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Scenario Grouping Game! in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
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You got mine right, Bain.

And as for yours - Scenarios involving time?

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AmnesiaDileciaThe Empire's New GroveExpress Delivery
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how i get in the shapers crypt? And what is in there? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
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I'm more interesting in what 'diddling' meant.

But for the help you received, you could have chosen a number of friendlier words or phrases to express your gratitude. 'Thank you', 'Thanks again', 'You suck'... You get the picture. :P

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House Unshaperlike Activities Committee in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
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Actually, blessing spells may also have some innate connection to shaping as well. They all require essence, and several of them could technically considered temporary augmentations. And lets not forget the spell so aptly named Augmentation. If that isn't some form of self shaping, I don't know what is.

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #54
quote:
Originally written by Robinator:

But they are just as effective without calling people 'juvenile' or deliberately making condescensions to a person.
My apologies. I genuinely thought you had some sort of malicious intent when you made this thread. I was mistaken. Furthermore, I mis-interpreted a lot of what you were saying as insults toward the board and it's members in general (no pun intended).

Oh, and the Fatman gender mix-up? That's an excellent argument for good syntax.

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1000th in General
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #19
True, but it's also good bait to draw in necromancers looking to revive topics for no good reason. Also, someone at a later date may have something important to add to that topic.

[ Friday, December 15, 2006 19:59: Message edited by: Nioca ]

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
Shaper
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What? I have a beef with anyone who decides to randomly slander other people, especially when said person doesn't have any factual evidence to back it up.

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House Unshaperlike Activities Committee in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
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Actually, that brings up an interesting point. The Shapers are strictly forbidden from shaping themselves, yet their healing magic is basically a form of shaping. So when a shaper heals himself/herself, he/she is basically shaping himself/herself. Is something a little off with their rules, or is this a simple oversight by their council (aka, Jeff)?

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House Unshaperlike Activities Committee in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
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Also, I think it was mentioned somewhere in GF2 that the healing magic in the Geneforge world is really just a subsidiary of shaping itself.

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #48
quote:
Originally written by Robinator is a Beefcake:

quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

I don't think this is an attempt to continue the discussion. Rather, I think this thread is more about Robinator making a juvenile attempt to play hero and vigilante, and also is a desperate bid for attention.
This is more-or-less exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm calling it as I see it. You blindly came to Synergy's defense, pretending that he's completely innocent in this, and insulted the rest of us in the process, and then laid the blame for both low board activity and Synergy taking a beating on us, including members that took no part in that debate.

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In a nutshell, all I have been arguing is that Spiderweb could do with being a little more open and tolerant. Evidently not everyone feels the same way. 'Unresponsive bashing' is probably a better term in this case than 'flame war'.
This is the main problem with your argument. You've tunneled in on two or three cases out of over a thousand topics, and then selectively removed the parts that were inconvenient to your argument. Then you proclaimed it as fact, even though it was clearly an erroneous assumption.

Furthermore, if you post your beliefs here, there's going to be someone who disagrees. Everyone has their own beliefs, and if someone comes along and proposes a different set of beliefs that challenge your own (or even if they don't), you have the right to speak up about it. It's happened to Tullegolar, me, Synergy, Garrison, Stew Boy, Delicious Vlish, you, so on and so forth. Are you saying that if someone posts some form of philosophy here, the rest of us have to shut up? Because it won't happen, and I wouldn't want it to happen either.

And even if Synergy was guilt-free in this, your little escapade here basically shoved him right back into the line of fire! Instead of letting the topic rest, as it should have, you dredged it back up and further aggravated the parties involved in this travesty. That topic was locked for a reason, one which you casually ignored.

EDIT: Thought of a little more that I wanted to say.

[ Friday, December 15, 2006 17:55: Message edited by: Nioca ]

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Stuck in Avernum 4
Shaper
Member # 7472
Profile Homepage #1
That's because Starrus gives you that quest, and because there's a quest in between Vahnatai Sighting and Rescue Vahnatai. You're supposed to fetch a crystal box north of Fort Emerald.

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The Beginning Was The End in General
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #13
Third-person speak, probably. By the way, I like you. :)

*glances at karma rating* Other people are warming up to you too.

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Magus of Cattlon in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
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You would think so. Yet surprisingly, there is not. However, you can also toss a golem head down there.

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Physics Background in General
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #14
Seconded. Except that I might occasionally insert a note here and there if I think an error is present. However, I generally stay away from topics I know little about.

EDIT: By the way, Randomizer, did you know you have a typo in the topic title? I was afraid you were trying to restart the debate.

[ Friday, December 15, 2006 10:05: Message edited by: Nioca ]

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
Shaper
Member # 7472
Profile Homepage #19
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

No, the topic getting locked ended that discussion. (Or apparently didn't, given this thread.)
I don't think this is an attempt to continue the discussion. Rather, I think this thread is more about Robinator making a juvenile attempt to play hero and vigilante, and also is a desperate bid for attention.

