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Second 1/10 Contest Final Results in Blades of Avernum
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Congratulations to everyone. I'm glad you are all continuing to support Blades.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Aran... look at the card. Remind yourself of how religion is handled here.

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"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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My Music in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Very cool, Nico.

The piece makes me wonder, what do you think of Bartok?

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Avernum 5, April Update in Avernum 4
Raven v. Writing Desk
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What is this, the Anama Sutra?

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It wasn't the words themselves so much as the concept that were coc-breaking.

I'm somewhat surprised to see the votes go so overwhelmingly in favor of the seeded players. Several of the matches in particular surprise me (and at least one is going to be another spectacular overturn).

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On TM's behalf:
quote:
1. Typically, Ephesos would lose, but it's in Lazarus' own scenario that alchemy can do damage. :P

2. Infernal is better armed.

3. Nicothodes. Dikiyoba may have powerful attacks but is also so used to self-reference that she is highly likely to attack herself by accident.

4. Thuryl. Because Sailor Moon is broken. Sailor Moon is power rangers for girls (and [...] for guys).

5. Vlish. Because no matter what attacks Synergy has, he'll waste so much time spouting hot air that he'll never get around to using them.

6. Magma Dragoon. NG weaponry sucks, and nobody at SV really likes him enough to fight for him. :P

7. Alex > Riibu. Hm... No, Riibu. Chaos attack can do significant damage to Alex' banal and predictable quasi-humor.

8. Saunders has love on her side, but Schro's actually a pretty nice guy. Meh. It's a tough call. Ultimately? Schrodinger. Love falls in the face of science..


[ Friday, May 04, 2007 17:53: Message edited by: Yama ]
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quote:
Originally written by Lenar:

It only takes one death to lose.
For clarity, it was established in Round One, Part One that this is not the case.

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MATCH #5: Phobia vs. Valeta. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/vlish.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/synergy.png)

MATCH #6: ...no comment. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/magma.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/tyran.png)

MATCH #7: The invisible vs. the unquestionable. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/riibu.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/alex.png)

MATCH #8: Unshakable oldbie vs. unshakable oldbie. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/saunders.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/schro.png)

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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MATCH #1: The resurrectee vs. the resurrector. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/lazarus.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/ephesos.png)

MATCH #2: The militant, liberal Israeli girl wielding Demonslayer vs. the militant, liberal Nevada boy with the Scimitar. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/infernal.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/alec.png)

MATCH #3: Cute (or not)ness vs. craft. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/nico.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/diki.png)

MATCH #4: This one goes way back. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/thralni.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/thuryl.png)

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ROUND TWO, PART ONE

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Yama, the Vedic and vaguely panoriental judge of the dead, brings you the next...

JUDGE'S OPINION
Round One, Part Two


MATCH #1: Kama vs. Mama.
This is a very tight match... in more ways than one. WKS has no element on the periodic table, so it won't be much use against him. Likewise, Jewels has demonstrated immunity to carnal-based attacks (if anything, the sutras would be likely to heal her). WKS has BoE scenarios, but Jewels has walkthroughs for them, so that's moot. And although Chuck Norris himself is unlikely to bother thinking about helping WKS, he probably has magical sweat that scalds the eyes of his enemies, or something equally ridiculous; so the Baath party is not a factor.

So that leaves us with Jewels, the mother, and WKS, the boy.

You know how the screen turns red when Kefka kills Leo? That's how this one would end, too. Jewels wins with an unshown maneuver that turns the screen red.

MATCH #2: The rat designer vs. the intelligent designer.
Rats aplenty could probably swarm Ash's scenarios, but they'd be unlikely to find their way through SubTerra levels. Wall Ogres, being the unscripted fakes that they are, are presumably immune to the charms of music, and there are too many of them to take down just with a chainsaw. But, being unscripted, they're also unlikely to be able to find the real Ash Lael when they find o element on the periodic table, so it won't be much use against him. themselves in a level full of mitosis victims with Nathan Ashby in their name.

Smoo, unfortunately, is neither immune to chainsaws nor easily doubled; so Ash Lael wins in a triumphant massacre.

MATCH #3: Out of control RP player vs. out of control RP player.
As already noted, the ice spells and Aura of Flames are likely to cancel out. Other minor abilities, such as the golden gun and pizza shield, are all essentially null in the face of the unpredictable storytelling used by both parties.

Zephyr is likely to summon a demon and it is, indeed, likely to turn on him. But Goldenking's double addiction to skribbane and to canisters make him quite likely to attack the demon and incur its wrath, anyway.

