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Jeff on programming in General
Shaper
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Profile #25
My game addiction began when the local Pizza Hut on Mercer Island got a Space Invaders in 1978. Way too much of my newspaper route money went to feed that beast, one quarter at a time. The video arcade mania of the early 80's was something to behold. Talk about a kid in a candy shop. Thanks to the home computer, I never quite had to get over being a pixel junkie. I refuse to define whether that is good or bad. It just is.

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Insert Random Nethergate: Resurrection Questions Here in Nethergate
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Profile #28
Where do you get the All Circle Scroll? I thought I read it around here recently, but can't find any mention of it except Khoth saying it exists. I thought I remembered reading that you kill Raven or someone really good to get it.

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The Lonely Celt in Nethergate
Shaper
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Profile #27
Khoth, how would you summarize that worked for you? Did you essentially make a glass cannon?

So, I'm just starting Aethdoc now. I've been getting a crummy 40 or 50 points out of 200 for finishing quests like Goagh-Nar and the Faerie Bazaar Master's three quests, which I was able to tell him I'd finished one after another without having to budge an inch in front of him. I forgot for a while to tell him about the Vale of the Sould. I'm at Level 26 now. I had to leave a lot of loot behind at Goagh-Nar, but I got all the really tasty trinkets.

EDIT: I meant to mention that those Fomorian Crushers are brutal on a singleton. They take many attacks to go down, and they deal a lot of damage in the meantime. Good time for Call Hunt and Coils of the Serepent. Oh, and it's the first time I ever used Simulacrum. I copied a Crusher to deal with other Fomorians and Crushers. Quite effective, I must say.

I tend to get bored on these later giant dungeon crawls. I like the earlier ones.

-S-

[ Friday, June 01, 2007 06:23: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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Good and Evil Powergaming (spoiler) in Nethergate
Shaper
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Profile #17
I did everything according to my power gaming plan above. I got the message that the little people had moved away after refusing to help them. I've killed all the GIFTS and their eggs. I've done it all, man, but I can't get my evil reward in the Small Vale by Vanarium.

I am guessing that a positive reward has been missed somewhere. There were a couple positive-seeming tasks I did during this game that aren't on the list at all. Has anyone actually acquired both the positive and negative reward in one game?

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SYNERGY LIST?Nethergate: Resurrection Items in Nethergate
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Profile #18
Yeah, supposedly they exist in this game. Has anyone ever found them? I have to admit I never think to look at or pick up bricks.

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SYNERGY LIST?Nethergate: Resurrection Items in Nethergate
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Profile #15
I am getting the following error trying to cut and paste my latest version of the Items List into my original post here:

"Sorry, we do not permit this HTML tag:Parenthesis in HTML tag"

I can't figure out for the life of me what this is talking about. Anyone know?

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The Lonely Celt in Nethergate
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In the Circle Warrens from something you kill at the end. I will update my items list now. It's having some buggy html error message when I try to update it, so it hasn't been done for a couple days. >:/

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The Lonely Celt in Nethergate
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Part 3 — On Spells, Rune Reading, Faerie Lore, and staring to Kick Butt

So, yeah, I just got the Knowledge Charm from the Hall of the Lamp. It raises Rune Reading by 7 total with its +2 Druidism. That's nuts. However, the Knowledge Charm in the game is currently broken. it adds no Rune Reading except the indirect +2 from its +2 Druidism. I have contacted Jeff about this and hopefully, he fixes it.

There is quite a bit of Rune-Reading boosting gear by later in the game, so I would have strategized a little differently, had I been more aware of it all ahead of time. Namely, one could get away with very little investment in Faerie Lore at all. I used skill point for three levels of it, and forgot to buy one level first at the Faerie Bazaar. A singleton could readily do without buying any levels at all, I think. My PC has 5 Faerie Lore with the Druid Bracelet. Rune Reading has suddenly ramped up to 27 with all my gear. It should be at 32, if the Knowledge Charm worked. I don't yet know how much I need for the Control Foe spell in Aethdoc—the only available or desired one I have left to get in this game.

