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Give me your opinion, please. in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Depends how short. Babysitting (one town, one dungeon) is really a bit too short. Anything longer than that is fine - I don't think anyone's complained about the length of Zankozzie's Big Mistake or Johnny Favourite. As long as it's big enough to explore the story properly.

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Give me your opinion, please. in Blades of Avernum
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Depends how short. Babysitting (one town, one dungeon) is really a bit too short. Anything longer than that is fine - I don't think anyone's complained about the length of Zankozzie's Big Mistake or Johnny Favourite. As long as it's big enough to explore the story properly.

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Same old story in Blades of Avernum
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Possibly it helps for mage spells, but I found absolutely no difference in the power of Repel Spirit (at the same level, of course) cast by a priest with 8 intelligence and one with 2 intelligence.

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Same old story in Blades of Avernum
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Well, yeah, fair enough. But I was trying to challenge myself, not beat it fairly. :P

Exact stats? Well, obviously they changed a fair bit as I went, but in essence:

4 Nephil priests, all with Fast on Feet and Naural Mage, and with 10 dexterity so I could act before the basic forms of undead (zombies, skeletons, etc). I got more dexterity as I went. They all had enough Priest Spells to cast Repel Spirit, and I obviously got as many levels of that spell as I could.

One of them I focussed on getting Intelligence. One on getting Mage Spells. One on getting more Priest Spells, and one on Tool Use. By the time I finished I could cast Divine Retribution and Fireblast. Also, I discovered that Intelligence is useless. There was no difference between my smart priest and any of the others. So I stopped getting him any more levels in anything. I could have got him more Priest/Mage Spells, but I couldn't afford them for the guys who could learn them, so I just hung on to he skill points in case they came in handy. I did much the same thing with my lockpicker once there wasn't anything he couldn't pick. So I was level 17 when I finished, and two of my PCs had 50+ spare skill points.

Toughest fight was those Spectral Avatars on the bridge. I hardly ever hasted myself (only for the Vahkohs fights), simply because if I didn't bring down a few enemies in the first round, I was usually dead. Blessing, again, hardly ever. I just tried not to get hit.

I'm suprised people are making such a big deal out of this. Tomorrow was a tougher challenge (not winning the fights as much as unlocking the chests to get the stuff I needed to win the fights!).

EDIT: Back in the days of BoE? It's STILL the days of BoE.

My 'episodes', if you mean scenarios, are indeed on the Spiderweb tables. Look for 'barcoorah' in the author's email field. If you're talking about the parodies I did, you can probably unearth them somewhere back in the BoE forum. If not, TM has them up at the Lyceum.

[ Sunday, July 18, 2004 17:01: Message edited by: The Creator ]

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Same old story in Blades of Avernum
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What would be the point if I'd cheated in any way? It was all legitimate, no character editor, no previous scenarios or anything like that.

I used four priests - enough Priest Spells (3 levels) to get Repel Spirit, and a bunch of dexterity so they would get first strike. And I picked my fights carefully early on. I went against Vahkohs.

I have not done ZKR. I haven't even played ZKR in BoA. It bored me enough the first time.

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Same old story in Blades of Avernum
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I'm not saying I'm going to do it. I'm saying I just did it.

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Same old story in Blades of Avernum
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Diplomacy with the Dead, on Torment, level 1 party.

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The optimum party HP in Blades of Exile
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Basically, it depends how good a player you are. If you're very experienced, HP is a waste of skill points - you can get that from going up levels. If you're a beginner, it'll be tough for you to survive early on without a few health points up your sleeve.

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Shadow Of The Stranger in Blades of Exile
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Take the tapestry off the wall and have another look.

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Graphics Comp Rules... in Blades of Avernum
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Well... I would very much like some tough, cool-looking guys in heavy armor. And dialogue pics would be very useful.

Other things I'd like to see: Lots of good warrior graphics that can be used for specific characters (there are a fair few spellcasters already). Maybe some tribal people? And of course, weird and wonderful monsters are always welcome.

