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Loyalist or Rebel? in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #16
My preferences:
G1: Make my own empire after using (then destroying) the Geneforge. Those small minded fools could never understand my greatness...
G2: Become a Servant. Everyone else was not very nice to me...
G3: Join the loyalists. The rebels are approaching evil if not already consumed by it.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #124
Waylander:
You see the Shapers as the Nazi's of WWII and the Drakons as the Allies... I could not more strongly disagree. The Nazi's rose to such power because the Allies let them (look in a history book, WWII was not that hard to prevent). I see the Drakons as the Japanese in WWII. The Japanese saw what had happened to China when Western Imperialism came and was like, "Holy @#$@! We see how it is... You must either conquer or be conquered!" The Drakons are even worse than this. I'm not going to say that the Shapers are America, but they are deffinatly closer to being America than the Drakons are to being the Allies.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #59
Umm, no effence Savage Ed, but one of your story examples if contrary to your arguement (not to say that you are wrong or right, just pointing this out). Have you actually read the book Frankenstien? Frankenstein's monster only became the way he was, because no one accepted him and all cried out that he was a monster. He actually started out innocent and nice, but it was because others treated him like, and expected him to act like, a monster, he became one.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Geneforge 2 canister question - how much is too much? in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #12
The only comfortable way to complete the game on Torment without canisters and without the augmentation of the crazy shaper guy is if you are a Servant.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #50
I'm starting to skim the long ones.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Geneforge 2 canister question - how much is too much? in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #1
You basically have to be a canister chugger if you work for the Awakened, I guess it is possible to not be, but that makes it MUCH more complicated. You have already passed the point of no return with the canisters, after the alteration made by the Awakened.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #46
quote:
Originally written by Your ad could be here- contact me.:

quote:
Originally written by Retlaw May:

Finally someone recognizes what I have been saying and arguing. It seems to me that whenever someone does not agree with another and the other makes a thought provoking arguement, THEY IGNORE IT.
Look, MOST SERVILES ARE DUMB AND THEY LIKE (NAY EVEN LOVE) SERVING THEIR MASTERS AND DOING THEIR JOBS. These serviles don't care that the others are happy, they shove everything down the throat of others. Remember that in G3 there were 2 occasions where the intellegent serviles ruined the lives of 2 perfectly happy and loyal serviles who just became angry and confused in the meeting that occured between them.
I already addressed this issue. I did not ignore it. Both of you ignored my post.

I don't believe you did... You only adressed a little point of it and I think we may have somewhat of a misunderstanding here. This is what you responded with:
quote:
Originally written by Retlaw May:

What gives the intellegent serviles the right to destroy the happiness of so many of their own kind?
Why would every single servile have to be freed if only some want to be? Those that want to be free should be free, and those who want to serve the Shapers can serve the Shapers.

If they are simply raised from birth to think of themselves as equals, then they will never want to be anything but free. So the intelligent ones can be free and can train their children to want to be free, and the unintelligent ones can keep having children who think of themselves as being unworthy.
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Well what I'm saying is that the intellegent serviles DON'T see why those who want to serve the Shapers should be able to. They have a misdirected view that all serviles should be free even if they don't want to be and it makes them miserable.
P.S. This is all for thought provoktion and Shapers probably should have treated serviles somewhat better in the first place because none of this would have happened if they did.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #37
quote:
Originally written by MagmaDragoon:

I'm starting to think that the promblem cannot be solved...

Smart serviles are smart enough to understand what freedom is, but the dumb ones can't even understand what freedom is, because they are... dumb.

Then, if we could shape a smart servile from a dumb one, he surely want freedom, because he can think about/what is it, though when he was dumb he only wanted to work, and the prespective of freedom scares him.

Sure, we can make all serviles free, but the dumb ones will never be happy...

So, what the solution can be?

Finally someone recognizes what I have been saying and arguing. It seems to me that whenever someone does not agree with another and the other makes a thought provoking arguement, THEY IGNORE IT.
Look, MOST SERVILES ARE DUMB AND THEY LIKE (NAY EVEN LOVE) SERVING THEIR MASTERS AND DOING THEIR JOBS. These serviles don't care that the others are happy, they shove everything down the throat of others. Remember that in G3 there were 2 occasions where the intellegent serviles ruined the lives of 2 perfectly happy and loyal serviles who just became angry and confused in the meeting that occured between them.

