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Find Terella Venia !! in Avernum 4
Shaper
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Alorael's first recollection is correct.

Happy backtracking!

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Why You Suck in General
Shaper
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Profile #112
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

See above about not wasting other people's time. IM me.
Not this time. It may be your estimation that people working out differences is a waste of time for others to witness. but I often feel much otherwise. Here's your original statement in response to my thoughts contributed to this thread:

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I've been trying not to point out the circularity in everything that you're saying
If you wish to clarify or modify your intent in starting with this, please do so publicly, as you made this statement publicly.

How would anyone else perceive someone's intentions, with this being his opening line to your thoughts on a topic?

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[ Thursday, February 22, 2007 23:45: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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Why You Suck in General
Shaper
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Profile #109
Kel, you misunderstand. I'm not angry at you. Your pinning "circular reasoning" on me in your opening comment felt very much like an outright attempt to insult, knowing the great value you place on reasoning. If you didn't intend to immediately put me off, I can think of many ways you might have worded it more graciously and made an inquiry for clarification before pronouncing my logic worthless.

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[Insert Dumb Joke Here] in General
Shaper
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Profile #62
Who can tell me what the following represents?

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PhD

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Why You Suck in General
Shaper
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Profile #107
I'm getting better. I've ignored most of what he wrote here. Maybe next time I'll have finally worked up to ignoring all of it.

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EDIT: Note that I was ignoring Kel's dialog in this thread until he saw fit to comment disparagingly on the logic behind everything I was saying. I am already aware that Kel and I will predictably see a great many things quite differently, and I do not seek to engage his perspectives any longer accordingly.

[ Friday, February 23, 2007 00:01: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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Why You Suck in General
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Profile #105
My responses to Kel are based on precisely what Alo first pointed out. Kel snipes at me with politely-couched, yet insulting implications such as that I operate by "circular reasoning," while ignoring the spirit of my words or of my heart behind them. It's soulless nitpicking of technique. It's not reserving judgement before asking questions to better understand or to clarify first what I am saying. It doesn't demonstrate any genuine interest in my perspective or passion. It's not honoring. It's technical sniping, and it just feels mean. Why? To continually seek to put me in my place? It's unimportant, though. Kel will forever disapprove of how I communicate, think, feel...whatever...apparently, and that's fine by me. Maybe just ignore me and my hopelessly convoluted logic, thinking, and communication.

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Anyone ever... in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
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We need to put a list of these hidden levers in the references for GF4 accessible through the header link. This question gets asked over and over.

Look for yet another of the numerous hidden levers Jeff put in the game to open that door behind a nearby pillar. This faked me out the first couple times I played too.

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[ Wednesday, February 21, 2007 23:38: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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Easter Egg in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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I seem to recall Thuryl mentioning an Easter Egg in Burwood somewhere...Fort Raevinn or somewhere nearby, I thought, in which after killing some battle betas or something a hidden area opens up. I thought I saved the info to check it out myself, but can find neither any such notes, nor the original thread, even with a search for relevant terms. Will someone restate how to get at the Easter Egg?

Thanks,

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Breeding Pits in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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There are two rooms you will never get into: one off the battle arena in the NE corner, and one off the lab in the E. Jeff said he closed them up as abandoned parts of the game that didn't work.

You should be able to get back into your guest quarters at any time, once you have "cleared" the zone, as I recall. Be sure to check the right door. Only the one you first used opens for you.

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Why You Suck in General
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Member # 6292
Profile #76
"Circular reasoning"...Kel, you seem to love to attack what is your perception of my reasoning, but my experience is that you frequently miss the gist and quality of my comments, almost consistently so. I talk about quality, and your comments seem to seek to reduce mine to quantity. Namely, they frequently get reduced to dualistic categorization, which I despise. My comments usually attempt to point at values measured on some kind of continua.

I am neither "for" nor "against" online community. It is not about whether or not they qualify as "relationships" or "community" or "reality" in a dualistic sense of being or not being something. I am commenting on relative value and signficance, and the online world is for many many people a pale substitute for real life human interaction and relationship. This is a huge "duh" and I'm not wanting to belabor a point we should all realize readily. It is curious to me that very few people ever refer to this aspect as they argue, dissect, and obsess over the unreal world of a bunch of game fans writing conversations online. It gives the impression of gravity to an environment that is so inconsequential in the big picture.

I choose to be here too, at least on and off, obviously. I enjoy online communication and think it's a fantastic modern wonder. I have known many many people to some degree in the last 11 years I have been online. The ones who have had more significance and memorability in my life are the ones I wound up meeting for some reason. My comments are not an attack on online community. I am poking at the self-reverence and obsessiveness I witness in an online community about something wholly disposable in the big picture (playing games,) which is really rather absurd.

I'll poke fun at myself in the process, for my own degree of investment in something that is so inconsequential, and, truth be told, a potential great waster of time in my own life. That people seem to take it all so seriously truly weirds me out.

