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Originally written by Everything Remains To Be Done:


Incidentally, is there anyone here who doubts that the missing sixth class, the Magic strong Combat weak one, would undoubtedly be the best class by a mile unless its essence score was unexpectedly nerfed?

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Originally written by Alchemy:

It's always a little sad when people can't tell that others are making fun of them.

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Originally written by Kuber:

You're all wimps. I once played through Geneforge 3 without even talking to anyone, nor attacking anything which used a total number of pixels greater than 50. I was using a Shaper, but I absolutely refused to train in Intelligence. Oh, and I had needles jammed into my "f" key, so I had to click the fight button manually every time.

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Originally written by The_Other_Guy:

Technically you could use an editor or trainer and save before every canister you use, then load and adjust the stat with the editor instead. This wouldn't make any difference in GF1, but I did this my 2nd time through GF3 in order to avoid doing stupid stuff without choosing to as a result of my canister abuse. The first time through I played as an agent and thus skipped shaping canisters, but still had negative effects later in the game. You know I'm actually playing through GF1 again myself and basically using everyone. First I joined the obeyers to get their stuff (I had high enough leadership to avoid any quests for any sects), then joined the awakened and gained their benefits, afterwards I made my way to Kazg and joined the takers and I'm still with them until I kill Trajkov and use the GF then I'll switch back to either Awakened or Obeyers. I would definately choose the Awakened except for my concern for the fate of the Sholai although don't they get killed between GF1 & GF2? (when the island is retaken or whatever)

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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Yeah, actually I sort of remembered that, but wanted to suggest eathing them anyway. But I still sort of also remember having leftover fibers. Are there maybe three in the game? There is definitely one artifact you can make two of, after making all the others.

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Originally written by GoodCnaister:

Then try to kill Nazar (SE Icy End) and his army of creations. The ur-glaahks will slay them easily. Or try the Beneri Eo Gates (I think that was what it was called) and take on 15 ur glaahks, battle betas, war serviles (the ones that hit over 100 and slow/terror/charm/acid)and drayks.

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That is true(however I was playing on normal). For magic resistant creations I had two Drayks to back up my gazers.

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Rots start at 38 (max) and they consistently hit 120+, up to 260 with QA, so I don't see what you're saying about 70s and 130s.

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They can? I must have tested them on something with armour....

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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Unfortunately, the only thing you can do with a second set of fibers is eat them for a health boost.

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Originally written by Chitrach Exterminator:

I don't remember what the base levels are but the actual maximum levels are higher. You can get +3 or more from Create X skill for everything except Drakons (in G3), and you can get +18 from X Shaping, if you were insane enough to pump it to 29. This is not a very useful point, but there it is :)

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Originally written by Leftover Sauerkraut:

I remember rotogroths were horrible. The most they could hit was 70 damage a punch, maybe 130 with QA. I didn't like the drakons, but I had low fire shaping. The gazers I loved. They could hit over 200 damage a shot and 3 of them hasted could take out anything in the game.

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Originally written by Dikiyoba:

You mean the enemy named Danette's Spirit? :P

Dikiyoba.

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Originally written by Zeviz:

While I don't normally play on torment, it seems pretty obvious that 0-intelligence creations are usually worse for any level. If you can't control your creations, you loose all tactical advantage you have as a smart human against a dumb AI and have to rely purely on firepower. The gain in firepower from not buying two points of intelligence is almost never enough to compensate for loss of tactical advantage. Yes, you can do well with 0-intelligence creations. However, in most cases you'd do even better with creations you can control.

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Originally written by GoodCanisters:

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To get your quotes to work, make sure the closing tag (word "/QUOTE" in brackets) is at the end of the text you are quoting.

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I used it, and then attempted that Shaper Crypt.

There were no surviving users of the Geneforge on Sucia Isle.

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Oh I remember the good times... Got rid of Trajkov and made myself godlike with the same action. Nothing could oppose you, you could be a melee shaper if you wanted, a shaping agent, a magic guardian. Still, you were unstoppable. The Shaper Crypts could be made easy.

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Actually, I meant that, after obliterating Trajkov and Goatcheese (I can never remember his name), I wound up killed in the shaper crypt.

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