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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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quote:
Originally written by Safey:

[QUOTE]The point is you have no proof that the Drakons will stop makeing unbound after the war is over. They will mostly likely keep them around to enforce their own rule.
Are you daft? The Unbound are incredibly powerful, and only the creme de la creme of the Drakons can control them, people like Ghaldring and Akhari Blaze. Having a huge army of Unbound just waiting for someone to slip up would be death waiting to happen, and require their strongest leaders to devote all of their time to restraining them. Making the Unbound also requires a lot of time and resources on behalf of the Drakons. It simply isn't feasible unless on the brink of destruction.

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Originally written by Khai of Khem:

The areas of Drakon concentration are fortresses, Goldy, and while a siege might starve them out, the Drakons definitely have a man-to-man advantage. They are equal or only slightly less in numbers than the other Rebels, and they can Shape as well. There are a few mighty beings on the Eastern Rebels' side that can kill Drakons, but the average foot soldier doesn't stand a chance. And the average foot soldier for the Drakons is a Drakon. Or at least another high-level creation, a War Trall or Rotghroth.

Repeated barrages of creations won't work, as Drakons can Shape as well, and all that would be accomplished would be a repeat of the Fens, with nothing but creations dying until either side makes a move.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that they aren't equal to the humans, drayks, and serviles in number. But you're right, they are focused in fortresses, and the average soldier is much stronger. Besides, if brutal rebellion doesn't tickle your fancy, the others can just starve out the Drakons. From my experience, they have the farming skills of a toad. Same goes with the Unbound; without Serviles working the machine, you don't have any Unbound.

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Ex, no one here is saying that we should repeal the second amendment, or make it illegal to own a gun. We're talking about restrictions on guns. Tests, waiting periods, fees, taxes, character witnesses, phasing out certain arms (rocket launchers, for example), and other things.

ET, I said alcohol directly. Like drinking yourself to death, or something. The extent of the deaths caused indirectly from alcohol is immeasurable, with things that one would or wouldn't do if sober making up a large gray zone. So I'll stick to direct alcohol deaths.

ER, I don't like that. I mean, mandatory military service? That's the only way to give back to your country? I like Obama's idea better, making kids do charity work for the Peace Corps, Elderly Death Houses, et cetera. That's something I could get behind more than mandatory military service.

Alorael and Drew, I agree most whole-heartedly.

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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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quote:
Originally written by Khai of Khem:

You forget, the Drakons are more or less focused in a particular area. If they were spread out, with other Rebels interspersed with them, the Rebelling Rebels might win. If the Unbound are created, all is more or less lost, as they apparently spread over most, if not all of the land outside of direct Drakon control.

Mighty Lifecrafters can kill Drakons, yes. But Drakons can also kill Lifecrafters. And the Drakons have the advantage of number by far, even if the canister-mad Lifecrafters don't side with them. The Human, Drayk, and Servile Rebellion doesn't stand a chance against or without the Drakons, plain and simple.

I believe that the Drakons took the Unbound to the Western Morass, and said: "Go West". West being to the ends of Terrestia, possibly the other continent if they're something of a Asia-Africa connection, pre-Suez. Anyways, the Unbound are going far away, and not coming back. Most likely fighting until the last one dies. Meanwhile, the Drakons are weakened without a new generation of Unbound to make. Rebels from all over, and I suppose Trakovites and a few Shapers, would be able to attack the Drakons. Also, according to some Drakon or another, the humans would be brought into the Grayghosts for protection. So there you go.

Quessa-Uss and Northforge have the highest Drakon concentration, and they're both isolated. Rebellion in Khima-Uss and Gesselin Freehold would be vital. I think, if rapid enough, Khima-Uss could kill the handful of Drakons in their midst, and divide the Grayghosts. Gesselin Freehold and Frostwood could effectively isolate Northforge, where wave after wave of creations, Rotghroths and the like, could be sent to kill the Drakons. Quessa-Uss could be similarily taken.

Anyways, there is a chance that the Drakons can be destroyed. Not really sure about the Ashen Isles though.

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Did we stop making nukes after WW2? The shapers getting more liberal is a several century trend the ending of the war is simply a set back. If the war goes on long enough then the conservative shapers won't have the might to make things harsher. This why I can understand the trakovites have a temporary victory. This war increases the powers of the moderate shapers while decreaseing the power of the moderate rebels.
What does making nukes after WWII have to do with anything?

Yes. A several century trend, very slowly as they felt their subjects could be trusted. Besides, it states explicitely in the Shaper text that the Shapers crack down harshly on their creations. You can even see it in game, where the Shapers start using brainwashed Serviles, far less intelligent than any of the other Serviles in any of the other games. If you go with the Shaper ending, the Great Eastern Rebellion basically ends, and the Ashen Isles are left as a temporary freehold. So, the Shapers winning at this point might as well just be setting back the trend quite a bit.

