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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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true he has a relaince on a yet built and easy to sabatoge canister factory.

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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thats only becuase thier enemies don't know the meaning of divide and conquer.

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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well their loyalty well only last as long as you control a monpoly on canisters. If one (or more)of your more ambitous generals was to capture/make his own canister factory he could make his canisters and no longer need you for them and his troops would remain loyal to him for same reason you have currenlty control your empire. He will use his canisters to boost his power and the power of his troops in hopes to seize your cansiter factory and your postion. Then you have a rival and now instead of vanquishing the shapers with your full power you now have to invest most of your power to killing a very powerful rival. Even if you do beat him that confilict will weaken you to the point that the shapers could crush you with ease. You may have the loyalty of your empire but that loyalty is very fragile and break under a buff of wind.

[ Sunday, December 31, 2006 08:31: Message edited by: Lord Safey ]

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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You don't seek perfection you seek power perfection is merely addition to your power and power should never be sought for the sake of power. If I was to use canisters it would be to try to surive and try to bring back a lasting peace .I have a goal and my ambitions have a limit and will cease when my goals have been fufilled. You and your army seek power for the sake and always hunger of it. You lead an army of infiviuals who do nothing if it doesn't benfit themself. They all have a hunger for power that can't be filled.My goals are acheivable albiet hard but once their acheive I am happy. Your lust for power will never be filled your goals can never be acheives for you seek to do the impossible, that is to statisify your lust for power. You may defeat me but I know you can never truley succed. As soon as you can no longer feed your armies lust for power your armies will fracture and your lust will cause you to betray everything you worked for. I beleive that day will come a lot sooner then you think.

[ Saturday, December 30, 2006 22:16: Message edited by: Lord Safey ]

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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true humans can't fight wars if we don't exist.

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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well all I have to say about canister users is your argoance is my greatest weapon. Each person has their weakness and with fortunaly with canister users that is always arrogance. It is never good to have such a preidcitable flaw.

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no all warmongers want to rid them selfs of their humanity completly and they will never be able to completly do it. Even if it is overwhelminly small.

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Saddam Hussein's Execution in General
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I might be worried about makeing him a matyr if the extriemst didn't already have so many. If George W Bush step on the small toe of my left foot the extriemst would make it into a matyr. The would have made him a matyr regardless.

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Saddam Hussein's Execution in General
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I think overall it doesn't really matter. It will create a brief surge in violence. It also give one less thing for the remanets of the Bath party to rally behind. Those that support he war still support he war and those who don't support the war still don't support the war.In the end I don't think it matters much becuase the Arabs they are far more concerned with vengance then closeure or justice.

[ Saturday, December 30, 2006 09:05: Message edited by: Lord Safey ]

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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Intresting how you will never be able to compelty drive it out of you. Humans and other senients are prone to make mistakes. Since canisters are made by humans canisters are infected with humanity. Same goes for the geneforge. You may be able to dilute the humanity out of you but never drive it from you. While canisters and the geneforge may rule the realm the of the shapers I doubt they rule this realm with the same impunity. We already have our own super weapons.

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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in the long term time always seems to be on the side of the shapers. In geneforge one the takers are trying to build up as much power as possible before the shapers find out about them. In Geneforge 2 every faction in the moutians was rushing to build up a defence against the shapers. In geneforge 3 the rebillion is in a rush to build the geneforge before the shapers discover it. (From what I know of it) the rebillion is desperate to destroy the shapers before they fall apart at the seems. Shapers always seem to have time as their ally and powerfull ally it is.

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The main problem I have with canisters is not the fact they make you ruthless. Its the fact they make you inceridably arrogant. It is a very serious character flaw that makes you over look threats and can hammpers your ability to work in fruitful organiztions and ruin powerful allainces. Which is why I would choose to use canisters in moderation should they truley exist. Almost every person who went all out on canisters failed because they under estimiated their oppents and over estiamted their own abilities.

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trenches and bunkers? in Geneforge Series
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Bunkers serve the same purpose as castles. The also are a more secertive version of forts. So shapers might be very attrative to bunkers. I'm lost on trenchs mabey it was to counter some type of uber turret.

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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They did try to pick the best but in the end I think they lacked training. Even in Geneforge one you still get a lot of training. I think that it shows that pure training vs pure agumenation and pure training wins out. However agumenation in addition to training is very powerful but you must not sarifice training at the sake of agumenation. This was the Barzites weakness.

[ Thursday, December 28, 2006 21:57: Message edited by: Lord Safey ]

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be kind of funny if some one made a cannister that gave you an immune system so strong that it prevent new canisters from modifying your DNA. I make hundreds of them and leave them in places canister slurpers will find. Then wait for the angry hoard of mad canister uber shapers.

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I wasn'ts saying their are weak beacues of their weak geneforges I'm saying their weak inspite of thier genforges.

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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From what you say I think the orginal geneforge was a test of shaper might made at the height of shaper power dureing peace time with no resource sucking war. These other geneforges were made in hideing with much more limited resources of course their not going to give you the god like power of the orginal. Super weapons are not easy to make. Cheap mans version are going to be powerd down.

[ Thursday, December 28, 2006 19:41: Message edited by: Lord Safey ]

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So the rebels have two geneforges and they still can't win? They must really be pathetic.

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When useing geneforge or canisters. Their are proably 3 different set of problems you have worry about. First is the shock to your body. With no protection your body is likely to die from shock from use of the geneforge. 2nd is your body immunes system trying to reject to changes could cuase some intresting problems. 3rd is the slow but sure accumaltion of mistakes. Statsitcally each use will introduce a minor mistake and after you use a few hundred/thousand. The mistakes become more pronuced. I like to point out the teacher who joined the rebillion and the shaper who started useing them without realizeing it.

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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Techincally any two organisims that can reproduce and produce off sping that can produce offsprings your the same spieices. The problem with canisters and the geneforge is that it modifys the DNA. The DNA is extermly complex about 100 million genes.These genes combine with each other to make other genes. Modifying your gense with out makeing a mistake is logisitcally impossible. The more you modify your self the more mistakes you expose your self too.

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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@Emperor Tullegolar What is your definition of humanity? Cause by my defintion they decrease and removes your humanity.

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trenches and bunkers? in Geneforge Series
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trenchs where made with advent of the 50 caliber maching gun becuase their simply was no other effective protection. Unless they have an equivlent thier is no reason for them.

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If canisters were real... in Geneforge Series
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do you think if you used enough canisters would it be the same as useing the geneforge? How many would you need to use?

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Whats up with the Rebellion? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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While playing Geneforge 3. I noticed that rebellion is made up of several different groups. First are the feircly independent serviles I could see hints that they don't completly like the idea of the all controling drakons ordering them around. Second is the gazers and eyebeasts who are all of in lala land with their own hive mind. Not makeing them easy to work with. The dryaks are fiercly indenpedent, power hungry, prideful, arroogant and jealous of drakons. Drakons have all the character flaws of dryaks 10 fold. They are jealous of each other, which proably isn't good when you need to work with each other, and they beleive they are better then everyone else and everyone who is not a drakon should sever their every whim. I just get the impression that the rebellion might have some slight internal problems. My question is this refelected in geneforge 4 and do the shapers take the rebellions's tendency to fracture into account for when planing their strageties. If I was a shaper I would definatly try to encourge hostilites between the differnt species of the rebillion cause then I no longer need to destroy them they will do that themselfs.

[ Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:13: Message edited by: Lord Safey ]

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canisters in Geneforge Series
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huh?

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