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Question: Is there a call to get the PC's name? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Just let the player know what kind of party you're expecting them to play with. They don't have to use it, but if they don't, all problems become their fault. :cool:

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Question: Is there a call to get the PC's name? in Blades of Avernum
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Just let the player know what kind of party you're expecting them to play with. They don't have to use it, but if they don't, all problems become their fault. :cool:

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The everyone-dies ending in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Areni has a sort-of suicide ending as well. Probably your best shot would be to play scenarios that have done it before, see which ones work well and which ones don't, and go from there.

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The everyone-dies ending in Blades of Avernum
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Areni has a sort-of suicide ending as well. Probably your best shot would be to play scenarios that have done it before, see which ones work well and which ones don't, and go from there.

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Hill Runners song in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by The Sober Irishman:

[QB]Well, as someone who's ideology runs with the Hill Runners...[QB]
Not completely, I hope? :P

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Hill Runners song in Blades of Avernum
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As a general warning, people tend to plan far more scenarios than they actually make. If you want to see your music get used, wait till the scenarios are in beta (this is, of course, assuming someone can find a way to implement music). Then the author can send you a copy of the scenario and you can play it to see what kind of feel would be good, plus you know it's going to get released.

EDIT: Just got it to work. It sounds fine, but kinda... inappropriate for the Hill Runners. I'd have expected something much more angry sounding.

[ Monday, July 12, 2004 17:06: Message edited by: The Creator ]

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Announcement- First Annual Blades of Avernum Graphics Competition in Blades of Avernum
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We'll see whe we get there. Usually, it's whoever volunteers.

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Announcement- First Annual Blades of Avernum Graphics Competition in Blades of Avernum
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Put a link up in the header of the other forum. :)

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Here's another level, complete with bugs. in SubTerra
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Out of interest, how many copies of SubTerra have you sold?

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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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Sorry guys, I'm going to have to bail out of this topic. I just don't have time or energy for this at the moment. Also, I've recently learned some things that, well, make these arguments over morality feel a bit irrelevant. And hey, there will always be more debates.

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How do you like the new header graphic? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I think Brett has an unhealthy obsession with Erika. :P

But still, way cool graphic. Put it up at the Louvre or something.

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How do you like the new header graphic? in Blades of Avernum
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I think Brett has an unhealthy obsession with Erika. :P

But still, way cool graphic. Put it up at the Louvre or something.

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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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Man, it's nice to have a discussion without all the anger. IMAGE(smile005.gif)

It's late and I've already written one massive post today, so I'll ask you to wait till tomorrow for a detailed response. And maybe I'll ask a few tricky questions of my own. IMAGE(tongue03.gif)

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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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I really should have seen this coming - way too many points and questions to respond to effectively. I'll limit myself to Thuryl's question, since he directed it specifically to me and it's a darn good one. Hopefully, I'll answer other points at the same time.

It does indeed become difficult to seperate morality from religion for me, but I'll do the best I can. First of all, I believe there is a perfect, ideal way for the world to work and for people to relate to each other. I know this sounds a lot like what I was saying before, but allow me to explain further.

I'm not saying "This is the ideal way for things to be, because this the way God Says, so do it or burn in hell!" I'm saying "This is the ideal way for things to be... because it works best." Of course, I believe that God intended for things to be this way and his plan is perfect, and that he wants the best for us, etc, but I hope the distinction is clear. It's not "You should Do This, because God Says!", it's "Doing This brings us closer to this ideal." As you can see, my religion and worldview are inextricably interwoven.

I'm going to hit 'pause' right there, because that's about as far as I can go talking about some vague, insubstantial "ideal". For those who are interested to know what my image of a perfect world is:

Marriage would obviously be exclusively between one man and one woman. Any difficulties they had they would work through together, they would help each other and build each other up, and they would form a partnership greater than the sum of its parts (if you'll pardon the cliche).

Men would be able to have close friendships with each other. While, as everyone here knows, I'm firmly against homosexuality, there is a kind of companionship and, for lack of a better word, love that can exist between men that is a very good thing. In our society, anything beyond having a beer with a mate tends to get branded as homosexuality (not that there's anything wrong with that...), so we're largely unable to relate to other guys on more than a superficial level without becoming involved in the homosexual lifestyle. Maybe a craving for this kind of intimacy is what draws some people to homosexuality. I dunno.