Goldenking, however, has one ability that rises above the chaotic frey; that is his professed worship of the deity of the GIFTS. The GIFTS have shown a repugnant tenacity and the ability to endure even the nonsenical changes to reality incurred in Avernum 4. The favor of the Great Spider God/dess tilts this hallucinatory battle in Goldenking's favor.

MATCH #4: Cute (or not) vs. sexy (or not).
Can you say "heterocentric?" We don't know anything about Nico's sexuality, and as for Marlenny, let's not forget her passionate affair with Dareva. So you can't just shrug off the cuteness and sexiness factors because they're girls.

That said, I don't think Nico wants to be dominated, and Marlenny has shown a clear preference for older, rather than younger, partners. So let's move past the romantic gunk.

Nico has three writing utensils whereas Marlenny only has two kinds of memes in her arsenal to block with, so I hand this match to Nico on grounds of numbers... and stabbing ability.

MATCH #5: Molten bread vs. molten rock.
Believe it or not, I read IFM's moniker as "Internal" every time I saw it until Aran's post pointed the true word out to me. Why, I can't say.

Magma Dragoon, meanwhile, is not actually a dragoon; the original Magma Dragoon does possess ranged attacks, but every last one of his attacks is fire-based. So this match isn't getting very far on physical attacks alone.

Demon muffins are definitely not edible. Are you kidding? They're demons! And Magma, being a Guardian, is vulnerable to being swarmed. (He also doesn't have any armor that I've heard of.) Magma's broken Parry skill should keep him safe for a while, but without good magic, he won't be able to defeat the demon muffins too quickly. So yes, Muffin himself has plenty of time to transform. I, for one, do not doubt Muffin's ability to come up with something ridiculous and overpowered to transform into; and the fact that it makes him crazy will make little difference.

Magma's card, however, features one of the more grievous omissions. His mother! There's no way that a harsh homemaker like Mrs. Dragoon is going to be stymied by a muffin, even a burning muffin. Magma Dragoon wins.

MATCH #6: Magic vs. mystery.
I don't know what Zephyr Tempest was smoking, but not even his made-up creatures are immune to NUKE. Nothing is immune to NUKE. Nothing resists NUKE. Nothing stops NUKE. Even Chaos himself cannot avoid taking, at minimum, 100DMG.

The disadvantage, of course, is that even with a lucky 400DMG, NUKE is easily outperformed by high level melee fighters.

Mysterious Man, however, seems to have put all his skill points into lovin', rather than fighting. So... he gets blown up. Repeatedly. Zeviz wins.

MATCH #7: The professor vs. the third dimension.
This is definitely a tough one. Occam's Razor can cut down many of Niemand's powers, and SoT can oversimplify Niemand's scripted functions to the point of uselessness. But even if the Jade Halberd becomes a two-dimensional line, SoT still has to deal with its ancillary acid damage. At the same time, Niemand is going to have a hard time dodging rocks with only two axes to move on. I don't think trinities will avail SoT much either. In the end, this sophisticated fight comes down to a surprisingly blank mano a mano deathmatch, on which I hand the odds to Student of Trinity for the boon his physics knowledge gives him in throwing rocks elegantly and accurately.

MATCH #8: The invisible poster vs. the lurker.
Whatever powers the Lurker has, he doesn't seem to have the ability to see invisible people. Riibu, on the other hand, can map out every last nook and cranny of the arena until there is nowhere left for the Lurker to lurk. Sooner or later, Riibu will find him and take him down.

Thanks again for the good ideas, and look for round two soon.

P.S. I'm somewhat disappointed that the pictures in this round didn't draw more comments. Charo as a Transformer is pretty revolutionary if you ask me, and Captain N is Captain N.

[ Friday, May 04, 2007 10:22: Message edited by: Yama ]

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No, it doesn't count for anything. The deathmatches are not real! They do not involve your actual computer and they do not involve the actual person sitting in front of it. They involve your fantastic persona as it is perceived by the community. If it's possible to use magic and to be imaginary creatures then it's certainly possible to play a freakin' computer game without a copy. And to get stuck in it. Because while you are without a doubt greatly persistent, you persist single-mindedly against whatever problem you see in front of you (e.g., getting a role in Episode 3) and do not consider less aggressive, indirect solutions (e.g., earning acclaim and camaraderie by making pleasant contributions to the community instead of whining). So I find that you would, in fact, be pre-eminently vulnerable to an impossible scenario.

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Well Nalyd, I apologize for the remark in the judgment. Rest assured that my sources will be bludgeoned... a lot.

The verdict could in theory be overturned as round 2 hasn't been done up yet. That comment really wasn't the basis for the verdict, however, so it will stand as is.