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Serviles and Canisters...??? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #6
It might also have been because the canisters on Sucia Isle were sitting there for 150 years. So it wouldn't be much of a surprise if they became a little volatile over the years.

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House Unshaperlike Activities Committee in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7472
Profile Homepage #18
quote:
Originally written by Kyrek:

Spells. Spells can be deadly when you have enough skill. I'm sure many of you have played a game where you didn't create a single creation. You will no matter what have to kill a shaper or something stronger eventually. And its not like all those elite warriors you see are completely inept at fighting. With each shaping book found there is one less in the world soon. It will take a long time, but eventually you will stop it.
Except that someone with shaping skills has both power and numbers. Except for god-like characters, anyone will eventually get over-run if they get swarmed with creations.

Also, you're assuming that everyone will just hand over every piece of shaping history they find. The likelihood of that happening is the same as Venezuela launching a Vlish to Valorim. It's not going to happen.

[ Thursday, December 14, 2006 18:17: Message edited by: Nioca ]

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I Have A Beef With You All in General
Shaper
Member # 7472
Profile Homepage #10
quote:
Originally written by Robinator is a Beefcake:

We've all seen the figures and all of the statistics: post counts are down. The old Spiderweb Boards don't have the same edge they used to and the community has gotten, according to the general consensus, rather board (durka durka) with the seeming lack of inactivity.

I thought it was a pity too when I saw the decreased post counts and everyone seeming to be dismayed by then, remembering all the good, active times we used to have. I attributed it to a simple phasing out of interest as people got increasingly involved in different gaming systems or reading books, eating healthy, and jogging, or whatever.

Check the latest statisics. I'm happy with the latest post counts.

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And then I noticed the amount of persecution on the Boards. Good lord, we're a lot of prudes. Half the posts in General alone seem to have been edited, and usually just because someone made a typo.
Okay, what's wrong with fixing a typo? What's wrong with making our posts a little more aesthetically pleasing, and behaving like we give a... darn.

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Loads of times, when there's a thoughtful discussion topic brought up (what's wrong with quantum mechanics?) people focus much less on listening and a whole lot more on criticizing.
This 'criticizing' is merely another person inserting their opinion or belief. That's why it's called a public forum, not a lecture hall.

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It looks pretty rediculous in the middle of an argument to see someone resort to criticizing the syntax or diction of another person's post when it really has no bearing on the actual meaning of what they're saying. We've gotten so pedantic. We're totally putting the 'anal' in 'analysis'. Why not hold an actual discussion, and not a flame war?
Do you even know what a flamewar is? I'd explain it, but Wikipedia pretty much sums it up with this article.

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It makes the accusers look petty, and discourages any sort of creative thought, which is exactly what we, theoretically, need. Look at Synergy, who got so banged up because of his views on physics that he edited his contributions out of the topic simply to avoid being embarrassed. The nice thing about stuff that hasn't been proven is that it has no right or wrong.
That's like saying 'all dogs have fleas' when you have the only flea covered dog in the neighborhood.

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We're gamers. The vast majority of gamers don't use perfect spelling and punctuation online. It has pretty low bearing on what they're like in real life.
You're right. A lot of us are not in possession of perfect spelling, punctuation, or grammar. But I don't think it's asking that much to make your posts understandable, or at least intelligible.

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Is writing like 99% of younger Internet users any reason to denounce their thoughts and opinions? It's like thinking someone's a bonehead for having a Southern accent.
No. But that doesn't mean you can't try to write like a human being, instead of some sort of illiterate cyborg.

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Look at courtney's last topic. If that had been written in good English by an established member, would it have been closed? (Fatman's is still open, and has the exact same subject; she even talked about how much she likes Jeff's games) Give everyone a chance.
Hold it! Courtney's topic was very different from Fatman's topic. Fatman was recently released from his ban, and was announcing his return. Courtney's topic was a jumbled nonsensical mess that had nothing to do with spelling or grammar.

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I'm making a stream-of-consciousness argument here, but the long and short of it is that it makes us look really stupid, prudish, and unwelcoming when anyone without perfect writing conventions, who doesn't use ideal English, and who has a unique viewpoint has their topics locked and are themselves ultimately ignored.
Tullegolar has some very different viewpoints on things, and yet only a couple of his topics have been locked, none of which were for his opinions or philosophy. There have been several members that don't have the best grasp on english, and they are treated just fine by most people. So I honestly don't see how this is accurate.

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So let's get off our elitist high horses, n let ne1 who wantz 2 join n talk, ppl (it's not like it's not English; it sounds exactly the same when you pronounce it).
The only person I currently see on a high horse around here is you. You're making a lot of false accusations that slander the members of the Spiderweb Forums for no good reason.