As an example, I'd point out David and Jonathan. These guys cared for each other and looked out for each other - but they certainly weren't gay. Yet this kind of relationship gets claimed by homosexuals as 'theirs'. Or another example, Frodo and Sam in Lord of the Rings. Tolkein was a devout, traditional Catholic - he'd hardly make his heroes gay. The relationship between them is strong and pure and completely non-sexual, yet I've lost count of the number of gay jokes I've heard made about them. I think heterosexual relationships like these are a very good thing, but are pretty much unknown these days because of homosexuality that goes along with them.

Hmm... that last one was pretty long. Oh well, never mind. Where was I?

Oh yes, ideal world. Young men would be encouraged to respect women rather than simply try to use them for a bit of sexual gratification. I doubt many would argue with this point, and we do hear a fair bit about how we should treat women, but young men (like, well, me) are getting a completely different message through our eyes. We see Beyonce and Britney baring their bodies for us on TV every weekend, teasing and arousing us. Every newsagents we walk past has a dozen prominently displayed magazines featuring scantily or not-at-all-clad women on the cover. There's as much internet porn as you could possibly want only a mouse-click away, and we get in-boxes choked with invitations to check them out. We're being trained to see women as sex objects. So, when we see the classmate with the loose shirt neck, why not 'accidentally' knock her pencil onto the floor? If we get a girl to go out with us, how interested are we really in her personality? I'd venture that the vast majority of guys would be more interested in trying to get a hand under her bra.

And of course, this doesn't send a good message to the girls. The one who put out are popular, while the ones who don't get dumped. How rare is it for a girl to sleep with her boyfriend, not because she wants to, but because she's afraid he'll break up with her if she doesn't? No girl should ever feel she has to trade her body to feel loved. As men, we should be protecting and caring for the women in our lives, not trying to exploit them.

I think I'll stop there. While I could go on for ages, you should by now have a fair idea of what I consider ideal. If you really want more insight into the traditional Christian view of morality and suchlike (can't imagine why - I've probably bored everyone to sleep by now), I'd recommend Focus on the Family. I'm quite a fan of Dr. James Dobson, and I agree strongly with most of his points of view. Only he's been doing this sort of thing for decades, so he's much better at it than me!

Anyhow, my problem with homosexuality is that it's a perversion of things that are naturally good. I could argue that it's commonly associated with various psychological problems (suicide, most child molesters are homosexual, etc), and you might argue back that this is simply because of the pressure and stigma society places on them, or that my claims are ridiculous and have no backing, and we'd go back and forth and not get anywhere, so I'll leave that one alone.

I suppose the ultimate question is, what's wrong with a homosexual couple, in love, faithful to each other for their entire lives (rather than the wildly promiscious (sp?) lifestyles that many gays have)? Why are they less right than a heterosexual couple in the same situation?

My answer is simply pretty much what I've saying right through this ridiculously over-extended post. It isn't the way our bodies and minds were intended to be, and it isn't the best way for relationships to be. That said, it's not THAT bad (in the above hypothetical case, anyway) - I'd probably consider pornography to be worse, and it's certainly not as bad as something like abortion, which really gets my blood boiling... but that's a whole other massive can of worms. Generally, I'd guess homosexuality is a symptom of other problems - but, again, I hardly feel qualified to argue the issue at all. I don't even know any gays (don't think so, anyway), and I certainly don't have any inclinations that way myself. There are plenty of people who know the issue much better than I do. I've just been trying to present the traditional Christian viewpoint here, more so others can understand where we're coming from than to convince anyone (which we all know is never going to happen).

I don't really think I expressed any of that very well, but I've spent enough time on this one post. If you're unclear on any points, let me know and I'll do my best to answer.

EDIT: Oops, didn't mean to quote Thuryl's post.

[ Thursday, July 08, 2004 00:23: Message edited by: The Creator ]

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Religion, Homosexuality, the Usual in General
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I'm not trying to dodge anything. I'm perfectly willing to answer any question raised in the spirit of inquiry and discussion - trying to understand the opposing point of view rather than throw mud at it.

And please lay off the personal insults. You'll end up getting yourself banned.

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