Ater finishing the Hall of the Lamp, you can add to Rune Reading with these items:

Druid Bracelet: +4
Emerald Helm +1
Silken Pantaloons +1
Robe of the Archdruid +3
Rune Shield +2
Knowledge Charm +2 (and will be +7 when it gets fixed)

I might be missing something, but I omitted things that will duplicate or offer lesser boosts to Rune Reading, like the Intelligence Bracelet. You can see that +13 to Rune Reading is available right now, or +18 if the Knowledge Charm is fixed. With 24 seeming likely to be the highest Rune Reading required in the game, that means you only need 6 in Rune Reading, and you will get more than that from Intelligence and Druidism alone. My advice as a Celt Singleton is to buy the one level of Faerie Lore from the Faerie Bazaar, and that's it. I don't know if more Faerie Lore is critical for other events, but the Druid Bracelet will add +2 for a minimum of 3. Maybe 4 is desired, which would mean training one level.

I went back everywhere I had missed out on spells. With the Emerald Helm, Robe of the Archdruid, and Druid's Bracelet, I am now able to I have all the available spells. Turns out most can be had with 20 Rune Reading, but the worst has been 24 for Call Hunt. I won't have Hero of Old, because I will give the mine stones to the Rose Lady, but I can live without it.

My PC is up to 8 on all Spell Circles, except Health, which I left at 5, and is now going to be boosting her Intelligence. Herbcraft is at 8, so I can make Energy Elixirs. I did get the Create Elixir ability, but I’ll try not to use it unless really necessary. Suddenly, I am feeling like my powerful Infiltrator from G4.

I took out all the spiders in the world. If I claim my evil prize, I will be hosed, but I should be able to collect it any time I want at this point. I got the sixth key, then mopped up the Circle Warrens easily and the Hall of the Lamp with little trouble. I used four Wind Warriors to take on the Dark Wyrms to get Sylak's Thumpin' Shovel. Those Cave Giants are a bit tedious and annoying, but they die as easily as anything else. With the recent acquisition of missing spells, I can use Heartshock, Ravage Life, and Clouds of Night. I haven’t even used Doom yet. I like the Roman side of the Hall of the Lamp much better. With the Ring of Health and Basic Charm, those acid slimes aren't bad at all, though I still picked them off one at time for the most part. The Genie does indeed boost your first four stats +1 if you command him to serve you. I am at 8/5/5/3 on those now with current gear and I still have a free +2 to each coming from future boons.

I successfully finished the Orim quest finally, and cleaned out the Vale of the Sould. I I am noticing that there are one or two awesome spears in the game, but no great swords. The magical swords suck compared to a simple Blessed Longsword. As a singlteon, there is no way I'm going with a two-handed battle axe and giving up my shield. So, unlike every other SW game, there really is no cool sword to go after in Nethergate. Too bad.

Martyr's Shield rocks though. Lydia is sporting the following gear now:

Helm of Speed: +1 AP
Blessed Sling
Martyr Shield
Blessed Chain Mail
Warrior’s Plaid pants: +2 Hardiness
Blessed (and dipped) Longsword
Giantish Gauntlets (+3 Melee Damage)
Spider Silk Cloak (+1 Dexterity)
Nimble Band: +1 AP
Druid Bracelet: +2 Druidism, +2 Faerie Lore
War Charm: +2 Armor Use (I need it), +2 Hardiness
Boots of Apollo: +1 Strength, +3 Defense

+2 AP is working for me quite nicely, I must say. The Ring of Speed from the Ifrit genie does the exact same thing as the Nimble Band, yet is priced oddly very differently. I told Jeff about this a long time back, but he never changed it. Go figure.

I have darn near done everything possible before entering Goagh-Nar at this point, so it should be a cakewalk. I suppose when I get branded a killer, I will mop out the Faerie Bazaar, Hollow Hills, and Jagged Aerie and see about getting another level or two out of it, though I am sorry to do any of those. This game is a parallel to my Infiltrator game, in that I am trying to maximize her possible experience and boons.