[ Friday, July 28, 2006 19:17: Message edited by: Retlaw May ]

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #26
What gives the intellegent serviles the right to destroy the happiness of so many of their own kind?

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #23
I'm just talking from a Shapers view point here:
If you give serviles equal rights, then there was no point in their existance and creation. Shapers made these things to be happy to work for shapers. So in some ways, it would be inhumane to suddenly say, "Hey you have equal rights now, so go away somewhere to live your lives because we might as well use humans now." How do you think the majority of serviles would react. I think that they would beg their masters to let them stay and keep living as they had.
When you speak of serviles, you speak as if the majority are for the rebels and are intellegent. I got the feeling that the majority were the dumb ones that liked working. You may argue that even the dumb ones don't like it in the dangerous places like on Gull Island, but I bet that very few actually work in places such as that.
So, I feel that the intellegent serviles are acting much like a minority trying to impose themselves and their lifestyles over the majority. They don't care if the other serviles want it, they just will force feed it to them anyways!

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Memories......... in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #8
Gee, I didn't get into Spiderweb Software until the time that BoE came out... So I'm not new to Spiderweb, but I'm not an oldie... What does that make me?

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #19
I don't agree with you that serviles are just modified humans. They are "humaniods" but does that mean that they are really the same as humans? I would sooner say that they were made from chimpanzees or something. Also, there is no evidence that Shapers have or ever will, create a human from essence. Shapers are quite strict on the research that they allow their people to do; just look at how they forbid necromancy. Even though shaping a human from essance is in theory possible (after all they are just shaping dna) there is no proof that that created human would truly be "human".

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
G4 Highlight Predictor in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #11
First of all:
You will all be crushed for your words against the just and mighty Shaper Empire!
Second:
I killed Learned Darian in G3 (and probably in G1 too since I used the Geneforge and killed everything that moved).
Lastly:
Does anyone know if this is the last Geneforge or not? I don't particularly want to see the series end, but I'm getting tired of vague and inconclusive endings that usually don't fit what I did in the previous games. If I took over the world in the first place, none of this would have happened!

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Oozing Blade in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #6
I never had a long time creation with my guardian... I did make a few as one battle shields though ;)

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
hidden messages in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #14
quote:
Originally written by Northern Watchcar:

'Haven't the poor creatures had it enough?'
They have only had enough when I will it so! I am their master and they will do as I bid no matter what it is because I created them!

[ Sunday, July 23, 2006 21:47: Message edited by: Retlaw May ]

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Effects of the Geneforge in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #7
When I used the Geneforge I destroyed all friendly towns :P

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Effects of the Geneforge in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #0
I was just wondering what people thought of the changes brought on by the Geneforge in Geneforge 1. I, personally, felt disappointed by the little changes. I felt I should have been able to sink large islands with a flick of the wrist, the way everyone was talking about it.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Children in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #33
I was a little disappointed with the mild changes brought on by the Geneforge 1. I mean, the way they were talking about it, I thought I would be a god who could practically destroy a chain of islands with the flick of his/her wrist.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
hidden messages in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #5
I've done that with three different types of creations in G1 and on the third time it scolded me and told me I should be using my time more wisely... :(

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Children in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #25
In denial?

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Geneforge series board traffic: no long tail? in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #3
Though Avernum 1-3 has had even less traffic to the point that I'm wondering if we have gone through everything of interest to say.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
G3 ? - Skill Points and Item in Geneforge Series
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #3
The trap only does like 1-4 damage though... I find that a base mechanics skill of 6-8 is enough and from there you carry the infiltrator set with you at all times by the end of the game (which I admit can be a pain with a character of little strength).

[ Thursday, July 20, 2006 07:14: Message edited by: Retlaw May ]

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
The World Cup 2006 in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #9
I think that Ghana should have won just because when they made it to the second round, they declared it a national holiday. I wonder what would have happened if by some freak chance they won the World cup?

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Where are the Geneforgers? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #32
While mentioning a lack of posts, I've noticed that the MacGamer's forums are quite limited now a'days.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00
Where are the Geneforgers? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
Profile #31
Geneforge is not just for the newly involved youngsters of Spiderweb. It is just a different style and type of game and, therefore, really compare the two without personal byass as to what type of games you like.

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"After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one."
- Cato the Elder (234-149 BC)

"The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process."
-Kripke

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
-Friedich Nietzche
Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00

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