[ Thursday, February 14, 2008 17:02: Message edited by: Goldenking ]

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ET, that's not necessarily true. Guns can kill a man, and it's is very hard for alcohol to kill a man directly. Also, since guns are relatively easy to get at this time, making it harder to get one would help reduce violence. Tormented teens would not have to just steal their folk's gun to kill his demons, drunkard men would not be able to simply buy a gun to kill their abused wife, gang violence would dip due to guns being more expensive to get illegally, et cetera. At the very least, it might buy enough time to resolve the issues before they get lethal.

Besides, the gov't could make a tidy profit from taxing guns more heavily.

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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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quote:
Originally written by Khai of Khem:

While Nalyd would promote a harmony for all of the intelligent creations and humans(Arguably also intelligent creations, see The G1 Secret), there is little chance for one resulting from this war. If the Shapers win, it will be harsher Shaper rule. If the Rebels win, it will be harsher Drakon dictatorship.
Yes, but if the Rebels win, there is still a chance that freedom can be won. The Drayks are unified in their hatred, and Gesselin Freehold has already shown this up front. Many Serviles, like those at Khima-Uss, are also disenfranchised with the Drakon oligarchy. The Humans resent being shut out of their own Rebellion so decisively. And when the Drakons extend themselves over everything, they will recieve resistance. Mighty lifecrafters have shown they can kill even mighty Drakons like Salassar. Without Servile mechanics doing vital work, the Drakons can't rapidly make Unbound. Rebellion within and without of the Grayghosts will have Northforge and Quessa-Uss fall, if not suffer staggering casualties. The Ashen Isles would suffer similar losses as well. From there, the Drakons will either be put in their place, be eradicated, or suffer a massive pyrhhic victory. Or, a new Salassar will rise and the Drakons will become isolationist, and form a northern nation free from the others.

So their is hope. With the Great Eastern Rebellion squashed, there isn't much at all.

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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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quote:
Originally written by Safey:

Will one thing I noticed is the longer this war goes on the more of the original values both sides have to give. So theoretically if the war goes on long enough their idealogical could reverse.

Also to note the shapers have been loosening their laws for centuries, admittedly very slowly. When you go to the abandon fighting arena on Sucia Isle your character makes a comment that the shapers have long forbidden this barbaric practice. So I put forward the shapers would have grown more liberal as time progressed without the war. The war only speed up things.

The War's effects only go on as long as the war does. In the Shaper ending, they crack down immensely, and the creations are even worse off than before.

And I highly doubt the Rebels are going to continue launching wave after wave of Unbound if they win. The Drakons don't like being with the "inferior" sides of the Rebellion, meaning that the Serviles, Drakons, Drayks, and Humans would all form into different countries, with Humans and Serviles sticking together, and the Drayks having a few citizens in the Human/Servile Nation.

Of course, that's basically speculation.

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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Originally by Nalyd:

quote:
True, but the Shapers have been showing an increasingly moderate trend.
But the Shapers are only moderating because of the war. (Or, more accurately, because they risk losing the war.) Without the war, they'd be the same as ever. If they win the war before the moderation goes mainstream, they'll go back to the way they were.

Dikiyoba.

Edit: Quote for new page.

So true. The Shaper ending for G4 even states that once the Shapers win, they crack down harshly on society. The reforms during the seven years of war are ended, and to prevent another war they get even worse. For example, Serviles become brainwashed into not having any real thought, and just doing what they're told to. Before, this was seen as impractical due to the trade off in labor, but now the Shapers would do anything to crush the Rebellion.

If the Shapers win, their is even less hope of change than before. If the Rebels win, their is a chance that the Drakons can be overturned, and the idealistic Rebellion society lived out.

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The Avernum RP, OoC Thread in General
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quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

So... can I conquer some of your land while your gone? You're pretty powerful right now anyway. I promise I won't go beyond... Almaria?
Or how about I just flood the Honeycomb with Non-Humans who've been Exiled from the Surface? Once Din't gets the portals functioning, that is. That would resolve that nicely.

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The Avernum RP, IC Thread in General
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Silvar

The gates were opened, and the phalanx marched in triumphantly. Raining on their parade, the soldiers charged desperately, in a last stand sort of way. Pity they didn't know about Hunter military tactics. In this narrow corridor, the Hunters raised their sheilds in a nigh impenetrable wall of wood and metal, and their spears were brought into attack position. The poles of wood and steel lunged forth purposefully at the charging Imperials, soon becoming red with blood. That is not to say that, in the initial charge, some lives were not lost, but it was saying that the charge was mostly suicidal.