On to Goagh-Nar, the Shadowvalley Fort, and Aethdoc in rapid succession. Then on to Annwyn and the Spire to finish. All money from now on goes into training fighting skills and buying some exlixirs. I should be in very good shape.

Anyone else playing Celt singletons right now? How is your game going, and how are you strategizing?

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groping rubbery fingers under goagh-nar in Nethergate
Shaper
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Profile #5
Galag-Trav...right. You meant what I knew.

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Insert Random Nethergate: Resurrection Questions Here in Nethergate
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Profile #26
Gahhhhh! In my singleton game now, I can't get Aidin in the Temple of Brigantia to give me a dialog option about getting the Golden Pelt for Samael so I can free Orin for Aidin. I have gotten Samael to request the pelt, but whe I visit Aidin, there is no option to ask about it. I have not even been under the Temple yet either.

Someone please describe exactly what you do to trigger and fulfill this quest.

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ADDIT: Nevermind. Revisiting Samael and going through the dialog with him seems to have (re)activated the dialog option with Aidin. Whew.

Hmm, unless killing the Fen Wolf for Owen is inexplicably what made the difference. Very odd.

[ Thursday, May 31, 2007 01:19: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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The Lonely Celt in Nethergate
Shaper
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Ah, I seem to have missed that in previous games somehow. Meanwhile, I killed the hags in Hagfen and got the Archdruid Robe. My Rune Reading ability is up to 22 with gear. I need 25 to get Total Healing under Galag-Trav. I'm not sure what I need for Nether Arts Spells. Anyone know? I want Wind Warriors and Call Beast.

Druidism, Intelligence, and Faery Lore all count +1 to Rune Reading. A Druid's Bracelet with its Druidism +2 and Faery Lore +2 adds +4 Rune Reading total, while an Intelligence Bracelet only adds +2 Rune Reading.

Khoth said there is a boon given in the Hall of the Lamp if you take a certain direction with the Genie. I'm going to attempt that soonest. I have done that in my last game, but did not notice a boon. Lady Rose gives a boon if you bring her the mine stones. I hadn't noticed that before either. This singleton should be fairly competent by the end...not that she isn't now, but she's not as weighty as you'd expect for a singleton. Soon...

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The Lonely Celt in Nethergate
Shaper
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Profile #18
Aha. I missed that Galitan is there with the Rose Lady in Hollow Hills. He teaches Stone Guardian and Soul Lances. Yes!

Umm...Celtic Shrine? What's that? Do you mean the Temple of Brigantia? I never have seen this Create Elixir ability before.

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Nethergate Resurrection - Roman Singleton (some spoilers) in Nethergate
Shaper
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Profile #7
How's this game doing, Random?

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The Lonely Celt in Nethergate
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Profile #16
Hagfen sells only 1 level? And does that mean only if you have zero in a Circle? I forgot about the health benefits of Herbcraft. It probably is affordable, but we'll see how the cash feels by the late game. I'm about 2/3 through right now. Speaking of which...

Part Two

I sent Lydia on quest to remove her curse soonest, once crossing the Crystal Bridge. I was expecting a nasty fight with the Giant Slugs behind Reptrakos' Lair to get the dragon scale there, but it turned out quite lucky. The slugs happened to come right up to the corner and I only had to fight two at once, at swordpoint. It really did feel like the two acid-resistant pieces of gear I donned helped quite a bit with the bit of acid I got too.

I forgot about the +1 Strength boon available at the Temple of Brigantia for quite a while, or I'd have done it almost immediately. I brought Beast Circle and Craft Circle up to 5 and stopped while I ran back and forth between Selkie Fen and Hagfen and also back up to the Goblin Pits to do the two quests for the hags. Finally, I was able to boost Beast and Craft Circles to 8! That felt terrific, because spell circles were creeping along. I was able to get the positive reputation boon as soon as I could get the ring from the ant and help the gryphon, and then kill the goblins on the bridge to the SW zone. That 4x +1 boost was very satisfying and very helpful.