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[ Wednesday, February 21, 2007 23:08: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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Why You Suck in General
Shaper
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Profile #68
ET, phone home. :P

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Spiderweb Monthly Stats - February 2007 in General
Shaper
Member # 6292
Profile #86
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, at least I'll still have my total post count.

*gazes fondly at his 6786*

I think 6789 will be an even more interesting number to note.

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[ Wednesday, February 21, 2007 20:05: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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Why You Suck in General
Shaper
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Profile #66
quote:
Alorael quoth:
quote:
Originally written by Synergy:

But why focus unduly on relationship which can never be satisfying a tenth of the richness or in the way real world relationships can be for us?

Why not? If we're communcating and relating, no matter how attenuated those relationships may be, it's worth the time to make them good relationships.

Please note my use of the word "unduly." I agree any relationship worth undertaking is worth doing well. It's the relative weight and importance between online relations, in which the people you are investing in have little bearing on your actual world, and your real life, in which your relationships have the power to dramatically affect your life even many years later (and vice-versa.)

Thuryl, I felt very sad when I read what you last wrote.

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Profile #82
Please don't be disrespectful toward the very respectable and valuable asset we have here in Alex. You don't know what you're doing, and I'll get mad.

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Why You Suck in General
Shaper
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Profile #54
Said Thuryl:

quote:
In what sense is real communication between real people not a real relationship?
Online communication is fraught with illusory qualities galore, because it involves perhaps one-tenth to one-one-hundredth of the communication that in-person communication affords. Gone are tonal qualities, facial cues, eye contact, body language, and many, many nuances of communication that occur in person, including things that may be communicated through proximity below the level of consciousness.

Until we've actually met someone in person and begun to establish a relationahip based on some semblance of reality of who each person is, it's something largely surreal and vaporous. Much of the "relationship" is constructed out of imagination, rather than any reality, because we have to imagine so much of what that person is actually like. It's communication with virtual strangers with the sometimes treacherous illusion of intimacy.

If you can settle for that as a meaningful and "real relationship" in your life, then you have my sympathies. It's fun bantering about with people from around the world online, and I do develop an affection for many people I may never meet. Relationship is what I have with the friends I have coming over for dinner tonight.

EDIT: In fairness to your point, it's all relationship of some kind. But why focus unduly on relationship which can never be satisfying a tenth of the richness or in the way real world relationships can be for us?

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Why You Suck in General
Shaper
Member # 6292
Profile #50
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. It's not what you do, it's how you do it.

I can agree with the essence of Alec's complaint. The choice of method, if intended to be effective, is baffling.

But, yes. The SW environment is presently frivolous and tedious to me. It has been much more stimulating in the past. It will change again tomorrow. The in-jokes are celebrated beyond merit, and are more typically non-sensical than clever. Dikiyoba's story is heavy on excessive name-inclusion and light on anyone doing anything witty or relevant to one's actual personality. Are we really that easily bought off and entertained by ourselves? The obsession with how long people have been here and how to categorize members is glaringly irrelevant to, well, anything remotely important. As I commented, I'm much more engaged by the quality of anyone's posts, than how long they have been here or what kind of virtuall-reality icon status someone deems them to have earned.

It's an online forum. It's fleeting. It hopefully is one little part of a well-rounded existence for a person and little more. It's certainly nothing to get precious about. It's not actual community or real relationship. It's not unlike watching people online dating who are imagining that they are falling in love. There is an absurd self-obsession and fantastical wankiness about it all. It's laughable and tragic at the same time.

I'm here because I like the games, and sometimes enjoy the other inanity, silliness, or seriousness that can occur here. At the end of the day though, it all amounts to nothing really. Bits and pixels that will all cease to exist one day. It's very low on the scale of what is meaningful in my actual life. I do enjoy it though. Sometimes. Somewhat.

The criticism is valid. But it's also entirely unimportant what does or does not happen here. If I want it to be different, I poke at it with some wry commentary, and I proactively do something to create what I desire in the environment. When I graduate in a month, I may, for instance, yet revisit the epigenetics topic I would like to present much better than I did on my first attempt.

What I find both amusing and appalling at times is how seriously people can take their internet interaction. I think Alec is conveying similar disgust at the glaring superficiality at present.

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Spiderweb IRL in General
Shaper
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Profile #39
I suppose I could meet SW Member #1 if I wanted to go pick up my next game in person.

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Khyryk quest in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
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Profile #23
Originally written by Mimi:
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Not enough essence to make creatures. :(
It sounds like you needed to invest more of your skill points into Intelligence.

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- the death mushroom. For Yves, how to do to know the place ?
Follow him from a safe distance. Once you mention the mushrooms to him, he wanders out of his shop to check up on the location every so often.

