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quote:
Originally written by ef:

Mmh...you know how diamonds are created, under high pressure and very high temperature. If you see the diamond as a symbol of a person's very essence, extreme adversity can be the forge that brings it forth, meaning: that makes you aware of what you most deeply are. But this is not a path that everyone can follow without perishing, DV. If you win through, you bring back something indestructable - but if not, than you have those who, if they survive will draw hurt to them, because they expect it.
Perhaps. I can't argue that.

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Originally written by Thuryl:

DV, I apologise for the tone of my previous post; I seriously misjudged you. I know it's important to you to believe that your suffering was meaningful, that it's made you a better person; it's something I see a lot in survivors of abuse. But most of the time suffering doesn't make people better. Most of the time it just hurts and doesn't do any good for anyone. If you think it's okay for people to be hurt so that they'll deal with it better when they get hurt again later, you've already resigned yourself to the fact that they're going to keep getting hurt again and again. That's not acceptable to me.
Ah, but that is life. That is the human condition. That is how it is.

"Abuse" has left me empowered. I no longer care much for what others think. I am well beyond any of that. Which is why I can wear kilts in public or pretty much do whatever the hell I please with no hangups. And I do so in the small minded redneck infested South.

Racism, elitism, bullies, all of these are a fact of life. There is no addressing the issue of what causes them... That is a bunch of crap and everybody knows it. You can not use these things as an excuse to hold back or to live your life in fear. You must reach the point where you realise; they have NO power over you. You can not always control how other people are, and the world does not conform to whatever you think it should be. All you can do is make due for your self and hold your self accountable. Be personally responsible. Ultimately, YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR SELF. End of story. You can natter on endlessly about how bullies shouldn't do this, or racists shouldn't do that, and you can talk your self to death about whatever psychobabble you want to make your self feel more comfortable as a target... Or you can just rise above it. It really is that simple. People would rather turn to the psychobabble about why bullies do this, and why bullies do that, and they are willing to do anything and everything to place the problem on somebody or something else... Rather than place it on their own shoulders out of self pity or doubt. Or whatever their reason. While there are circumstances where somebody might need help, in most average situations a person should be able to take care of themselves, provided they are raised in such a way that encourages them to stick up for themselves. Bullies thrive on people and situations that have no power of their own. Going for help typically reinforces this problem. Dealing with it your self is taking power over the situation. Even if you get your butt kicked. If you make it difficult for your oppressor to deal with you, if you make it cost them enough effort, they will move on and find better targets. Even better, if you break them down, humiliate them publicly, and rob them of their power, it usually breaks them completely. I have seen that countless times. I don't mean fighting back, I mean beating the unholy hell out of them and doing it in front of all the people that they bully. Said bully will never be able to look at those people ever again in the eye with out remembering what happened, and that all these people saw. The humiliation and the shame eats them up inside. Breaks them down. All of their power is gone, their fuel, their power source, they have no fear to draw from, but they themselves are now the ones feeling all of the fear and shame they had made their victims feel.

In the end, the world is not perfect. There are no promises of safety, security, or protection. There is only whatever you make for your self, that is it, end of story. And once you secure something for your self, then you make the world a better place around you by serving and protecting everybody weaker and smaller than you are.

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Previous to that point, Winston had never had to face up to his fear. He had led a sheltered life, so to speak.

Somebody used to hardship, accustomed to fear, and all to familiar with pain might be able to endure. Somebody aware of what their body was capable of, they have a better chance of pulling it off.

If I had to choose between the rats, or my worst fear, and my wife, I would choose the rats.

Oh, another important thing to remember. You will always have freedom of choice, but never freedom from choice. If you are gonna go, go with a bang.

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Been thinking.

Strength of character means having the rats chew off your face rather than chewing off Julia's.

One or two of you might get this. The rest of you need to spend more time reading. :P

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Originally written by Zeviz:

Kel, if a third grader is getting beaten up by a sixth grader, it's pretty obvious that it's time to call in the teachers/parents/other authorities. However, if a third grader is constantly punched, pinched, etc. by a weaker second grader, it's the third grader's fault.