Meanwhile, on the south side of the city, a small elite task force of fifty men crept into the city, while the attention was on the northern assault. The sheer power of the assault should insure that there contributions were not needed, but you could never tell when a good flanking was needed...

New Sumar

After the charred ruins had been inspected, Meineke left the same way he came, by boat. Tossing a final, explosive fireball into the burnt out shell of a village, his ship sailed purposefully to his next assignment: The Sanctuary. Eventually, when the war ended, the Hunters would use the ruins to build up a refugee settlement, but until then, New Sumar had outlived its purposes.

Perrin

Those who resisted were killed. Those who were at arms were killed. Those soldiers who didn't surrender were killed. Yet the rest, they were spared.

And so, the entire remaining population was taken out. Everything of the Empire was taken, and burned. Flags, symbols, accounts ledgers, law codes, and many other things, with a few exceptions like military tactics. The bodies of the dead were thrown into the inferno too, and as the stunned crowds turned away, they were lead into the town hall, where a small garrison was left behind. The rest took to their horses, and with their wolf pack set out to Pergies.

Pergies

Their lives were forfeit, and they died desperately in the mines, struggling to reopen the passage to the surface. Miner's picks, spears as levers, and more were utilized to try and move the boulders, but it was hopeless. With the miners impeding their efforts until their last death, they worked up a lot of breathing and sweat. Eventually, when the last miner died, they did make some major progress, but the last one died of suffocation just as a crack in the wall of stone let air back into the mines.

Meanwhile, on the fields, the catapults dueled. Soldiers rapidly supplied boulders from the Pergha mountains to throw at the catapult, and the larger buildings. The men were scattered, using their slings, crossbows, and javelins to their full advantage. As attacks from the Pergians came at them in force, the Hunters simply hid behind walls of metal and wood, their sheilds. When a bit of masonry was flung from the catapult, people scattered. When that bit of masonry was arcing towards the catapult, a mage would take special effort to blast it away, or apart.

Then, like the horsemen of hell, the Perrinian conquerers came unto the city. They again pulled out their mighty bows, and began sending powerful projectiles into the city. As the horses pounded near the walls of the city, they begin encircling the square, shooting anyone they saw on the walls, as well as sending arrows deeper into the city. From this point, they were relatively safe from the catapult, too close for the catapult to hit them. The wolves charged, filled with the bloodlust, to the gates, pushing at them, clawing at them, and trying to dig their way under them.

Delis

The mighty wooden mounts on the sea fought back. The catapults were timed off into groups, so that at any point in time there were rocks being thrown into the air at the city. A similiar method was utilized with the mighy ballistae, and both systems were firing at the sources of fire. Small arms, crossbows and the like, were mostly abandoned, as sailors now scrambled about madly to put out any fire the moment it landed. The sails were swiftly put down, and those that were burnt were dipped in water and used to combat other flames. Mages on the fleet redirected water from the sea to the air in an attempt to defeat the fire bolts, and they had some success.

Delan

"I tell you now, Dervish, that you will rue the day that you imprisoned the Ambassador! Just look to the skies!" Curious, the guards and Victor turned their eyes skyward. Fortunately for Barleycorn, the smoke of the battle scenes had not yet reached Delan. Dismissed as crazed, the guards threw Barleycorn into an empty cell, under constant surveillance. Little did they know, he had a dagger in his boot. How that would come into play was unknown, for now.

Crystal Caravan

Eventually, after a night at Farport, the Dominioners and their precious crystals arrived in the ruins of Nexus in a half-day, which was located in the Unicorn Pass. Military workers from Farport were now half heartedly building up the fort walls. The ruins of the city had been taken down, with the exception of Ernest's manor, and been used to build up the new structures of Fort Nexus. Captain Vidican showed the magi into the manor, and gave them a tour of what the Hunters had found.

OOC: I moved Ernest's hut a little to a more geographically sensible location.

Halfway between Softport and Sharimik

That same night, Meineke stepped onto the crisp shores of Karnold Province for the last time. Here, he drifted forth into the Sanctuary Lands, the wilderness. Here, he would make the Sanctuary Plagues, and the disease was just the start of it.

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What is evil in General
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quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

I love a good debate, I mean poll.

Too bad this isn't.

People who make bad polls are evil.

Thus endeth the debate.

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OOC: The Vale RP - II in General
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Jeran's post isn't canon. Yours and ET's are.

