Did you use the Geneforge? (spoilers for GF 1)

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AuthorTopic: Did you use the Geneforge? (spoilers for GF 1)
Warrior
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Self explanatory; in GF 1, did you use the Geneforge? Destroy it? I've always liked the Geneforge. A 64 point bonus is just too good, good enough to sacrifice humanity and become insane for.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Monday, December 4 2006 08:00
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I used it, and then attempted that Shaper Crypt.

There were no surviving users of the Geneforge on Sucia Isle.

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Posts: 2686 | Registered: Friday, September 8 2006 07:00
Warrior
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quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

I used it, and then attempted that Shaper Crypt.

There were no surviving users of the Geneforge on Sucia Isle.

Oh I remember the good times... Got rid of Trajkov and made myself godlike with the same action. Nothing could oppose you, you could be a melee shaper if you wanted, a shaping agent, a magic guardian. Still, you were unstoppable. The Shaper Crypts could be made easy.

EDIT: But again, at torment, you never know when you may be in range of the pylons or get mobbed by the spawners, so its best to not get too arrogant.

[ Monday, December 04, 2006 21:50: Message edited by: GoodCanisters ]
Posts: 107 | Registered: Monday, December 4 2006 08:00
Councilor
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Let's see... normally, I destroy it. There's been a few times where I helped Trajkov, though.

Once, Dikiyoba's character used the Geneforge and then Dikiyoba had the character's fyora attack him to see what would happen. He died instantly.

[ Monday, December 04, 2006 21:23: Message edited by: Dikiyoba ]
Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00
Warrior
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Dikiyoba, I sure admire your self restraint in not being immediately consumed by greed for power, and using the Geneforge instantly. I myself once considered destroying it without using it, thinking that I might be in the favor of the Shaper Council. But I thought, if I just saved in took a look at the Geneforge, it wouldn't hurt, would it? So thats how I instantly died, with the broken shaper gloves...

My quest then lead me to Goesttech (sp?) to reclaim the real gloves. In my canister filled rage, I burned him and his creations down. I retrieved the gloves, went back into the Geneforge, killed Trajkov (with the broken "fixed" gloves), used the Geneforge. Afterwards, I promptly destroyed it. The Geneforge is surely an artifact that is worth a great debate. True power at the cost of humanity. I could not resist the power. Thats why Dikiyoba, I must again congratulate you for your self control. :)

A side note, unrelated. How many living shapers are at Sucia after you arrive? I would think there are more than 3. Yourself, and Goesttech are the obvious two. But if I remember correctly, Danette was also a Guardian, if I remember correctly. She may have also had a Guardian escort.

[ Monday, December 04, 2006 22:00: Message edited by: GoodCanisters ]
Posts: 107 | Registered: Monday, December 4 2006 08:00
Law Bringer
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I used the Geneforge and destroyed it, left it there, let Trajkov use, and destroyed it without using it, I really wanted to see some of the different endings for being an Obeyer,

The Geneforge makes you god-like, but you still can get killed if you let them swarm you or do something else stupid. I didn't feel like killing everyone since I was getting almost no experience for the effort.
Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00
Electric Sheep One
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Profile #6
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

I didn't feel like killing everyone since I was getting almost no experience for the effort.
Saved from pyschopathy by munchkinism.

[ Monday, December 04, 2006 22:35: Message edited by: Student of Trinity ]

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Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00
Canned
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I can clearly reply that we would we be all mad but until a certain extent because in some cricumstantes a man will trun to killing,I mean just because some one is really mad know if he is mad? So the use of the geneforge even for the best reasons would caused in short run war and devastation folowed by famine and plagues that kill millions but in the long run peapole would use the geneforge to help each other, true peace would last. And any way i would use it but what about you!

[ Wednesday, December 06, 2006 02:26: Message edited by: opon mars ]

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Posts: 312 | Registered: Sunday, November 26 2006 08:00
Warrior
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My character was hopped-up on canisters (this was GF1; he didn't know better), but happily he resisted the geneforge temptation and blew the d****d thing up.

My later characters became anti-canister partisans - they don't much love the shapers or the rebels either, but they are dead set against people making themselves powerful and insane in the canister/geneforge way, and eventually kill everybody who does that. So far, that has meant that they ended up siding with the Shapers.

It'd be nice if a later game let you adjust the Geneforge so that you could "un-blue" those people and save them...

Two of the answers fit me, since I let Trajkov kill himself and then destroyed the Geneforge without using it (I had already killed the boy who gave me the booby-trapped gloves).
Posts: 63 | Registered: Tuesday, July 4 2006 07:00
Infiltrator
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Profile #9
I rarely, if ever, use the Geneforge these days; I normally can get by just fine without it. Destroying the Geneforge is a given when I play, too. I prefer just to use canisters.

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Posts: 558 | Registered: Friday, September 15 2006 07:00
Shaper
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quote:
Originally written by GoodCanisters:

quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

I used it, and then attempted that Shaper Crypt.

There were no surviving users of the Geneforge on Sucia Isle.

Oh I remember the good times... Got rid of Trajkov and made myself godlike with the same action. Nothing could oppose you, you could be a melee shaper if you wanted, a shaping agent, a magic guardian. Still, you were unstoppable. The Shaper Crypts could be made easy.

Actually, I meant that, after obliterating Trajkov and Goatcheese (I can never remember his name), I wound up killed in the shaper crypt.

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Posts: 2686 | Registered: Friday, September 8 2006 07:00
Agent
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That happened to me as a Guardian. As a Shaper, however, I barely broke a sweat wiping out the crypt.

Edit: forgot to say, having used the geneforge first on both occasions.

[ Tuesday, December 05, 2006 08:38: Message edited by: Micawber. ]

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Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00
Warrior
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quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

quote:
Originally written by GoodCanisters:

quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

I used it, and then attempted that Shaper Crypt.

There were no surviving users of the Geneforge on Sucia Isle.

Oh I remember the good times... Got rid of Trajkov and made myself godlike with the same action. Nothing could oppose you, you could be a melee shaper if you wanted, a shaping agent, a magic guardian. Still, you were unstoppable. The Shaper Crypts could be made easy.

Actually, I meant that, after obliterating Trajkov and Goatcheese (I can never remember his name), I wound up killed in the shaper crypt.

Ah I see, but even in torment, shaper crypt becomes a lot easier after you use the Geneforge, right? As a shaper you could mass energize 5+ cryodrayks, as an agent, you would hit 200+ with every orb and be hasted for a likely 3 hits per turn. Guardians would easily kill anything in a single blow, but they are probably the most prone to death if he loses too much AP or take too much a turn. But its quite possible to die in the shaper crypt after using the Geneforge. Just level a few times and watch your HP/SP/Essence multiply.
Posts: 107 | Registered: Monday, December 4 2006 08:00
Guardian
Member # 5360
Profile #13
-X- has gone all ways. Usually, he destroys the Geneforge, uses no canisters, obliterates Trajkov and Goettsch, kills the Takers, awakened, leaves the Shaper Crypt undefiled, and kills every rogue possible.

Shapers all the way, baby.

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Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00
Lifecrafter
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No Contest.

Kahhk Trajkov, kill all on island. But leave the serviles west of the wastes live. So you can sell everybody else's stuff. End of story.

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