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Displayed name	The Immortal
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Title	BANNED
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Registered	Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00

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suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Thursday, October 16 2003 03:20 Profile Homepage #78 I agree with what's being said, but an interesting observation of what Ironweed said- I noticed you used 'her' and 'herself'. I wasn't particularily disturbed or insulted, but it did manage to stand out from the rest of your paragraph, for some reason, most likely because I almost never hear it used. (Usually, it's either 'him' and 'himself' or 'one' and 'one's self'.) -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Wednesday, October 15 2003 17:03 Profile Homepage #73 I'm immensely disappointed in Djur. I'm also not particularily surprised- if someone doesn't get your point, you might as well toss illogical comments about their failure and shy away from actually trying to express your beliefs. If any of you would like to adopt his point for him, feel free to do so. I'm still interested in understanding it, which is a trait that does not fit me at the moment. quote: Originally written by Stughalf: I do not support an actual, real-life law banning euthanasia. My opinions on the subject do not include "forcing" suffering people to live through hours of pain until they can die naturally. If you read my first post on the subject, you will see that I expressly stated that if someone is terminally ill and recovery is impossible, that person should indeed be euthanized. I simply do not support assisted suicide or euthanasia when the situation can possibly be resolved or improved by other means. So essentially, you're saying: We will always know if a person "can possibly be resolved or improved by other means". This is wrong and an attack on the solvency of your proposal because of borderline cases- someone will have to make the decision at some point, and that person may not always be right, subjecting a person to what you said you believe as unnecessary pain. (I skipped your middle paragraph, because you're essentially repeating yourself, and I couldn't really derive any clear points in it.) quote: In terms of the principle of the sanctity of human life, that is something that I believe in very strongly. In the real world however, that principle is already on its last legs. A few euthanasias admittedly can do little more to weaken a principle that has already nearly been smashed to bits by the sheer number of lives taken in the many worthless conflicts our world endured last century and continues to endure. But euthanasia does indeed have an effect on the principle, though this effect is largely symbolic. My point is not to make it impossible or illegal for the terminally ill to be euthanized. My sole purpose with these posts is to convey the danger involved in making such decisions based solely on one's individual pain and suffering. No one wants to see a world where a human life is worth no more than the ground he walks on. No one wants to see a world where civil rights are worth no more than the ground their bearers walk upon. If you want to live in a world where your safety is given more priority than your ability to CHOOSE your own safety, that's tossing civil rights out of the window. You're saying that essentially, as long as you can do the RIGHT choice (and might I add, by adopting this term, your argument crumbles by its imperceptible subjectivity), you must do that choice. But seeing as you used this paragraph to backstep quickly into a "greater scheme" argument (and essentially saying you don't care about euthenasia by saying it has no real impact at this point), I'll adress that. Your main point of what I could gather is that life should be respected- I agree, but you neglected to appreciate choice. I'm against the death penalty, war, non-pacifism and some such, but if I'm not allowed to do as I please within the boundaries of not harming others, then hand me the dagger and let me end it with my own hands as a last request. In summation, I disagree with your euthenasia arguments on principle and by its lack of solvency, but I agree with your life being important statement (which really aught to have been said sooner), although I place a far greater emphasis on choice. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Wednesday, October 15 2003 14:13 Profile Homepage #65 God. You mindlessly charge into the same argument I made in my last post, and then you fail to clarify your side of the debate. I'd like to think you could do better than this. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Wednesday, October 15 2003 13:21 Profile Homepage #61 Djur- Personal insults aren't necessary. I know this may be a foreign concept and whatnot, but pointing out my flaws as a flaw of my ideas is like discrediting liberalism because Bill got fellatio in office. And besides, I've stated multiple times that anger gets the best of me. I don't care what people do on their own time, but when they interrupt what I'm trying to get done, they're less than worthless to me, and at that point I seek to rectify the situation. If anything, my anger is a lack of foresight. And it's getting better- normally, your obviously illogical and poorly thought through insults would have me spewing a blue streak on these here boards. As for the rest of your post? I have no friggin' clue what the hell I just read. I'm sure you're trying to get some sort of logical point across, I just don't get it. Repeat yourself. ---- Stughalf- I'm afraid you're not adressing my points. What makes your argument that some abstract notion is violated if a person is euthenized. What makes my (and Alorael's) argument is that actual people are being violated. In my eyes, the most real, pressing and human concern is that someone is in pain. Allowing euthenasia adresses this. Forbidding it does not. An argument takes place in an abstraction (Djur, take note of this). Its strength, however, is how it applies to real people. You have failed to prove how your position does such. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Wednesday, October 15 2003 12:21 Profile Homepage #55 You disagree with euthenasia? You disagree with a terminally ill person in such pain that living itself is NOT WORTH the physical torture they go through on a daily basis wanting to end their miserable, tortured existence? I'd like to think most people wouldn't have the gall to cry to a person from some self-righteous mountain that their life isn't bad enough, but that's what your arguments boil down to- you're saying that, for some abstract and distanced reason, someone cannot morally relieve themselves of extreme pain because the abstract reasons distanced from man take priority over the real, physical, extreme suffering of human beings. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Wednesday, October 15 2003 05:36 Profile Homepage #51 I was preaching to Djur in the second part of my post, in case you didn't get that. Goddammit! It was early in the morning then! -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Wednesday, October 15 2003 03:48 Profile Homepage #48 quote: Originally written by The Lined Paper Man: We need a proper controlled study. Someone go have sex with 10 people you're in love with and then have sex with 10 people you're not in love with, and compare the experiences. Do us all a favor, and don't offer extraneous arguments. Djur wasn't claiming that sex is ENHANCED by emotion- I really don't care enough to disagree with him (or you) on that one. He was claiming that sex IS an expression of emotion, which I disagree with wholemindedly (awkward wording intended). -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
kobalds, Rakshasi and Beholders, i wonder what is everybodies favorout RPG monster in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Wednesday, October 15 2003 03:44 Profile Homepage #19 quote: Originally written by Saishuu Heiki Custer: TM, your ideas about the Rakshasi are insane by any reasonable standard. According to the myths Jeff took them from and the way they acted in the game itself, their lifestyle is completely inconsistent with a group which would find communism to be a beneficial state of affairs. They're epicurianism manifested in flesh. Stop trying to paint them red. Who said they aren't epicurianist? I just said that they're communally epicurianist. Pleasures of the flesh can be enjoyed by all without DEACON ^_^ interfering. And even if they might want something more pleasurable to the flesh, they at least realize that when they aren't politically vigilant, then they become victims of auto-genocide again. By the philosophies of their mythology which they started with millenia ago, they'd have never thought of starting a leftist, liberal democracy. Threat of genocide (which has almost happened at least two times even DURING the reign of the gov't, even if both were spearheaded by Deacon), however, is something that should spark any creature with two brain cells to rub together to think things through a bit. Living together and perhaps enjoying less luxuries is better than being dead and most definitely enjoying no luxuries. (And really, one of the contributing factors to Black Friday was because there were absolutely no luxuries for the oppressed under Tigerfang, Deacon & co. If they would have made a more luxurious life for the people, then Black Friday might have been a loss for Olindbar I & co.) -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
kobalds, Rakshasi and Beholders, i wonder what is everybodies favorout RPG monster in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, October 14 2003 16:54 Profile Homepage #14 Motrax? The Rakshasi are dirty communists. Sorry. The Rakshasi seen in Exile are a remnant of the dirty Fascists who ruled over the Rakshasi on Vantanas +1,000 years ago. The main group of Rakshasi live in the cavernous universe of Arngoth where, Deacon I aside, they all live in peace and hapiness without property and some such under the rule of Olindbar II. (I can go into great detail about this if you really want.) -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, October 14 2003 16:48 Profile Homepage #44 quote: Originally written by Morgan: The sad thing is that until a year ago, I agreed with TM on the point that emotions suck. ...apostate. Honestly, how can you people trust those around you so willingly? I'll never understand, nor will I ever want to. And just for clarification, what part of sexual pleasure is emotional, and in what way(s)? I'd like to argue against this viewpoint, but I can't do that until I have some understanding of whatever the hell it is being said. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
