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Originally written by Stillness:

No one seems to want to address these cases of discrimination. Who will cry for the polysexuals? Thuryl? Is your heart big enough to include a father and his daughter that have special feelings for each other? Maybe they want to adopt a baby together or have the other privileges on Salmon’s list extended to them. Maybe when you meet a person you think is an alright guy, you could vote him into your “marital group.”

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Originally written by Stillness:

I just want to creep back out to say, I didn’t mean “design” in the sense that the Almighty God made it. I have heard naturalist evolutionist use this same language. And my argument wasn’t that homosexuality is wrong since the organs are shaped as they are, but that the heterosexual union is special in that it uses them according in the way implied by the shape, whereas the other pairings (or groupings since bisexuality came up) do not. So yes, I do disagree.

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Originally written by Fernication:

That is why I think the fairest route is to leave marriage as a community decision (obviously, this would include religious communities) and attach all the government benefits to something more equitable.

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Originally written by Stillness:

But everybody won’t do the same, Thuryl. Some people are not willing to lie and cheat the system to get their way and to stop their neighbor from getting his. For example, the Constitution forbids restricting or enforcing religion. So when some people aren’t getting their way they equivocate and say that there is a conflict of church and state when there isn’t any, so their opponent doesn’t even have the constitutional right get their beliefs enshrined in legislation. That is the sentiment of many on this issue.

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Originally written by Stillness:

Thuryl, I presented multiple scenarios and asked if you should be able to try to legislate your view and if someone with the opposite view should be able to as well.

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I mean I don’t think disallowing same-sex marriage is equivalent to racial discrimination. I think denying housing, classifying it as a mental illness, and military policy is.

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Originally written by Stillness:

And thanks for dodging the meat of my question and giving a fluff, coockie-cutter answer.

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Those of my faith are generally apolitical. I think my comments are being misread.

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Originally written by Stillness:

Marriage is a divine arrangement predating human government.

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If yes, what would be the purpose of marriage in your ideal society?

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Originally written by Kelandon:

You'll note that the fundamental argument against it applies equally well to polyandry, even though it was designed for polygyny.

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Originally written by Elastikon:

Yes, that's a good point. Bad Thuryl! Don't troll the Christians, they're high in cholesterol.

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so even if every man marries a woman, not every woman will be able to get married unless some of them marry each other.

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Unless a group of people aren't monogamous.

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Originally written by Stillness:

My point is that saying same sex marriage is not allowed is not the same as having white-only water fountains. The former is not discriminatory as it applies to everyone.

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What you’re calling discrimination would apply to gender designated restrooms and interspecies marriage as well. Why shouldn’t I be able to walk in on naked girls at the community center or marry a plant?

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Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

So, suicide doesn't get the media attention it merits?
Even a politician's rather famous suicide got rather short air time. The guy with the gun is only a victim through his own actions. That doesn't make him a victim. It makes him a ruiner.

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Originally written by The Ratt:

Would this breach the CoC as advertising?

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Originally written by Drew:

Finally, Excal, if you prefer deer, then aren't you the one who's unclean?

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Originally written by Funkadelic:

I can eat a 12" on my own if I've not had anything to eat that day, but I then don't eat for a month.

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Originally written by Arancaytar:

What kind of pizzas do they have in America to make this a feat?

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Originally written by Excalibur:

3. Does the recent increase in spam content irk you?

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Originally written by The Iffy Muffin who...does stuff...:

I hope it isn't sanders who locks this topic, he insults people at the end for not much of a reason.

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Originally written by LakiRa@:

Since when are French only Europians?There are others too.

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Unless you count the French colonies (which afaik are all independent now?) there are no French people who are not Europeans.

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