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The frame colors should become mostly clear in round 2 when the remaining 2 frame colors make their appearance.

As for the number colors those have already been guessed: the account number is red if it isn't that person's original account. Purple describes the Silent Assassin's situation.

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Actually, I took images from Slarty vs. Desk first, and only went to google when there was nothing there.

The cards are prepared directly from a database, so I don't have a blank one. Of course you can make your own using these as a template. I fussed around with the layout a bit, but there's nothing special about 'em really.

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Aran -- don't forget the rebooted World of Avernum RP.

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MATCH #5: Molten bread vs. molten rock. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/muffin.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/magma.png)

MATCH #6: Magic vs. mystery. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/zeviz.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/mm.png)

MATCH #7: The professor vs. the third dimension. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/sot.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/niemand.png)

MATCH #8: The invisible poster vs. the lurker. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/riibu.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/lurker.png)

Edit: And once again, I have goofed Student of Trinity's name, and in a poll this time. I'm sure y'all are bright enough to figure that one out..

[ Wednesday, May 02, 2007 04:46: Message edited by: Degei ]

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MATCH #1: Kama vs. Mama. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/wks.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/jewels.png)

MATCH #2: The rat designer vs. the intelligent designer. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/smoo.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/ash.png)

MATCH #3: Out of control RP player vs. out of control RP player. FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/zephyr.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/goldenking.png)

MATCH #4: Cute (or not) vs. sexy (or not). FIGHT!
IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/nico.png) IMAGE(http://minmax.ermarian.net/tourney/marlenny.png)

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ROUND ONE, PART TWO

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I just thought some of you might want to be informed of this potential heretic. in Richard White Games
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"There is something deranged about you.… The excessive concern you have for ferrets is something you should examine with a therapist.… There is something really, really very sad about you.… This excessive concern with little weasels is a sickness.… You should go consult a psychologist.… Your compulsion about—your excessive concern with it is a sign that there is something wrong in your personality.… You have a sickness, and I know it's hard for you to accept that.… You need help." - Rudy Giuliani on a New York City radio show, berating some dude who'd called in to protest the city's policy against ferret ownership.

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Regarding BoA levels -- my understanding (and this comes mainly from TM, given my lack of BoA experience) is that it explicitly can't happen no matter what calls happen in the scripts. If this isn't the case, I have some illithid to flay. Either way, I think Nalyd is now obligated to post a screenshot, so we can ooh and aah or boo and hiss.

Thralni -- nobody can ever fill the Holy of Holies. ;)

Edit: Aran, you just wanted to face Nikki yourself. Admit it :P

Edit 2: I almost forgot. Thuryl, keep the tournament clean, please.

[ Wednesday, May 02, 2007 03:59: Message edited by: Degei ]

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JUDGE'S OPINION
Round One, Part One


Hades Polygedmon, who receives many, welcomed you to the deathmatch. Now Degei, the Fijian judge of the dead, presents you with the first round of results.

Thanks, again, to everyone who contributed the profusion of thoughtful answers! I would mention names, but I really have found something insightful in nearly every reply.

I have a few general remarks. First, the argument that "if player X wins because of ability Y (spray acid/revival/whatever) he is broken and will win the tournament" is baloney. You could say that about any player and any ability. Every ability here can be countered in numerous ways. Imban's and Icshi's abilities did not fall in that category, which is why they were removed from the roster.

Second, I think Dikiyoba was right about the polls. I am going to keep them, because they still produce good information, and are fun, but the decisions can't come directly from the polls. Particularly as there are a few cases here where everyone seems to have overlooked a rather critical piece of information.

1. Infernal vs. Excalibur
Okay, let's clear up the sword business first. First of all... Demonslayer sucks. It's useful against demons... in some of the games in which it appears. In Exile, it sucked due to being two-handed, and in Avernum it was just worse than other special weapons. (Let's not even mention Avernum 4, in which it does less damage than a stick. (Ironically, I think Infernal was actually the one who provided the empirical data on that comparison.)) And Excalibur, the person, isn't a demon.

Excalibur the sword, on the other hand, is never a bad weapon. Demonslayer was wielded by the not-so-impressive Karzoth, while Excalibur was wielded by King Arthur. Actually, forget King Arthur -- Excalibur was the sword wielded by the pre-eminently broken Cidolfas Orlandu. End of discussion right there.

That said, Infernal clearly has more experience fighting. And Infernal has Mossad on her side -- but, as also pointed out, Mossad isn't going to attack a conservative American.

Excalibur, however, apparently isn't conservative. Who knew? He also somehow mistook Infernal for Muffin, which is pretty much a fatal blunder, one that might lead to Infernal killing somebody outside of the tournament. Infernal wins -- no contest. Excalibur does, however, win intellectual honesty points for being the only participant to voice support for his opponent.

