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No matter what BoA designers do, no matter how impressive the effort is, no matter how high of a CSR score it gets, oldbies will just say "Oh, there's no way that's better than (insert BoE scenario title here)"

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Or even better, "Give up now and go back to BoE... don't waste your time on a dying system"

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Originally written by ef:

So, those of us who don't agree that this hack'n slash be called Avernum 4, we better shut up?

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Originally written by Slartucker:

Since this post appears to be sticking around:

I'm with Jeff on this one.

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Originally written by Eating My Food:

Avernum 4 = Avernum 3 + Geneforge engine - surface - plot - fun - originality - decent graphics - cojones

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Originally written by Slartucker:

I get the feeling that, were E3 actually to show up as a BoE scenario, it would get very high marks (9.0ish) simply because, for all its annoying flaws, it's still better crafted and more fun than 90% of the scenarios out there.

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The standards seem a lot higher for BoA scenarios

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Originally written by Slartucker:

I'll start. My favorite thing is definitely the unlimited bow ammunition, which makes archery the powerful tool it deserves to be.

— Slartucker, who felt like being positive this evening

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Originally written by sherbiebaby:

Living forever seems like hell to me.
(besides, its not natural, man)
Live for today, die for tomorrow, love yourself, love others, be happy in the eternal bliss of the happy soul.

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If almost all productive work is handled by machines, many arguments against equally distributed wealth - such as the motivational force of greed - become irrelevant, since the rich won't work anyway.

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TM, believing that the world sucks and isn't going to get much better in the foreseeable future is only "defeatism" if you care about making the world a better place. If that's not your goal, then you haven't been defeated if it turns out to be unachievable.

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We may therefore conclude that making the world a better place is a poor goal to pick for oneself.

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As always, Is is strong and Should is weak, and even to say that Should should be stronger is to show weakness.

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I can't wait to see what new and wonderful things are keeping everybody miserable 50 years from now.

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I certainly don't want the plot of the Geneforge series to stagnate.

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Exile 3 was once again a new type of game (mystery with a combination of some plot and much free exploration).

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The reason using same story over and over doesn't work for Spidweb games is that people play them for the story.

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Okay, so this sucks. Has anything else actually worked better so far?

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It's necessary for you to seriously consider and address the possibility that humanity is in fact inherently and irreparably horrible, and that the best anyone can hope for is to stay at the top of the heap instead of the bottom.

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Whether or not it's their fault, they still can't pay for the product, to put it simply, if you can't pay for a pizza, are you going to get a pizza?

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The "vastly superior and incalcuably more expensive education" is irrelevant.

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If scientists provide a substance that will allow people to live forever, it's not the inherent right of the people who who purchased it, it's something they've bought.

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If I may use another commonplace example, are you born with the guarantee that you will own a car or do you have to buy one in order to own it?

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If you were too broke to afford immortality though, you could get a whopping big loan and pay it off over the next 200 years. :)

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As for CEOs, well, if they can keep their jobs for centuries without their shareholders voting them out or their company going out of business, they're obviously doing something right.

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What I said was that something you weren't born with (and you are born with life, otherwise you wouldn't be around to think long enough to have an opinion on anything,) can and should be bought.

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Originally written by Kingy:

Come on baby, I'm sure we can work something out.

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Sorry dude, but you are Not A Hot Chick.

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This coming from someone who is so insecure as to require insulting everyone at every chance he gets?

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Yeah yeah, we know you hate everyone and everything, we know you love to insult people for stupid reasons, just shut up already TM.

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Actually, I'm proclaiming to large numbers of bystanders that myself and everyone in the group of bystanders is better than him.

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Sure, he becomes background static after a while, but background static is still annoying.

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I would suggest that it is. No one else has mocked someone else's religion in this thread.

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Originally written by Slartucker:

...and sometimes insulting them.

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Religion: Aestheist

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Religion: Baptist

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