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- To kill Litalia... it is not possible because there are all the characters of the area to kill they are no more friendly
This is true. To kill Litalia, you will turn the entire town against you. You wouldn't want to kill Litalia unless you are strongly pro-Shaper, in which case, what do you care if you have to kill an entire rebel camp?

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Shaper
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Profile #47
quote:
Originally written by the Selectively Scoldy Slarty:

Synergy had more of a reason?
This can never be stated too often:

It's not what you do.
It's how you do it.

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The Insidious Infiltrator in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 6292
Profile #51
Valeta III has finished Chapter Two. The following stats were taken at one level higher than where she actually finished the chapter, right after cleaning out the Golem's Fen and buying Battle Skills in Aziraph in Chapter Three.

IMAGE(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/synergy67/V3-Ch.jpg)

Her gear:

Fibrous Breastplate
Agent Cloak (+1 Battle Magic / +1 Mental Magic / +1 Blessing Magic / +1 Spellcraft)
Girdle of Genius (+2 Intelligence)
Guardian Claymore (+2 Strength / +2 Quick Action)
Ring of Eye’s Purity (+3 Battle Magic / +3% Energy Preservation)
Runed Jade Necklace (+1 Spellcraft)
Clawbug Carapace (+1 Quick Action)
Gloves of Savagery (with Damage Attacker enhancement)
(+2 Strength / +2 Melee / +4 Quick Action)
Fine Silk Pants
(Dexterity) Sandals (+2 Dexterity)

The Golem Fen spawner died from two hits of Ice Spray. The Golem took four hits of this 'n' that to fold. Immediately after these stats, Val took out the Maddened Rotghroth in the Wrecked Lab with two double-bursts of Lightning Aura following the usual Wrack 'n' Shackle. Virtually anything dies with one magical blow of her discriminating choice-frequently still Firebolt. Shaftoe's Minds each died with two hits of Ice Spray. Shaftoe went to his celestial Valhalla quickly after Val charmed his golem and spine shielded both of them, letting Shaftoe punish himself mightily. A turn or two of Ice Spray took care of the rest.

Val can still die fairly easily if she gets careless and slips up her strategy. Her adversaries rarely get the chance.

We're just starting in on Monarch's realm now. I think I hit a Glaahk for 308 Ice Spray with the boosting of the mage assistants.

More to come. Infiltrators rock. Magical warfare is king.

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The Insidious Infiltrator in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Profile #50
Valeta Blue got ahead of herself and started helping the Infiltrators in Burwood Province before doing her other necessary duties. For this unpardonable sin, she has been fired, but her immaculate starting clone has returned to improve upon her effort and will surely surpass the fearsome deeds of her forebearers.

In this third iteration of the Insidious Infiltrator, Valeta is focusing with resolute purity on her magic. She is largely through Chapter 2 at present.

She maxed Mechanics at 8 immediately to capitalize on Living Tool Use and early gear attainment through looting, then Reputation to 6 next, then Mechanics to 10, then Reputation to 8. She added +1 Intelligence (for a little extra headroom) and some Healing Craft. All other points have been into Battle Magic, Spellcraft, and a bit of Mental Magic and Blessing Magic.

She is packing quite a wallop with, well, everything now. She is more powerful than ever before with this streamlining, and everything normal dies with one blast of something, frequently simply a Fireball (which is free of essence cost.) She's been a bit fragile, but is so lethal when hasted and buffed, that it's rarely a problem when her lethal intentions are properly executed. Now with Spine Shield and Steel Skin, she is becoming an Amazonian tank as well.

As I catch up to where I left off before, I'll start posting some stories again. I'll post some stats at the end of Chapter 2. Meanwhile, any other comments or experiences with your own Mighty Infiltrator are welcome. Like the lot of so many women throughout history, I think that she has been underappreciated and underestimated. Vivé la femme!

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Why isn't there a strong magic/medium shaping/weak weapon class? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
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Profile #13
Is it possible that someone openly agrees with what I have long been touting about the mighty Infiltrator? I didn't finish my Infiltrator Tales thread yet, because I messed up my game in progress. I have recently started a new game and will at least post the final results when I finish.

The Infiltrator as a solo magician with no points invested in shaping or battle skills becomes a massively powerful mage who can do reasonably well with a sword when necessary. It's so satisfying. You have loads of essence for creations when desired and buffs and healing and offensive spells galore. I certainly find her the most powerful choice. The Servile may be more of a tank, but it steers you more toward defensiveness (building endurance) than towards honing devastating offensive and regenerative ability.

Hooray for the underrated Infiltrator. You will hear more from me on her yet.

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SYNERGY LIST: GF4?How To Forge Stuff And What It Does in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Well, I assume you know where to find it.

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Valentines' Day Suprise in General
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Profile #21
Did you hear about the girlfriend who had her entire left side cut off?

She's all right now.

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Khyryk quest in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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No matter how big a good game is, it's never quite big enough.

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