As for "fighting back", this has nothing to do with physical violence. If we are talking about playground bullies, the conflict is physical. But in other situation "fighting back" can take the form of being unafraid to report abuse or other problems, going out to lead a counter-protest, or simply trying to accomplish something until you succeed.

Today's American schools are ideal for encouraging complacency and "not fighting back", particularly in the sence of "persisting until you achieve your goal". With grade inflation, multiple "tracks" that allow students to graduate without learning even seventh-grade material, and classes whose main requirement is to be fun for the students the system encourages everybody to be happy with whatever little they have, without striving for more.

I guess I am in the middle between DV's independent strength and mindless submission that would result from some of the suggestions on this thread. Unfortunately I am a lot closer to submission edge of the spectrum, but I can at least understand the problem.

PS I just read DV's last posts and ... wow. I have a lot of respect for you. Your post makes mine irrelevant, but I'll leave it in since I've already typed it.

The world needs quiet but strong voices of moderation as much as it needs loud obnoxious outspoken voices. In there somewhere is balance. Ghandi was submissive, but knew the depth of his character. Being submissive in it self does not make you weak. It is what you do with that submission. To turn other cheek takes a great deal of strength and it is not a weak act at all. It to has a place. I do not go out and beat others up for saying something to me. People razz me about my dreadlocks all the time, or the fact that I wear a "skirt" in public. I am ok and secure enough with my self that I can ignore that. And if somebody wants to take a poke at me, I can embarass them with out hurting them. I can hurt them far more by never laying a finger on them and letting them have it with words, or by simply letting them do whatever and then ask "Is that all you got? I expected so much more from a tough talker like yourself."

What makes you a man or a woman is never running away and always facing the situation head on. The only true failure is never trying.

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quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

quote:
Originally written by Alec:

(long rant)
I believe my paper-thin argument has been thoroughly pwned.

Okay, so supervision is necessary. I get it now. But there's still a point at which it becomes ridiculous, and forbidding tag is one of them.

On the subject of bullying... I think that teachers should be on alert to prevent it. If parents have to get involved, so be it (regardless of how much that sort of thing can embarass a kid). My two cents...

quote:
Originally written by Delicious Vlish:

Does it make you think any less of me? Or do you like this side?
No, I think much more of you now, personally. I was actually quite relieved to see that there's more than a Vlish gimmick there.

I would have to say that a vast majority of people find my point of view sickening to them. Personal responsibility, accountability, and strong straight forward moral convictions frightens them.

I am a loud, angry, outspoken, dreadlocked kilt wearing freak. People are frightened of me. I don't fit in. A great number of people would rather have nothing to do with me. People wish that I, and what I represent would just go away.

It scares me that one day, it might.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Of course fighting back against a bully prepares you well for real life, because when someone at the office says something unpleasant to you, you don't respond with a witty retort: you go over and punch him in the face. That's how people make friends and get ahead in life.

Seriously, this idea that physical violence against "bullies" is in some way useful as a life lesson seems completely idiotic. When do you literally hit back later in life?

I'm all for allowing kids to run around and climb on things and be kids — as long as they're not in any serious danger — but the idea that a third grader should just "fight back" when being bullied by a sixth grader who is a foot taller is just stupid.

And this doesn't have anything to do with being a "free spirit" or "thinking ouside the box" or whatever the hell garbage it was just associated with. Not wanting to fight is a far more outside-the-box and valorous impulse than simply a meatheaded desire to get even.

Most of these sorts of problems are incidental and kids can usually solve them themselves. However, if something more serious does come up — repeated physical abuse, typically by someone much larger and stronger, but even if not — a kid must not be afraid to go to an adult for help.

As far as making playground equipment safer: some safety regulations go too far, but I'm not opposed to making small adjustments in order to reduce the possibility of very serious injury. I don't think much is lost by changing cement to rubber — really, what the hell is the difference to a six-year-old? — but I do think it's a major downer when someone is severely injured or killed at recess. Watching your friend die is not a healthy part of growing up, and if we can reduce the instances of that, within reason, I'm all for it.

