:

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Originally written by Arancaytar:

So he's biologically female, but identifies as a man, and got pregnant. Woohoo.
There are specially reserved places for such people. They're called mental institutions.

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It's quite sad that people aren't even allowed to be themselves, in a way that makes no difference to anybody else's life, without having to deal with comments like that.

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Nalyd:
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Mystic, what's so bad about transsexuality?
For that matter, what's bad at all about transsexuality?

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It's "sinful". Mystic is a religious Christian of some sort, IIRC.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't discriminate on the basis of gender identity, at least. ARRGH!

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ADoS: Someone can be Christian without trying to impose ideals on other people. For instance, the lifestyle isn't something that I would personally follow, and it isn't even something that I really understand. But in this day and age (especially in the US, a country defined by freedom), acceptance of other people's ways of life is somewhat necessary.

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The past 10 or so posts are primary evidence of why this thread should never have been started.

Please, take note.

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I never said he was imposing his beliefs on anyone. Stating them in a rude way, perhaps, but not imposing. I give him credit for that.

I don't mean any offense, Mystic, since you're generally cool. I should have kept my mouth shut, since it was rude and you can speak for yourself. I apologize.

My statement about the FSM is separate and still stands, however. ARRGH!

EDIT: Agreed, Salmon.

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If he is so sure he's a man, why would he choose to go through the most woman thing any human can go though? I know they had their reasons and whatnot, but a true man would have said "No way I'm doing that, we're adopting."

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Some people just like biological offspring. Perhaps they want to preserve the bloodline.

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Originally written by The Almighty Doer of Stuff:

It's "sinful". Mystic is a religious Christian of some sort, IIRC.
I'm not offended by this story. I think it's amusing. I would still consider "Thomas" a woman, though. A woman that looks like a man is not therefore a man.

Trying to blur the line between male and female is more a transgression of nature than anything else, I think. And calling it a "sin" the way you did implies that any "rule" against it is mere convention and prejudice. Again, I'm not offended. I just think it's unnatural. Mystic's comment about mental institutions was extreme, perhaps, but I see his reasoning. In this case, though, it seems to be working fine.

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Originally written by Prophet:

Nalyd:
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Mystic, what's so bad about transsexuality?
For that matter, what's bad at all about transsexuality?

And whats so fantastic about it? Please don't give me any of that 'freedom of choice of who people want to be' crap. That to me isn't a completely real reason.

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Originally written by E=MC Hammered:

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Originally written by Prophet:

Nalyd:
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Mystic, what's so bad about transsexuality?
For that matter, what's bad at all about transsexuality?

And whats so fantastic about it? Please don't give me any of that 'freedom of choice of who people want to be' crap. That to me isn't a completely real reason.

It is, even if it is not to you.

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Trying to blur the line between male and female is more a transgression of nature than anything else, I think. [...] Again, I'm not offended. I just think it's unnatural.

It's pretty hard to logically define what is "natural" and what isn't, and IMO it's meaningless. What does it matter what people do, as long as they don't hurt or exploit themselves or anyone else?

By your reasoning, it's also quite unnatural that we're all sitting in front of metal and plastic objects that shine bright lights and have lots of buttons to push.

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Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

If he is so sure he's a man, why would he choose to go through the most woman thing any human can go though? I know they had their reasons and whatnot, but a true man would have said "No way I'm doing that, we're adopting."
A "true man"? Really?

A person's gender is defined by their anatomy and/or by how they identify themselves. It most certainly is not defined by their actions.

Words like "true", "right", "correct", "incorrect", "natural" and "unnatural" are completely unuseful in this area.

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For the record, I, a practicing Christian, have no problems with transexuality.

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