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What is evil in General
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Evil is nothing. Don't confuse that with nothing being evil. Evil simply doesn't exist. There are but actions, and what we make of those actions is subject to interpretation. Eating kittens to survive is, to some, evil, but once again, it is simply an action. Western culture maintained that slavery was acceptable for a long time, but today's society finds it absolutely reprehensible.

As I feel that Humans are naturally "evil", although I prefer "flawed"*, no I don't want a world without evil. Besides, then I wouldn't be able to eat kittens.

EDIT: If you're not going to make a good poll, don't bother. Same goes with posts and threads.

[ Tuesday, February 12, 2008 14:37: Message edited by: Goldenking ]

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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Trakovites.

No, actually the Rebels. Probably because of my disposition to the Awakened since G1. I suppose I'm just reconciling it as "agressive negotiation". Shapers are tyrannical. Idealists have no place in the world. Thus endeth my wondering on which side I want to win.

In other news, I've concluded that older members like myself are more likely to side with the Rebels, and the newer players with the Shapers. Because, even I will admit, the Shapers look very appealing as you wander around in G4. Same could be said of the Trakovites though. But they're idealists.

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[PPP] Alas, friends, we look toward uncertain times in General
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Perhaps you could split websites? Have, for example, the game forums on a different host then the rest of everything, and leave the links as redirects? I'm not sure which website would be willing to do this, maybe one of the Spidweb satellites.

Other than that, purge. There are plenty of things that could be done away with, if need be, like post-count and birthday celebrations, introductions, redundant game questions, and anything else that doesn't add to anything. Ads wouldn't be the greatest pitfall in the world, and they might work if you maximize the space you can work put them at, margins, headers, bottom space, et cetera. You're bright though. You'll come up with something.

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Should there be a big battle at the end of geneforge 5? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Having now been used in the successful A4, G4, and A5, I think the chapterized plot-dominated game is the new Spiderweb style. And I think it's here to stay. You can wander around within chapters, but you'll do so with a clear goal in mind, that will lead directly to the next chapter, and move you closer to the overall game goal. I think it must be so much easier to design a game this way, that Jeff just can't go back to the old sprawl style. But I think he has struck a good balance, by including enough freedom within each chapter that players stay happy and keep buying. And at least as far as I'm concerned, the plot-driven games have something big that G1 and A1 lacked: a story that's always in sight, rather than briefly flashing into view in occasional hints. So I'm happy with the change.
This is most assuredly the truth. I believe he even said something to that effect. Looking at the Avernum 5 map, I can say that this certainly looks like it from what I can ascertain. My only critique of the chapter system, something I liked from the earlier games, is that the completed sections were done. Unless you hadn't finished a minor quest in the region or there was an item quest, there was no reason to return to the previous regions. What I'd like is if Jeff incorporated some return value, say a refugee in G5 left an heirloom in a previous province or something. Basically, after a chapter is done, the region becomes basically useless.

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Spiderweb Demographics 2008 in General
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quote:
Originally written by Excalibur:

I wonder who here speaks Cantonese or Arabic, for Arabic is certainly a difficult second language.

Other gender identification? Does that denote a hermaphrodite, or someone with a deformed 23rd set of chromosomes?

Edit: 21st?
Edit2: 23st? Yikes! Two in row!

More like asexual, I'd have to assume. But those other's could apply, I suppose.

Anyways, I know bits and pieces of Greek and Latin.

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Getting political in General
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quote:
Originally written by BigHungryJoe:

My two cents (and no sense): anyone who actually wants to be a politician isn't worth voting for.

:D

Must resist... must resist... must, ahh! Resistance is futile!

"To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem.
" -The Restraunt at the End of the Universe, Hitchhiker's Trilogy, Douglas Adams

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Originally written by Nioca:

Goldenking: I guess one of the problems I have with it is that I can't do anything to affect their fate. I'd at least like the kit to make it.

Oh, and PM.

EDIT: I have a new gimmick for the Avernum RP. Watch the signature in my OoC posts for sneak peeks at my next IC.

Jake, Mrrphrrhrr the Third's son? Sure. He can develop a resistance to it, or something, and be the tool the clergy use to cure it. But he will be near death for a while.

Responded.

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What have you been reading lately? in General
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quote:
Originally written by Appleseed:

I'm reading poetry as a requirement of my English class. A whole boatload of Shakespeare and Poe. Frankly, I'd rather have a good novel, meaning no offense to poets reading this.
Tell me about it. We're just wrapping up poetry, three out of four weeks. Poe was okay, some of his poems seemed to focus more on rhythm than message though, and Shakespeare is a world away from today. Reading two of his sonnets, I had to struggle just to grasp a very weak feeling of the meaning.

