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What's your most embarassing moment? in General
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Profile #32
You don't think so ben? My God.

Spring, uh, haven't you heard about people hurting themselves from doing that?

[ Saturday, August 13, 2005 09:19: Message edited by: stranger ]

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Say your prayers... in General
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Profile #49
Unprecedented? For someone here to admit making a mistake?

Well, that's not a shining compliment (or complement?) to the board's members. Maybe most people here want to be right, to the point that they don't ever back down.

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Profile #124
Isn't he more of a figurehead than a representative?

Or do I not understand what each of these things mean?

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Say your prayers... in General
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Profile #47
OK, you can get married by a justice of the peace at town hall, while everyone present knows you don't believe in God. I'm not denying that this results in marriage.

I don't want to say this again: I was offering my view in response to Jeros' musings on how things would be in a "world w/o religion".

Maybe my view has changed. My view is that if religion never had existed and remains to not exist in the present, that there may be marriage in the above-mentioned athiest way, but the way this cerimony (sp?) was created and evolved to it's present form would be different in this hypothetical world. I thought that marriage (the cerimony and resultant status) was created in a religious context, to validify a relationship. So, I thought that if religion never occurred (sp?), then it would taken longer in the course of history for marriage - not based on a religious context but created because it is more socially desireable for a couple to be legally recognised (with all of the other benefits) - as we know it to be recognised. The loss of the religion factor would have slowed down this process in the evolution of modern humans.

I look back, and this is a change in views (seems I was a bit ignorant, oh well ^o^).

I don't know if I've covered everything here. My aim in this post was to further clarify what I thought, if you still don't understand then it's clearly my fault.

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Say your prayers... in General
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Profile #44
Kel, this is my opinion if religion had never occured, so it is irrelevant to any real-world situation. This view of mine has no meaning in real life. So please don't argue about this using what has happened on Earth, because my arguement is based on the assumption that Earth is at the same time as the present, but at no point in all of the Earth's history was there religion of any kind.

When modern day athiests get married, do they get married in a church, by a priest, using terminology and cerimonies in any way referring to God, and are these cerimonies in any way descended from religious marriage cerimonies?
I'm pretty sure a yes would often occur somewhere along there, but then again this does not concern my arguement, because my arguement is not based on real life.

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Profile #41
I fail to see how anyone can claim that marriage did not exist prior to religion.
- Why not? I didn't really see your point of view from your post.

what is your point?
- My statement: "if religion had never occured, then marriage as we know it would not exist" was as answer to Jeros' question about "world w/o religion". So my statement was about my view about what things would have been like if there is and never was religion.

My view was that if religion had never occured in any form, then marriage as we know it would not exist. It is logical for us to develop life-long partners, and if religion had never occured I think that at the current level of development (mid 2005) there would still be something equivalent to marriage: a union between couple, giving additional rights (parenting, tax breaks etc). My view was that this wouldn't be marriage though, because it is not a union "under God", it is not "Holy matrimony". It is not a spiritual union of two people, it does not involve "what God has joined together"
(Mark 10:9) in the cerimony of marriage. It would be (in my view) a personal commitment between two people: an official recognition of their relationship, with personal benefits (a testimant to the love for the other in the couple), social benifits ("meet my wife, we love each other and got married") and economical benifits (reduced overall tax for married couples).

My view was that the equivalent of marriage would still exist, but it would be different. It would not be a spiritual union anymore, but people would still want to do it because of all the other benefits.

I've got a headache so I won't reread what I've written, so I'll come back tomorrow and see if I've made my view more clear.

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1000 posts! in General
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Profile #17
Well done champ. There have been a few of us do this in past couple of months.

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Favorite car in General
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Profile #11
Can't go wrong with a 911 Turbo. I'll be watching their newest release closely.

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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hey, the oldest sign in here in General
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Profile #5
Rugby news:
The Cape Times, who had seen the players' menus, reported that each member of the Aussie team was asked to nominate a teammate to be "sacrificed in the name of culinary delights" if a plane had to go down. Afterwards, they left their questionnaires lying on the tables at the restaurant.

The instructions state: "You must nominate a player for each dish and how you would prepare them. Ways to present them include on a spit, marinated, skewered, boiled, in dumplings etc. Be creative, But it is your view only. No comparing notes!!!!"

Matt Dunning, the porky prop, fined Aus$500 (US$350) for being out at an inappropriate hour, seemed to make it on to most players' menu.

Wing Lote Tuqiri said he would prepare him for starters. "Plenty enough to go around for a fair size entree, with sweet and sour sauce."

Dunning is also skipper George Gregan's choice of main dish "sweet pork, slowly roasted".

And who would Tuqiri have for desert? Morgan Turinui, who has a podgy centre. "The amount of sweets he puts in, it's got to rub off in his meat somewhere," Tuqiri said.

Fly-half Stephen Larkham would chomp down on Drew Mitchell's nuts for dessert. "Very rare, quite a big feed, never been used."

What would undoubtedly be hard to stomach is Chris "Can Cook" Whitaker's starter. The reserve No.9 would prepare flanker Rocky Elsom's fried foreskin in butter, garlic, chilli and parsley.

