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Humans Only in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #49
Lame. "Oh, Tullegolar, I can't answer that question, there are too many facets, wah." Give me a break, I asked for comments on human nature. You've nothing to say about the subject? Are humans guided by society, greed, emotions, empathy? Nothing? I was expecting more interesting answers and viewpoints. Most of you would rather avoid saying anything, it seems.

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Humans Only in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #12
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Lenar Labs:
Define your terms.
I purposely didn't do this because I wanted to see a variety of definitions rather than have the whole discussion hinge on me like it always does. If you'd rather have it that way, though, my ego would be pleased to oblige.

Good or evil was a stupid question. The terms are relative. I'll just talk about human nature in general. Don't worry, you should still be able to find some way to disagree with me.

Humans are born knowing only self-interest. Children will lie, cheat and steal until they are programed to know that these things are wrong. Once they realize that punishment is possible, they continue to seek their own self-interest by following society's rules to avoid it.

Eventually, they will have the chance to be compassionate. Compassion is motivated by self-interest as well. By doing something to benefit society, you benefit yourself indirectly, and then there's the ego boost, my favorite. Being compassionate can give you many things: loyalty, respect, money... love even? Everyone wants to be loved.

I'm sure at this point you can't wait to point out a famous campassionate person who gave up everything to help others. Such people are out there, but they are the exception, not the rule. Such people must see much suffering in the world before they can overcome their human nature. If self-interest is defined as evil and compassion as good, I would say people are born evil and most remain so their entire life.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
Humans Only in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #0
We've been discusing lots of different political and economic theories lately. Most such theories operate under a large set of assumptions, most of them having to do with human nature.

So, humans: naturally good or naturally evil?

Granted, the answers will probably amount to little more than opinions, but I am curious. What do you think of our species?

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Episode 3: A New Game in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #249
quote:
Originally written by Andraste:

Call for cease posting!
Never! Post 'til the bitter end! No mercy! Post 'til the last man standing!

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The SpiderWebWorld in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #49
Not sure how this post happened.

[ Wednesday, November 01, 2006 22:18: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
Wealth. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #134
Here's the problem. The corporation leaders you are talking about aren't greedy enough! If they really wanted more money, rather than give themselves pay raises, they would expand. They would use the extra money to hire more people and extend their reach. It's when people get to a point in wealth where they lose ambition that the problems arise. Now I am finally begining to see why my system might not work. I assumed people would be greedier.

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Click here for Scorpius' corn-dog in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #8
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Sure. Why not.

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Personal Flair in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #9
I'd say three as well. However, I'm basing that on what they are discussing rather than how they are saying it.

My advice: your people are too polite. Also they all use similar rhetoric. Make some people mean, some with poor speech, some who just say strange things for no reason. Here's an example: look at these boards, see all the different ways people can express themselves? Have some eccentrics, but also don't try to give every townsperson a personality. Even though that seems to be what a lot of people expect, it would make the important people less special. Sometimes you just need bland townspeople.

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Xeon, The Beginning in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #38
quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

Am I the only one who thinks Tullegolar was being sarcastic?
They can dish it out but they can't take it.

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Episode 3: A New Game in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #231
Any reason why Dikiyoba's site would not be loading on my computer? I never had a problem before, but I have been unable to access it for several days now.

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Wealth. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #128
quote:
Originally written by The High King's Logomach:

What, exactly, makes economic gain the most important goal for all government?
Are you talking to me? I made it very clear that the economy is not a concern for the government at all. Protection is. I also think your forgetting that this is an economic discussion, not one on how to live a happy life. As for the word 'strength,' I don't use that word, I use the word strong. I use it so that I don't have to keep defining someone who has what it takes to be successful in every single one of my posts.

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Should Geneforge have been a pure sci-fi game? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #8
Could have gone either way, really. I really am curious as to how Jeff would do a futuristic society as opposed to the traditional 'olde' ones. But hey, he's good at what he does.
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Detriot Dan:
magic based society stumbling on ways to manipulate DNA with magic makes it more original
Says it all really. Not sure how you could have made the game better than this.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
Wealth. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #126
Nope, that wasn't it.

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Ghandi? You must be joking! in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #16
Economic: 2.38
Social: 0.46

Socially I'm very centrist because while I beleive the government should sometimes have extra power for the people's protection, I do not beleive they have the right to rule on morality. It's perfectly fine follow a fanatical religion, be gay and tell the government how much they suck... but we will tap your phones.

The same goes for the economic score. Companies can go to extrmes to make money, even as far as exploiting the weak, but when it begins to physically hurt people (through coercion or damaging the environment) then the government has a right to put a stop to it.

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That Literary Dog... in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #18
Wishbone? Bah. Reading Rainbow all the way!

Just take a look!
It's in a book!
Reading Rainboooooow!

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Wealth. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #124
Trickle Down: I think I said this before but no one responded. What is the argument against trickle down? I hear people whine about how it doesn't work all the time but I have not yet seen the argument for why. Please enlighten me.