I got Key IV in Vanarium right away, Key V from the Selkies while doing the above quests, and just now finally got Key VI a fair bit later after going through Hagfen and the Maze of Thorns (but not yet killing the Widow Queen.) I just now managed to get the Emerald Helm from the 18 Fomorians outside Goagh-Nar. I did the kill Kharto quest for the goblins, then killed them all. I went back and got the +3 SP in the Goblin Pit once I got the Druid's Breacelet to get my Druidism high enough to benefit. Once I got Break Barrier after boosting Craft Circle in Hagfen, I got the Wyrmskin Helm from Galag-Trav and got into the Forgotten Crypt for some more goodies. I only recently went to the Temple of Brigantia, which I should have done much earlier. I did rent one soul from Valley of the Sould so I could get the bracelets from Hagfen. The soul came back to me, so I can use it again. Who knows what it takes to have that happen? Faery Lore? Intelligence?

Getting to the final Lost Soul by the Hollow Hills was difficult. Those 9 asps are the hardest battle I've had to fight anywhere yet as a singleton. I am determined to beat Reptrakos before this game is over. I've done all the negative reputation points now except for the GIFTS ones. I'm going to try to do the Circle Warren and under the Temple of Brigantia (that Golden Pelt quest better work right this time) befoere finally entering Goagh-Nar. I've darn near done all else that can be done before it, anyway.

By the way, I only just got the Crystal Charm from Hagfen. I didn't have it listed on my list. I have faced and killed many basilisks, mostly by reloading a few times, but it's not hard to beat them at all if I can just survive the opening round. Going in with a haste potion or hasting helps too, because then I get the initiative. I am using Control Beast a lot, and sometimes Mighty Beast, though I am loathe to share or waste my kill XP unless absolutely necessary to get through a battle. My most potent offensive spell is still Darts of Ice, because I can't get Heartshock or Stone Guardian due to low Rune Reading. I have Doom from the Circle, but am still working on getting Spirit Circle up to 8 to use it. When I get it there, look out! I wonder if I will even be able to read Soul Lances in the Aethdoc library? Probably not. I couldn't read Call Hunt in the Maze of Thorns or Wind Warriors under the Faery Bazaar. How the heck did Khoth get Wind Warriors in his singleton game?

It has been moderately challenging at points, partly because I am determined to get some tough things done in a certain order to optimize training and gear and reputation. Parts of what I have squeaked through would have been much more brutal on Torment, and would have had to been put off till later...like those darn asps.

Here's how the stats are looking at this point, including the normal gear I'm wearing: Emerald Helm, Bladesman's Band (I needed the +1 Armor Use once I got the Helm), Boots of Apollo, and the Druid's Bracelet. I'm wearing Miranda's Locket. I swear it helps me survive when zeroed more often. I could have left my Circles even one level lower with the Emerald Helm, but I intend to use the Helm of Speed a bit later.

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[ Wednesday, May 30, 2007 22:33: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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The Lonely Celt in Nethergate
Shaper
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Profile #14
I'm beginning to think that Herbcraft is entirely not necessary for a singleton. There are a fair number of energy potions around. I have yet to run out, and there are more I can buy. I do not have many energy herbs or spiritual herbs to make many potions anyway, due to low Woodscraft. The multiple thousands of gold for Herbcraft could have been used to buy other things sooner, like Health Circle and Faery Lore. In fact, knowing that the Crone sells x many levels of all circles in Hagfen, I'm wondering how that could be capitalized on best to save SP for a singleton. Maybe Spirit and Beast Circles could be left at 1 and 0 until getting there.

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groping rubbery fingers under goagh-nar in Nethergate
Shaper
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Profile #1
You're a Celt and cannot go into that crypt room—only Romans can. There is some other useful stuff accessible there in the rest of the Forgotten Crypt. There is also a special item hidden elsewhere on the lower level of Goagh-Nar.