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
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The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Human cloning in General
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Profile #35
But it happens in movies all the time

HA ha ha ha...

Marlenny: I really don't think that you understand what makes "identical" twins.

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Our President in General
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Profile #107
That's why we elect parties to govern as they see best, while we have our say only in very important issues.

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Human cloning in General
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Profile #14
quote:
Originally written by Marvin, the paranoid android:

If I was offered to let him be cloned, so I can anjoy him an other 16 years, I would probably say yes.
But ... I really don't think that you understand:
if your cat was cloned for you, you would have a clone of your cat, you wouldn't get your cat back.

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Say your prayers... in General
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Profile #37
quote:
Originally written by Zeviz:

In all communist countries ... religion was forbidden, but most people still got married and had strong families and strict morals.
You seem to think that because religion was forbidden, it stopped. You also seem to think that marriage was not created by religious groups.

My arguement was that if religion had never occured, then marriage as we know it would not exist. Morals and etc would have taken longer to be established.

[ Friday, August 05, 2005 02:26: Message edited by: stranger ]

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I'm tired of the strain and the pain ___ ___ ___ I feel the same, I feel nothing
Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Every Living Thing To Get A Barcode in General
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Profile #10
Thank you Thuryl and Zeviz, you are an oasis of calm as everyone else seems to think that the sky is falling.

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Human cloning in General
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Profile #11
You would also have to live through everyone you know experiencing their lives, and then passing on.
This would only happen if you did cloning and no-one else you cared about did (according to you, Marlenny and Jeros. I think you guys are wrong -I don't believe cloning can be used to live forever).

Zevis said:
1. The clone's personality, attitudes and views will be very different from the original's. These things depend a lot on environment, so the clone will most likely be a completely differnt person.
Uh... a clone IS a completely different person. I don't understand what your point is, are you making one?

Expecting it to be the same will only make the life miserable for both the pet and the owner.
Only people who didn't understand GE and cloning would make this mistake, this is not a reason to abandon GE research in humans.

2. Just like with genetic engineering, it will take a very long time until we fully understand what we are doing.
This is not a reason to abandon GE research in humans. This is only a reason to suspened said research until cloning in other species is up to a certain standard.

On a broader question of genetic engineering of humans, there are many examples of things we could mess up.
This sentance is meaningless. It could be used to describe anything.

I back what Error said, and I think after a time cloned organs will be able to be produced without creating the rest of the person as well, this would relieve you Icshi of your soul concerns.

I back what SoT and Thuryl said.

[ Friday, August 05, 2005 03:00: Message edited by: stranger ]

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I'm tired of the strain and the pain ___ ___ ___ I feel the same, I feel nothing
Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Say your prayers... in General
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Profile #26
This is rather good.

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I'm tired of the strain and the pain ___ ___ ___ I feel the same, I feel nothing
Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Say your prayers... in General
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Profile #21
quote:
Originally written by Jeros:

Slanting? As in changing my opinion when I receive criticism or becoming open minded in an odd sort of way?.
You are right in claiming your open-mindedness takes an odd form.
No, I mean that when you state your opinion, you show so much bias that I wonder if you're cleverly taking the mickey.

quote:
I wonder if there was a world w/o religion...would there be more or less conformity between friends and family?
Wouldn't it be less because: a lot of religions are positive in respect to nurturing relationships, providing morals and offering marriage ceremonies (w/o religion there would be no concept of marriage). Religion is essential in the legal and social framework of (I daresay) most countries, without it there might be problems with morals and therefore social security, causing less conformity between friends and family.

[ Wednesday, August 03, 2005 16:40: Message edited by: stranger ]

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Who's your role model? in General
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Profile #27
Maybe you've heard of Elton Mayo then.

What I meant earlier was you don't offer a level playing field when you state your opinion, you favour one side and are therefore slanted.

[ Wednesday, August 03, 2005 16:18: Message edited by: stranger ]

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Our President in General
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Profile #47
But, are those other things enough of a reason to do what has been done?

The campaign was justified with WMD-fears. They chose to advertise this as the main reason. They must have decided that those other reasons weren't as good.

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Profile #42
Doesn't that explain Afghanistan but not Iraq?

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Say your prayers... in General
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Profile #16
For me, Jeros, the point in question was your slanting in ... ALL of your posts.

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Who's your role model? in General
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Profile #12
Yeah, being yourself is a must.

ICSHI! NO HORDES 4U!

EDIT: *looks below* Well? Explain yourselves!

[ Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:30: Message edited by: stranger ]

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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Who's your role model? in General
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Profile #10
Safer? I don't get it.

If your role models are real, you can interact with them.

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
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The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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We Are Not Alone in General
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Profile #6
The first post mentions getting a map from SW.

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Profile #39
Just bloody difficult to pull-off.

Sometimes I wonder just how much preparation went into the Iraqi campaign. Now the US is stuck there until further notice. Great, now lots more people hate Americans.

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Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything
About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight
We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight
The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight

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