2. Delicious Vlish vs. Nioca
As pointed out, the purple bandits are useless since Vlish would just Dominate them. Nioca has Quick Action, but Vlish has terrain-based initiative. Smite is not a particularly cheap spell, and Vlish don't have a slow recharge rate or high energy use rate at all; but neither one has infinite shots. Vlish don't have high HP, but neither do priests.

It's true that Mental Magic is unlikely to be effective against a priest. Slowing mist, on the other hand, should work just as effectively as Smite does. (And it is definitely slowing mist, as Delicious Vlish's conception predates the G4 vlish by years.) And the free ancillary slow effect gives DV the initiative... and then, the Feisty Slap of Pain settles things. If DV does get close to death, it was pointed out that he will go rogue, and as Dikiyoba has shown us, when DV goes rogue he's nearly unstoppable. Vlish wins.

That said, the flatulence issue might change things if Nioca cast, say, Flamestrike. But Nioca just casts Smite... so no dice.

3. Lord Grimm vs. the Silent Assassin
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The Silent Assassin wins very quickly, and he's not going to reveal how.

4. Andraste vs. Thralni
Why, oh why, did nobody bother to look up what a Gisahl vegetable was? Gisahl vegetables (which may or may not be carrot tops; it's unclear) are not for throwing. They summon a (very) distant relative of chickens... Fat Chocobos. (Or at least ancient veggies do, and Thralni was part of the First Expedition, which makes him quite ancient.) Fat Chocobos, while they don't fly, have a rather vicious air-drop attack (which was in fact half the inspiration behind Bovine Thud), and Thralni can fly. Moreover, as a Nephil, he can likely dodge the clubs and the sexy -- as Exile tells us repeatedly, "Nephilim mate for life." Thralni wins.

5. Nalyd vs. Lazarus
First of all... let's clear up the definition of undead. Undead does not mean "not dead." It's just not what it means, and there are decades of fantasy games and stories that will back this up. But let's turn to the truly authoritative source... I speak, of course, of the Encyclopedia Ermariana entry on Undead (coincidentally written mostly by me): "The undead are creatures who have died, but are subsequently re-animated by dark forces in a liminal state."

Clearly, Lazarus is never undead.

Now, Jewels brought up a very good point of order: if Lazarus dies (and presumably, he will at least once) does the match end there? I would say no, regardless of Nalyd's perseverating; there are analogues in boxing (the 10-count) and in RPGs (Auto-Life status activating even when all party members are dead).

Lazarus, however, is not immortal. He is killed with a measure of finality in Dikiyoba's scripts -- by, as it so happens, a mob of skeletons. He just has to be killed and crushed and dismembered repeatedly. Nalyd is persistent enough to do that.

There remains, however, the matter of Lazarus's own offence: putting Nalyd into an impossible scenario. Nalyd's BoA acumen is clearly less than stated, given that it is impossible to surpass level 100, even if you cheat!

...Lazarus wins, and becomes the first person to kill an undead creature with extreme frost.

6. ADoS vs. Randomizer
Spray Acid is pretty slow to take effect, and the two turtles, against which Randomizer has no real defense, cannot be ignored. If ADoS sustains any acid damage, he can use Paint to touch it up. ADoS wins, though he receives a warning from the Judge for his behavior in the audience.

7. Nikki vs. Nemesis
Dainslaifs don't actually require that their creator die before they activate.

Dainslaifs beat mechanical pencils.

...Nemesis wins.

8. Saunders vs. Stew Boy
I'm not sure Stew Boy has been around long enough to be completely out of danger from the turtles, but he has certainly learned how to dodge away from them. However, Student of Trinity has, as usual, fulfilled his own elegance function, and produced an unsimplifiable, uncontradictable solution: Saunders never gets upset. Saunders wins.

Congratulations to the winners. Look for Round One, Part Two to be posted Wednesday morning (EST).

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ADoS, please keep invective out of the tourney. Personal attacks are not OK.

quote:
Originally written by Jewels:

Deathmatch has no save and restore.
Jewels, I love you. As of now, this is the official Spiderweb Deathmatch Tournament motto.

...or maybe it should be called the Permadeathmatch? :P

Edit: I am beginning to write the Judge's opinion for round one, part one. It may take a while. Nalyd vs Lazarus alone I may need to write a dissertation on. I have to admit the response has exceeded even what I expected -- y'all have made some outstanding arguments! Three cheers for you!

[ Tuesday, May 01, 2007 16:41: Message edited by: Polydegmon ]

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