Einstein: I was under the impression this guy did well for himself moneywise. Is this wrong?

Happiness: You can be weak and still be happy. I defined weak and strong in terms of being successful economically. Someone can flip burgers their whole life and still be the happiest person in the world. Obviously, if your happy no matter what then suddenly this whole argument becomes inconsequential.

The Mystic, how to become a millionaire: I noticed you said spending less than you make is a good way to become a millionaire. Really, most obscenely rich people borrow lots of extra cash to achieve this. This is why one day you'll hear about Donald Trump being bankrupt and the next day he'll be back on top. It's all about taking educated risks (intelligence and ambition).

Moniker: It was Halloween, I wanted to go as something scary. Anyone get it?

Edit: I used a triple negative... wow.

[ Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:27: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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The SpiderWebWorld in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #12
quote:
Originally written by The Worst Man Ever:

And it sums up perfectly how damn proud you are of being that damn backwards.
In Tullegolite Poland, backwards is damn proud of being that damn you!

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
The SpiderWebWorld in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #8
quote:
Originally written by --Squad:

Tully might be better described as historical Poland
Ouch. Somehow that simple statement manages to be more insulting than the various crude insults being thrown at me elsewhere.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
Wealth. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #110
Ephesos: Handing out jobs is good, I agree. But why have the government give out jobs when you could just cut taxes so that businesses can hire more people themselves? New Deal legislation was government regulation to fix the economy after government regulation had already screwed up the economy with tariffs. It was a special situation.

Drew: I suppose if it is someone's ambition to not make money (this is what your saying right?) then I guess you are correct, I can't say they are weak if they don't make the money. I am not so sure what you accomplished by proving this but whatever.

*i: You keep telling me scientists are treated unfairly under capitalism. This may be true, but if you can not name something better then you can't keep saying capitalism is bad. The insurance analogy was interesting, but, like insurance, it wasn't the most convincing. Insurance companies screw people over all the time.

Zevis: Your right, I failed to acknowledge that scientists could be charismatic; they can be. Also, you right, just as *i was, when he said basic research was necessary for the developments that actually make the money in the future. However, my question still stands: how are basic researchers supposed to be compensated? Should a scientist that goes his entire life discovering nothing get as much as someone who makes a breakthrough (how it is today with government grants) or should the ones that make breakthroughs be rewarded for what their discoveries may yield in the future (how it works nowhere, and I'm not sure how this would be implemented)?

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
Wealth. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #96
Alec: Are you trying to say that since government spending in defense is corrupt, it doesn't count? Are you going somewhere with any of this?

Kelandon: You miserably misquoted me. You took the first quote out of context and in the second one you left out my explanation.

*i: I suppose I did say basic research was lame. I regret it, we were talking about something else at the time, and that statement was ignorant. I can't say I agree with you about offering incentives for scientists, however. They get paid well enough, as you said. Odds are most will not make a major breakthrough. Why reward something so fickle?

Free Market: Do you think scientists would be better of under socialism?

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
Wealth. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #92
quote:
Alec:
And no, most government research isn't primarily in national security.
Well, unless the vast majority of all other is scientific research, then you are mistaken. Yes, this graph is from 2001, but I'll wager that defense spending has probably gone up a little since then.

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Alec:
it's a market that would probably have me paying your meager wages
May the best man win.

[ Monday, October 30, 2006 22:34: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
Wealth. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #88
Oh, all this editing...

[ Monday, October 30, 2006 22:11: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
Wealth. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #87
Alec, I totally forgot about you! Sorry. So, what is your argument exactly? Anti-killing? Yeah, I already said killing was bad. Pro-democracy? Well, this is an economic discussion, so I never really said what the government type was. Sure, why not democracy? I did say the government exists to protect the people, is that not serving them? If it fails to do so, I said the people form a new one. I also already said everyone deserved equal opportunity. What exactly is it you are trying to prove? What is your argument and where does it disagree with my own? I seriously am having trouble finding it in all those blind insults.

MBA: You can have one of these and still end up a lowly bean counter if you lack the ambition and charisma. My father has many such people working for him.

Finally, if you really are smarter and more charismatic than me, then so be it. I have no qualm about submitting to someone who has proven themselves to me. So far though... your not doing a very good job.

Randomizer:
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Me:
What exactly do you expect me to do about this? Should we have paid Einstein and those others for the future developments that would have been built upon their discoveries? Should we pay them retroactively? I don't understand what I am supposed to say to this. You had the same comments, *i. My question is, how exactly are we supposed to compensate these scientists for something that we won't even know will be useful until decades later? What does this have to do with the economy anyway?


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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
Wealth. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #82
No. But thanks for asking instead of assuming what I meant like people usually do. I asked how we were supposed to reward scientists for ideas that may or may not be useful for years after their deaths. This is not something that the economy can compensate for on it's own, with or without government regulation.

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Xeon, The Beginning in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #19
quote:
Originally written by XxX:

These 2 sacred people were called {end of post}
Am I the only one burning with curiosity over this cliff hanger?

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