As was just said in the previous post, skinned knees are a normal part of childhood, but serious injury and death should not be.

Sorry for a double posting, but this is an issue I must reply to on its own terms.

Your example is flawed. Somebody popping off and saying something is one thing. You don't go and punch them in the nose in an office setting. That is not what this is about. You fire off a witty retort in return.

However... You see somebody being mugged in a parking lot, you see a woman being harassed or otherwise manhandled by some goon, it is your responsibility to go over and DO THE RIGHT THING. Which nobody ever seems to do in this modern age. People are all to happy to sit by and do nothing when bad things happen. Violence is WORTHLESS with out proper moral character.

You will notice one of the people I listed as great men was Ghandi... Grit. Let's talk about grit for a moment. I do not see a generation of mollycoddled nancies having enough grit to take a stance for their beliefs. Being tough and having moral character is not always about violence, some times it is about letting violence happen to you. How is some nancy little pantywaist going to hold up to any sort of beating, hardship, starvation, etc, with out some kind of toughening up? How do you know what you are capable of if you never suffer? What are your limits? When do you cry uncle or beg for mercy? How do you know the test of your mettle, your standard, how much you can endure before you cry out, whimper, or break down? Some times doing the right thing means suffering for others. It means shedding blood. It means being a real man and accepting your fate with out a lot of blubbering and whining and pissing and moaning. It means facing whatever with a quiet reserved sense of dignity and grim determination.

I grow tired when people present the sort of argument presented here, that growing up that way means you are going to beat people up in the workplace or any other useless example presented in this manner. It is a straw man. I know the depth of what I am capable of, what I can do, and I know that when the crunch comes, I can serve others selflessly. If I see something bad happening, I will not flinch or hesitate to stick my self in to that situation and make sure I can satisfy my own conscience. I know I will be able to wake up the next day and look at my self in the mirror. I will never have to live with regret for sitting by uselessly and not doing a thing. I have endured and suffered incredible pain in service to others. I have suffered a great deal for my own personal convictions and beliefs. I have had to deal with those who would rather not have outspoken minorities who live with out any fear or submission. I have endured broken noses, broken bones, beatings, thrashings, stabbings, and all manner of horrible things, and never once did I give the people that did those things a moments satisfaction by crying out or breaking down or submitting to their will.

I would much rather never have a moments violence. I would much rather not have a single shred of pain or discomfort. I would very much like it if people got along and everybody treated everybody with a measure of respect and dignity.

But that will never happen.

I am most greatful that my upbringing has allowed me to endure what I have gone through. I am thankful that all the lumps I took as a kid made me find out the measure of my self as a man so that I know that I can endure doing the right thing, which is seldom ever easy. I take pride in the fact that in a crisis, I can and will take charge and I WILL get results and that I have the power and authority to look after the needs of others and keep them safe. Or at least try to. I am thankful that even though I know fear, and might be scared witless, I know that I will survive and I can press on inspite of whatever terror I may feel, because serving others is more important than serving self.

Coddling snot nosed little whelps does not make men and women that this world needs right now. Things are worse than ever. Moral character is in decline.

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quote:
Originally written by Frosted Cryodrayks:

DV, this is really a new side of you we're seeing. I would never have expected such a passionate outburst from you on this issue.
Does it make you think any less of me? Or do you like this side?

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The kids that beat up the bullies don't wind up stuck in offices as drones. No, they usually OWN the office. Or have no use for it at all.

That is the whole point. Most of them go on to live good lives... And do something meaningful.

And you are correct. Violence doesn't solve much. I am, for the most part, a pacifist. I do not believe in unneeded violence. I wont do a lot to defend my self now. Others however, women, children, people that can not defend themselves, agressors beware. I have no moral objections to breaking a leg and then spending an hour lecturing the person why I had to break one of their bones, and why they can not go around doing what they do with out running in to consequences one day.

I also do things like open doors for women, offer a lady my coat if she is cold, offer my seat when there is no where to sit, things like that. Things that people for some reason frown upon in this day and age.

And on rainy days always carry an umbrella that I don't mind giving away in the event of a woman in need.

