Do you think there is a Hell?
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BoE Posse
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written Sunday, April 3 2005 15:11
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Baptism is not required Overwhelming. Remember the thief on the cross next to Jesus? -------------------- Rate my scenarios! Areni Revenge To Live in Fear Deadly Goblins Ugantan Nightmare Isle of Boredom Posts: 1423 | Registered: Sunday, October 7 2001 07:00 |
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written Sunday, April 3 2005 16:41
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quote:I believe you don't have to belong to a church just to "be a part of your religion". Many churches are run by corrupt people anyways. -------------------- You can take my Windows XP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 394 | Registered: Saturday, November 20 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, April 3 2005 19:51
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quote:He has threatened to murder my family. (though my sacrasm detector tells me he's kidding) Where I live, this is a criminally punishable offense. -------------------- "Even the worst Terror from Hell can be transformed to a testimony from Heaven!" - Rev. David Wood 6\23\05 "Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can, in all the places you can, at all the times you can, to all the people you can, as long as you ever can." - John Wesley Posts: 1001 | Registered: Tuesday, August 19 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Sunday, April 3 2005 20:07
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quote:Nobody even knows where you live. Sarcasm or not such a threat is empty. -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, April 3 2005 20:52
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quote:I just asked because you and ben, who are obviously both conservative Christians, seem to have different ideas on a few issues, ie baptism. -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Monday, April 4 2005 00:22
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quote:Only after Jesus' death we need baptism. Before that, there wqas lamb sacrificing. Jesus was the final sacrifice. Since then, christian stoped sheep sacrifices. Besides, it's not me who says baptism is necessary, it's the Bible. By baptism we confess our faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and testify of our death to sin and of our purpose to walk in newness of life. Thus we acknowledge Christ as Lord and Saviour, become His people, and are received as members by His church [emphasis added to make you note that by church i'm not refering to a specific denomination]. Baptism is a symbol of our union with Christ, the forgiveness of our sins, and our reception of the Holy Spirit. It is by immersion in water and is contingent on an affirmation of faith in Jesus and evidence of repentance of sin. It follows instruction in the Holy Scriptures and acceptance of their teachings. (Rom. 6:1-6; Col. 2:12, 13; Acts 16:30-33; 22:16; 2:38; Matt. 28:19, 20.) -------------------- Visit the Blades of Avernum Center and the Beta Testing Center -------------- "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9 Posts: 483 | Registered: Tuesday, June 29 2004 07:00 |
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written Monday, April 4 2005 03:56
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furries burn in the hayell ps tldr -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, April 4 2005 06:07
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quote:John 3:16, Ephesians 1:7, Rom 8, Acts 16:31: quote:In none of the verses you provided does it say that it is absolutely necessary to become baptized. Read them a few times to yourself, the only thing that some of the mention is that is is necessary to believe in Jesus to become saved. Though baptism is a good idea, it is optional and you don't need to do it to gain salvation. Baptism is just a sign in a way, a public testimony that you've changed your life and are willing to use it to serve God. Get baptized if you can, but generally, you don't have to. Conservative Russian Baptist, voted yes for hell. Edit: Voted yes for hell...now that I think about it, it sounds kind of awkward. [ Monday, April 04, 2005 06:08: Message edited by: RC ] -------------------- Austrian Alex - Reality Corp. Posts: 1307 | Registered: Tuesday, May 7 2002 07:00 |
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written Monday, April 4 2005 14:21
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If you think there's a heaven, might as well be an opposing side. -------------------- You can take my Windows XP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 394 | Registered: Saturday, November 20 2004 08:00 |
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written Monday, April 4 2005 14:29
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yes -------------------- Avernum is as addictive as skribbane!!! Withdrawal symptoms are harsh so I just keep playing. Free skribbane at Wal-mart Posts: 296 | Registered: Monday, September 22 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, April 5 2005 15:57
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Ben, Overwhelming, do you believe that a mojority of those who answered the poll should go to hell? A majority of people said that they don't believe in hell and that they arn't Christians. -------------------- Most Important Questions: Why does one sock go missing? What is the purpose of meaning? What is the purpose of girls? What happened to the other one? Posts: 154 | Registered: Saturday, February 26 2005 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, April 5 2005 15:58
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You shouldn't go to a place you don't believe in. -------------------- You can take my Windows XP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 394 | Registered: Saturday, November 20 2004 08:00 |
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Master