kobalds, Rakshasi and Beholders, i wonder what is everybodies favorout RPG monster in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, October 14 2003 09:19 Profile Homepage #4 I like the Rakshasi, Illithids and Sylvians (as if it really needed saying). -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
DOES YUO THINK THAT YOU CAN RP?!? in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, October 14 2003 03:28 Profile Homepage #4 Feran, I don't think you'd want the kind of RP'ers that participate in the average topic on these boards. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Spiderweb Boards Demographics in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, October 14 2003 03:27 Profile Homepage #7 ...lumping all of the ages from 14-26 is a decidedly bad idea. Sorry. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
I have an intriguing question for my fellow Spidweb users in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Sunday, October 12 2003 09:08 Profile Homepage #46 I like to have sex with myself. Does that make me auto-sexual? @ -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Sunday, October 12 2003 08:34 Profile Homepage #30 Khoth- I meant to say "satiating" curiosity, but it was early, and the part of my brain that manages rhetoric was down. —_— Djur- Saying all sex is emotional to someone who aims to remove emotions and enjoys his hand vigorously is trying to convince a female that all women are brainless animals. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Sunday, October 12 2003 06:41 Profile Homepage #24 quote: Originally written by Onan the Barbarian: *TM, we've been over this before, and the rest of us have concluded that we have no idea why you* would want to live. Emotionless pleasures- and there are plenty. Sex, drugs, rock'n'roll, anime, computer games, good-tasting things, intellectual curiosities and the elimination thereof, physical exercizes, etc... If I wasn't enjoying anything in this life, then I might contemplate auto-removal (euphemism of the day), but as it stands, that just doesn't seem like the most entertaining option. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00**
suicide methodes in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Saturday, October 11 2003 21:19 Profile Homepage #15 I have no idea why anyone would want to die. Then again, I also have no idea why anyone would want to have emotions. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Top 10 Annoying Bastards in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Thursday, October 9 2003 03:33 Profile Homepage #1 1) You 2) Yourself 3) That which you enjoy vigorously 4) The person who started this topic 5) Annoying brats from Finland 6) Yam Sthruss 7) The Loopback Guy 8) Member #3121 9) Let it be known that I rule the school. 10) And last but not least, TGM ...honestly. Was this topic REALLY necessary? -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
You can keep your hat on in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Thursday, October 9 2003 03:28 Profile Homepage #1 OMG, best title ever. I'm curious, though- is there a naked, phallic object-wielding swordswoman graphic like there is in Avernum? -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Memories... (the sequel) in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Thursday, October 9 2003 03:27 Profile Homepage #4 ...up with the sag! I've been here around three friggin' years, and I can't think of a better term to describe the experience that wouldn't get me banned. -_- -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
Questions in desperate need of answering! in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, October 7 2003 03:24 Profile Homepage #18 1) I'm IMed plenty of times, but fail to see the need to IM anyone. 2) Well, it's not frigid in the Shire, and I'm not sure that Frodo and crew would have time to knit themselves a new fuggin' wardrobe, so I guess they'd have to make do with what they have. 3) Here you go, I have just paid you ten megabajillionty dollars! HOORAY I ma samrt now oh yes I am! 4) Zephyr has made worse. 5) Classic Rock, Disco, older Soul/Funk, J-pop (sadly, I'm hooked ;_; ), etc. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
1yr Anniversary! in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, October 7 2003 03:17 Profile Homepage #14 UP WITH THE GOAT SEX! ^_~;; -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
A Silly Idea that will never take off... but If i get rich I'll fund it in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Tuesday, October 7 2003 03:12 Profile Homepage #20 thuryl sez : i am busy fighting the zombie ^________________________^ -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
HaRd CoR3 graphic artist's wanted!! in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Monday, October 6 2003 13:03 Profile Homepage #6 -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00
How old are you? in General
The Immortal BANNED Member # 4	written Sunday, October 5 2003 17:59 Profile Homepage #5 quote: Originally written by Ultimate Weapon Custer: One hundred and sixty-four. He's 16, as am I. -------------------- We're all amazed but not amused By all the things that you said you'd do. You're much concerned but not involved by Decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song, Telling us how you are going to change right from wrong, 'Cause if you really want to hear our views, You haven't done nothin'. Posts: 6936 \| Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00

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