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I grew up a minority. I didn't have white skin to give me a free ride through life.

Take that statement however you will.

Oppression takes submission and a slave mentality. I have neither.

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Sounds like an endless parade of "yes men" are being produced by today's mollycoddling nanny state.

The bullies have won. They are the nannies. Your whole life is being plotted out and planned, and your every action is being controlled. The bullies don't even have to beat up your children any more, they have you to do it for them. The fear you live in and carefully instill in your child will cripple them, take away their humanity, and make them worthless and weak. Spineless. They wont make nary a peep out of fear of rocking the boat. And in turn, they will raise children even more cowardly and craven than the previous generation. Control. Conformity. Submission. Salmon gets it. I think he understands the system and how it works.

And no, I wasn't talking about high school age kids. Heck, I can remember some of the stuff that happened in grade school.

Stew Boy, do not take this wrong, but you have been programmed well. You are a drone. You could have fought back when it mattered. You could have resisted. You could have done the right thing, and didn't. And you will spend the rest of your life living with what you didn't do and the consequences of your (lack) of actions. Keep telling your self what ever day time talk show psychobabble you like to hear and reconfirming the fact that you kept your little rowboat gloriously steady.

Adversity is the key to human existence. It is the only way we gain true strength. To know suffering, to know pain, to struggle, that is the only path to wisdom. In this age, we are running out of Jesus figures... Malcolm X figures. Martin Luther King figures. Ghandi figures. As each generation becomes more and more pussified, we will see fewer and fewer of these types of men because the conditions that create them are being scrubbed away by the forces in control, and the forces in control DO NOT WANT these sorts of figures rising up and saying "no." They would rather have the endless parade of yes men that they are creating. We are losing our Hunter S Thompson types, our weirdos and crazies. Our anti establishment non conformists.

I knew the world was going to hell when I started seeing 9 and 10 year old kids peddling around with training wheels still on their bikes, so encumbered with so many pads and body armor and oversized helmets that they could barely move or peddle.

A lot of people are going to hate me for this post. A lot of folk are going to think things that they have no courage to say. I expect some whining... My last few posts got them. A few of you might get it though. I can only hope.

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quote:
Originally written by The Stew Boy:

quote:
Originally written by Delicious Vlish:

Now, everybody is a bunch of pussified nancies.
I disagree. Kids, even adults shouldn't be made to suffer pain (physical or emotional) without being able to put a stop to it if they can. They can live perfectly good lives without all that. 'Going all soft' isn't necessarily a bad thing.
And I'm speaking as a kid who has recieved plenty of bullying at school. There is no shame in telling somebody about it who can put a stop to it.

And anyway, if I'd lived in those days, I'd never have survived a week at school. Although I do agree banning Tag is going a bit far.

And I strongly disagree. While I do not agree with bullies, I do not believe in mollycoddling a child. You let them take their lumps. None of this helicopter parent crap.

I was the kid that beat up the bullies in school. Fight back. Bullies can't bully others when you break their pinkies or smash their fingers repeatedly in a locker door. Humiliate them. Crush them. Grind them under your heel in public and let everybody see them for what they are. Cowards. If somebody jumped me, I'd never let it go unsettled. I'd come back with a bat or a tire iron if I had to.

Big difference between kids being kids and bullies being bullies... We would do the whole two for flinching thing as friends. Bloody noses were common and it was nothing personal. It was a safe way to learn how to fight, and fight well, and it was the duty of a good friend to exchange lumps. It was just what you did. You gave each other black eyes and fat lips and then you'd go and buy cokes for a nickle or a dime and sit back and laugh about it. And when the time came when it was the real thing, you knew what you were doing in a scrap. None of this sissy slap fighting.

Bare knuckle boxing was a popular school yard activity when I was a boy.