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Good and Evil Powergaming (spoiler) in Nethergate
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Profile #15
I needed to get that first reputation reward soonest, and the Gryphon Aerie happens for me later in the game (I need Dexterity of 6 there to make it worth the bother!) I already got my positive reputation reward and have only to take out the GIFTS to get the negative, and I haven't even done Goagh-Nar yet. It's my understanding that going that negative makes the Faery Bazaar angry at you...and who else?

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EDIT: Dexterity of 6 is required in the Jagged Aerie.

[ Thursday, May 31, 2007 23:01: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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Good and Evil Powergaming (spoiler) in Nethergate
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Profile #13
• North of the Spire helping the little people by killing the Fomorian to the north (+10), fail (-10)

By "fail", I am guessing it means "decline to help"?

I hope so, because that's what I just did.

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Party creation? in Nethergate
Shaper
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Profile #4
Khoth metioned three rewards of "+1 to all primary stats in the game. The positive/negative reward for reputation are two. What's the third?

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The Lonely Celt in Nethergate
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On with the game. The first thing I start with in any SW game is figuring out the best stuff I can steal in the home fort before they ride me out of town on a rail. Nethergate allows four visible thefts before they've had enough of you. I made two now and two after I could visit Chief Cartumnus. I upgraded to a stolen Iron Longsword courtesy of Llyn, who also gives the quest to find and kill five magical beasts. I upgraded to a stolen Iron Largeshield thanks to the Trainer.

I explored the confines of the NE Eastern Zone, was sure to collect my Mistletoe and Healing Herbs daily, as much as possible. I focused on Galag-Trav largely before the Goblin Pits. It is amazing that you can get a Blessed Chain Mail at the very beginning of the game. I will be wearing that for darn near the entire game! Destroying the altar on the main level of Galag-Trav was beyond me till later, though. The Spectral Wolf was cleaning my clock early on. The Wyrmskin Helm had to wait a bit too. I stopped after cleaning out the initial chamber of the Fomorians to hit the Goblin Pits. I was able to clean out everything else and rescue little Hiawatha.

The Goblin Pits seemed very easy until I hit the Deep Goblin Pits, and then I had to be more careful and calculating again. I was able to clean everything out though. Rune Reading was of course not enough to give me the spells, etc. there. The Crone Cavern was little trouble. The Ruined Hall seemed easy overall. I was able to clean out the entire Burial Glen with the only real trouble being the Nether Beasts at the end. Disrupt Spirit is one spell that feels quite powerful and effective. It’s nearing triple digits in strength typically. I wasn’t able to clean the Fomorians off the bridge quite yet.

Levelling up started at an absurdly quick pace, but tapered off by the time I was up to double digits. Here are my stats after the Ruined Hall and getting cursed, just heading off to the Faery Bazaar.

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Training, I got Woodscraft up to 4, then Herbcraft to 6. I got Darts of Ice, then started bringing the last three Circles up along with a little more Strength and Intelligence. Luck is still at 2. I unwisely gave myself two levels of Faery Lore, not realizing I could buy it near the Faery Bazaar. That was a bit unfortunate, as it didn’t really help me read anything anyway. Not sure what else it affects in encounters. I am at this point just about to start buying more Healing Circle from Elonna by the Goblin Pits. It’s an expensive purchase. My Woodscraft ability sucks. I can’t recognize Energetic Herbs outdoors or half the other nodes.

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[ Wednesday, May 30, 2007 13:24: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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The Lonely Celt in Nethergate
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Randomizer said: "Tool use can be bought east of the Faery Bazaar and then reward from Kaja and bought under the Celtic Shrine. This helps get the experience reward for trapped boxes."

How's that? Using TU to have the boxes go off, and getting XP if you survive? Why not just get 1 TU to enable trying to use TU to open the box? Why spend more?