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House Unshaperlike Activities Committee in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7472
Profile Homepage #14
Kyrek, I agree that shaping has caused some horrible atrocities, and that creations are treated unfairly. However, trying to undo centuries of work and knowledge would be nearly impossible. Even if it seemed successful at first, there would be some shred of research hidden away somewhere, be it a shaping book or a canister or even a Geneforge, and then a whole new, far worse process would begin. Instead of having a powerful weapon in the hands of a bunch of egotistical self-righteous idiots, you have a powerful weapon in the hands of what could be a raving lunatic. And when that happens, nobody would be able to stand in his or her way, because no one else would have the means to fight back! Think about it. Would the shapers be winning the war if they couldn't shape? Of course not! Shaping is a very dangerous art, even more powerful than standard magic, and should be treated accordingly, but it shouldn't be shunned for just it's negative aspects.

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Scenario Grouping Game! in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
Member # 7472
Profile Homepage #43
Dikiyoba is excellent at this. However, I thought the last scenario in Bain's group was Nepharim are Everywhere?

New one.

The Renegade Canopy Xerch'de had Rebels attack tehGRICH of Nepharim which Hunted Lost Tunnels of The Nephil's Defense of Farmhands which located a Ballad Retribution of Assault found in Valorim, the home of the Black Horse of Redwall which the Grey Moon of Ignorance rose above to shine light on Dranhelm Borderlands, home of Ragnorak Chicken Plague of tehGRICH2 Stranger's.

I know I'm over the 15 scenario limit (there's 24), but this is a good group.

[ Thursday, December 14, 2006 15:18: Message edited by: Nioca ]

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House Unshaperlike Activities Committee in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #9
I actually agree with Tullegolar on this one. Banning shaping does not solve the problem. Look at Drayks. They're a banned (barred, to be technical) creation, and now look at the trouble resulting from it. The shapers might have had an even larger advantage if the Drayks had joined them instead, or even were just indifferent. Instead, since the shapers were so arrogant, thinking that barring Drayks would make the problem go away, they now have a new menace to deal with: Drakons.

No matter how deeply the knowledge of shaping is buried, it will surface again. Sucia Isle pretty much proves that once you cross that threshold, there's no turning back.

The ending of Geneforge 1 summed it up quite nicely: You cannot unring a bell.

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quote:
Originally written by Nikki:

And isn't Healing magic a priest-thing? It doesn't NEED essence to do it.
Um... Have you played any of the Geneforge games? All healing spells require at least a small amount of essence. In fact, there's only one spell I can think of that uses no essence, and that's Firebolt.

[ Thursday, December 14, 2006 09:27: Message edited by: Nioca ]

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Stuck in Exodus in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #24
Did you rest first? Often times, you need to rest in your tent in the camp before you can get your next mission.

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1000th in General
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #1
There are more than 1000 topics for General. Or, rather, there used to be more than 1000 topics. However, the forums must be purged now and then, so they only appear in Arancaytar's archives.

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Posts: 2686 | Registered: Friday, September 8 2006 07:00
Scenario Grouping Game! in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #38
It has become obvious that I am not good at this. However, I'm going to take one more shot at this:

Retribution of the Apology was considered both A Small and Large Rebellion for the Forest of Beginning Areni when A Gathering Storm faced Wanderers which caused Aftershocks when it destroyed Avalon of Ashen with the Abyss Arachnid and the Valorim Cabbages of which Milk originated via Little Missions.

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Scenario Grouping Game! in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #36
quote:
Originally written by Jewel:

quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

Jewel - Scenarios that require god parties?
You probably haven't even played any of the scenarios in my list...

Guilty. I only have BoA.

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Does yours have something to do with the undead?
Hmm, that's weird. Most of those scenario do have some connection to undead.

Sadly, that's not it.

EDIT: Dikiyoba has 2 of 2.

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In the Cave of Dying Things, Lord Putidus is Babysitting Dallerdin's Rats. In A Perfect Forest, Chapman's Roses are growing Good on Point B.
*Tries to restrain laughter*
Short BoA Scenarios.

EDIT 3: Renegade Putidus has a Nine Emerald Run of Xerch'de Cresents.

[ Wednesday, December 13, 2006 19:49: Message edited by: Nioca ]

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Scenario Grouping Game! in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #33
Jewel - Scenarios that require god parties?

I'll try one more. I sincerely hoping to make a truly difficult one. This one's strictly BoA, because I can't tell how many of the BoE scenarios meet the criteria, and I'd probably go over the 15 limit.

The Za-Khazi Exodus of Bahssikava led to a Valley of Dying Diplomacy Roses with A Large Cresent.

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