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When I was a kid, we played cops and robbers or cowboys and indians with real BB guns. And shot each other. (No shooting in the face obcenity obcenity obcenity) We didn't wear helmets. If you did get banged up and had a cut or some road rash, you damn sure didn't do so much as sniffle or whine about it. Mom or dad would give you something to whine about, like a belt up along your backside. And then they would get the iodine to pour in to your cut. So if you did get horribly mutilated, you didn't dare say anything... You bit your lip and you stayed quiet about it. We played dodge ball and tether ball and did our best to give each other bloody noses and black eyes. We had hurts donuts and gave two for flinching. Only back in my day, two for flinching was usually a punch in the stomach followed by an uppercut to the jaw. And if you were dumb enough to fall for it, you deserved it and nobody felt sorry for you including the old hag that was the school nurse. "Next time don't flinch you big blubbering baby!" We would go around and ask "what is the capital of Thailand?" And then you would say "Bangkok" as you gave somebody a swift kick in the nuts. There was no running off and telling the teacher or an adult. You settled your scores like men. You'd either kick the crap out of somebody or you would be the person everybody else was beating the crap out of.

Those were unkind times, but they made hard men. Now, everybody is a bunch of pussified nancies.

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I am a damnable dispicable anarchist.

Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

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My cousin the Wooly Vlish lives with all those penguins.

Hairy tentacles. Ugh.

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Vatican?

And here I was thinking "Jonestown" because of the whole mind control thing.

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**Twists tentacle in to a question mark**

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I'll stick a tentacle out and mention what the big change was for me.

I was able to summon a Fyora, a cryoa, a vlish, a battle alpha, and a plated clawbug.

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Sounds incredibly insipid and lame. Not to mention a complete ripoff of already existing games.

How meaningless.

Try your own material.

And Xeon? Come on. How oringal can you be? You didn't even try to come up with anything new and different... Why on earth would these people logically name themselves "Xeon." They do not come from a planet named Xeon. They obviously do not have computer processors named Xeon. There is no basis in their manufactured reality to called themselves Xeon. At least go for something a bit more classical or imaginative and not an ultra modern computer buzzword that has no place in archaic realms. How trite.

Avernites? Come on. Plain vanilla fantasy stuff there, nothing special. If you are going to rip somebody off, do the whole drow elf cliche or something.

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I may be a bit rogue posting this after Shaper Stareye said his piece, but this thread deals with copyright infringement and discusion of a form of theft. Which does not fly here. So I am going to nail this thread with a submission bolt from the ol' central tentacle. Also, this thread really serves no purpose. Any talk of playing a lower life form (servile) should be done in the G4 section of the board where it belongs.

**fires green ray**

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I don't think I am allowed to say it. Non disclosure.

For three games, how and what you shaped was the same. Now, it is very different.

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Also, there is a BIG change in shaping too.

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He has, but it does not change the fact that Magic Shaping in general offers more bang for the buck than any other type of shaping. Artillas with acid damage, vlish with slowing and stunning, glaahks and their stingers, a new creation, eyebeasts and gazers. Well, the last two are somewhat over rated.

That said, battle creations are no longer quite so hobbled, and violence really DOES solve everything in a pinch. Battle creations also tend to be cheaper on essence costs, so a guardian type has lots of reasons to use them now. You can go and just beat the bejeezus out of everything and any one in sight and Vlish be damned. It will be harder, for the lack of good ancillary effects, but there is a great feeling of tactical joy in uncontrolled combat. You can overrun your foes in swarms of plated bugs that get 10 action points and with the new action point system, they are exceptionally dangerous creations now.

Yeah, Jeff really did do a good job.

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Terror Vlish are overpowered in G1. They allow you to roam through any area of the game killing at will while taking no damage. Monsters run in to corners and suck their thumbs... And do not defend themselves at all.

One Vlish all by its lonesome isn't all that impressive, but whole packs are terrible. Shuts down monster packs.

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quote:
Originally written by Archimandrite Micawber:

Yes that's a point, is it still the case that vlish are over-powered in GF4? They are ridiculously effective in the trilogy.
I am not so sure I can answer that. I know we talk about some parts of G4 here, but because of non disclosure agreements, I don't know if I can address specific things.

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If I could make just one wish, I would want a tasty vlish.

Geneforge IV. Still no tasty vlish.
Posts: 1104 | Registered: Tuesday, February 12 2002 08:00

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