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written Tuesday, April 5 2005 16:00
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I'm a Nazarene, since some people are intersted. And yeah, Creator had a point. How are you supposed to baptize a dying person who just heard about Jesus and wants to sincerely accept him. Is this person just too late and they'll go to hell no matter what? No. -------------------- -ben4808 For those who love to spam: CSM Forums RIFQ Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, April 5 2005 16:04
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Give proof there actually is a god. Everything has been scientifically proven. And I mean everything. -------------------- You can take my Windows XP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 394 | Registered: Saturday, November 20 2004 08:00 |
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BoE Posse
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 01:15
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Incorrect. The reason for gravity has not been proven. It has not been proven whether alien life exists. Also if you were to read a science magazine or book, you would find that the things that are 'proven' keep changing. This is known as the advance of science. -------------------- Rate my scenarios! Areni Revenge To Live in Fear Deadly Goblins Ugantan Nightmare Isle of Boredom Posts: 1423 | Registered: Sunday, October 7 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 01:54
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Uh, Ash, we're pretty sure -'s a troll. -------------------- My BoE Page Bandwagons are fun! Roots Hunted! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 06:51
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But let's not pretend that gravity cannot be observed and replicated- If I hold an anvil above your head, you won't want to stand there- you will move out of the way because you know what will happen. And it will. On the other side of the spectrum, gods cannot be observed, proven or disproven. It's like arguing that miniature unicorns exist in the center of the planet- we can't observe and/or replicate it, so why bother saying it anyway? -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Master
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 11:08
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How else did the universe come to be? Someone had to create it. [ Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:09: Message edited by: 1001011001000 ] -------------------- -ben4808 For those who love to spam: CSM Forums RIFQ Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 11:11
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Where did God come from? Someone had to have created him. -------------------- The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) Famous Last Words - A local pop-punk band They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 12:54
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You don't know he exists. So as I said before, what about ghosts? -------------------- You can take my Windows XP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 394 | Registered: Saturday, November 20 2004 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 13:00
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I believe in ghosts and spirits, but for someone to believe in such things they have to believe in an afterlife in the first place. Some people claim to see ghosts, and in that respect some claim to see God and aliens. Edit: Clarifying term “Afterlife”… Any form of existence postmortem. Not necessarily traditional versions of heaven or hell. [ Wednesday, April 06, 2005 13:14: Message edited by: Dolphin ] -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 13:04
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Well, I just believe they "hang around". nothing else. [ Wednesday, April 06, 2005 13:16: Message edited by: Alec II ] -------------------- You can take my Windows XP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 394 | Registered: Saturday, November 20 2004 08:00 |
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The Establishment
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 13:52
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quote:Nothing can be scientfically proven, per se, because science does not claim to have a final authority on anything. Everything is open to question. Science only finds evidence to support a hypothesis. The correct question is this: What evidence is there that there is a God? -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power!! Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 14:08
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for one, the only evidence that there is a god, or some other sort of spiritual entity, is that many people believe in it (or should i say Him?) and the only proof against gods existance is that there are many people who don't believe in it the fact is that knowing the anwser to this question is out of our reach. anyway, being religious or not makes very little difference in ones daily life. as long as religion does not cloud your judgement(evolution theory anyone?), there really isn't anything good or bad to it, including a physical hell. Posts: 38 | Registered: Sunday, April 3 2005 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, April 6 2005 14:27
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quote:That has got to be the stupidest reason ever. Lots of people used to believe in the Greco-Roman pantheon- does that mean that Zeus sits on Olympus? quote:It's less that there's a "proof" against god, and more that a god (or gods) is not a phenomenon that can be observed or duplicated. Sorta like the iron unicorns at the center of the planet. That is how I justify atheism- Maybes sure as hell don't get you very far in science. I don't see how theology should differ. quote:Right. So why it's an issue is beyond me. quote:Agreed. -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