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The Lonely Celt in Nethergate
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I was going to recraft my PC out of Gordon for the extra SP, but looking at the specific starting values, here is what I found:

Bruce starts with 54 free SP and 3 Woodscraft
Gordon starts with 64 free SP and no special skill
Edana starts with 59 free SP and 2 Barter
Patrick starts with 60 free SP and no special skill

That's only 5 difference in points between Gordon and Edana. Edana will wind up with one more in Barter than Gordon after he buys one level. That's a 25% shift in how much I will get for all my loot. I think I'll stick with my Edana-based PC, but mostly because I'm already a ways along with her. Gordon is a good start too, perhaps best. Better Barter might not really be necessary at all in the long run. But I can see it helping me afford more spells, potions, and training sooner, and all this is also important. So, I'll stick with this build.

We'll just have to see how it goes.

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64 starting SP vs. 50? Crikey, that is a big difference. One Barter can't stack up against that. Money probably won't be a problem in this game, to fund the needs for only one PC.

<reload>

I guess I'll be doing Galag-Trav and The Goblin Pits over now. :)

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So, the question is, is one more Barter worth more in the run of a whole game vs (how many SP for Edana?)

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THE LONELY CELT — Introduction

I've been long wondering how a game as a Celt singleton will fare. I know it's got to be significantly harder than a Roman singleton who can operate more casually as a tank. A Celt has many more skills to consider developing with all the additional magic options. The Roman only has Tool Use to consider with three fewer spell sets. The solo Celt has to consider whether to try to keep up with Rune Reading and Faery Lore along with five magic circles and fighting abilities.

This will not be easy, of that I am certain. In fact, this oddly parallels my Infiltrator in G4, but with less potent offensive magic at her disposal. If the Roman tank is a Servile, the Celt mage/warrior is an Infiltrator, a much wimpier one. I am not a glutton for punishment. This game will be on Normal Difficulty. It's not meant to be a test of absolute endurance and possibility.

I'm going to post a simple, mostly text-only description of how it goes. Advice is certainly welcome, as I am less familiar with all the considerations and implications here than I was with my Infiltrator in G4. I know what I am going to attempt with my build strategy, but I don't know how it will turn out with actual available skill points. We shall see.

For starters, I really want to use Edana as the base character for my PC, because she starts with two Barter, and that's one more Barter than I can get by training. There is this weird thing that happens if you select a PC and delete the others though. It stays in its spot number, even if it is the only one. Little things like this can be darned annoying, as you keep trying to do things with PC 1 when it's really number 3. So, to get around this, I made a PC 1 and PC 3, then switched PC 3 to be PC 1, deleted PC 3, and—voila—PC 3 is now PC 1, the one and only.

I like looking at a female more than some armor-bound brute, so, I fashion Lydia, a redheaded Celt, into my PC.

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I gave her Strong Back and Druid Mastery as traits for 15% penalty. Both help with encumbrance, which is important. Strong Back also means fewer trips in and out of dungeons, of which there will be discouragingly too many as it is.

So, my initial SP allocation is as follows:

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I give her 2 Luck also. She begins with the most useful spells in all circles I want for free:

Mild Healing, Purge Venom
Battle Rage, Shielding, Lance of Fire, Quicksilver Feet (had to buy this one)
Call Aid, Serpent's Fang, Serpent's Coils
Create Light, Piercing Sight, Pass Portal
Disrupt Spirit, Sever Seal

My strategy: to make her adept in all five magics as well as able to hold her own in melee, and to wear the toughest armor possible. I want her to be able to make Energy Elixirs, which requires Herbcraft of 8 ultimately. We'll see if there are enough skill points to make all this possible. Strength, Dexterity, and Intelligence will be the expensive killers. Rune Reading will suffer and may have to be largely foregone as a means to score spells.

I will train her in as much as reasonable or possible before investing SP into those skills. The first thing I do is use money to give Lydia 4 Woodscraft, all she can train. That will be the best she gets in that department, unless I am mistaken. I will work her Battle Circle up to acquire Darts of Ice soonest as well. I am going to utilize an optimizing reputation strategy to get both rewards eventually.

Comments, advice, pointing out my glaring omissions all welcomed.

NEXT: The Game Is Afoot!

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[ Tuesday, May 29, 2007 16:28: Message edited by: Synergy ]

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