Of course, the unit got better when we actually started writing poetry. I felt I wrote three exceptional poems. The titles are Unlike the Rest, Poseidon's Tradgedy, and Nothings and Half Truthes. All are seperate from each other, and probably some of the better things my Pen has produced.

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The Handy Abominable Photo Thread in General
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I was in this commercial. My hands were the shadowed ones? Could you see?

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Getting political in General
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Originally written by Jewelz:

quote:
Originally written by Goldenking:

I would absolutely vote against Huckabee, as he's religious...
Looks like Ron isn't the only bigot...

You may not have meant it to sound that way, but yeah, it sounds that way.

Yeah, I didn't mean it to sound quite that way. Huckabee because he's excessively religious more like it.

Ex, those letters got plenty of media coverage, directly proportionate to how much Paul got total. The letters weren't written by him himself, but he did endorse them. Anyways, I used to be for Paul, but that faded away as I learned more about him. These letters were the death blow.

Talie, the poll is still young. But still, all this shows is that Obama appeals to Republicans and Independents more than Hillary. This hasn't been the biggest secret, especially not here in Idaho. Were he won by the biggest margin I've ever seen in my young life.

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Getting political in General
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Originally written by Zeviz:

When asking about "favorite" candidate from the opposite party do you mean "favorite" in the sence of "if I ever voted for a guy from that party, I'd vote for him", or in the sence "I wish Republicans chose Huckubee, because that would guarantee a Democrat in the white house"?
For me anyways, it was something to the effect of "If the Dems lose the Generals, at least the Rep is this guy." So, the former.

And yeah, Ron Paul is racist. While I may RP the racist Hunters, who frankly should have a wider base if the continuing racist attitudes in Avernum are any indication, I am in fact totally against racism in any manner or form.

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The Avernum RP, OoC Thread in General
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quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

Been hitting the quantum laxative a little hard? I have no problem about most of what transpired, but there is one thing I disagree with.

A month?!

That's pushing timetables a little too fast, don't you think? Unless you have any objections (and probably even if you do), I'm not making the month that passed in your IC canon just yet. Know that I'm not snubbing you, but I prefer time to pass at a fairly stable rate. Thus, my next IC will probably start shortly after the refugees arrived.

Also, I'm a little concerned about the amount of power you're gaining and bringing to bear here. A massive army of goblins? An alliance with a dragon? Assaulting five cities simultaneously? To be blunt, I'm a little skeptical of this.

A month. Sure, I went ahead of schedule a bit, but that's just a timetable of symptoms, death, and infection. In the time until the month comes, feel free to RP the Plague spreading around like the filthy Plague it is. You don't have to skip ahead a month by any means.

The Dragon and the Goblins are there as plot devices, for an eventual revolt that will occur, not for any combat purposes. The Dragon may end up doing something eventually, but the goblins are definitely just filler. They wouln't do me any fighting. As for attacking five cities, its with forces I've already detailed existing, and with the exception of the Imperial Navy were already nearby. In fact, the only ones I feel sure about are Delan, New Sumar, and Silvar.

I certainly don't expect to win all of the cities on the first try, but I do think I'll win a few. And from there I can expand into the Krizsan with reinforcments. Since it's not to difficult to defend my northern or eastern borders.

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"I'm happy I'm the mentally disturbed person I am." -Nioca
"Yes, Iffy is a demon." -Iffy
"All (Spiderweb) servers should be taken down, erased, and then subjected to dissolution by alkahest." -Alorael
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Getting political in General
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Democrat, Obama and McCain. I would absolutely vote against Huckabee, as he's religious, and Paul, because he's basically just a racist. McCain and Hillary are fine with me, and frankly I don't know much about Romney, although apparently he just dropped out.

It's so inspiring. Obama came to Boise, where I live, on the Saturday before Super Tuesday. Fourteen thousand in the Taco Bell Arena, and my father was on TV several times, his hand in the Idaho Statesman. Then, come Super Tuesday, Idaho supported him eighty some percent to a distant second at fifteen percent for Clinton. While I dine at lunch, I overhear debates on which candidate is better, at age thirteen for Heaven's sake.

Anyways, although I'd rather have Obama or Hillary in, in that order, I'd be okay with McCain winning. My Dad rather despises Clinton for standing by Bill in his hour of need, or at least that's what he says.

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"I'm happy I'm the mentally disturbed person I am." -Nioca
"Yes, Iffy is a demon." -Iffy
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The Avernum RP, OoC Thread in General
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Nikki, as I told you via PM, it's either you or me. And seeing as how you're allying with the Sanctuary, I need to move know to destroy you. I'm hoping that my mass attack, along with the surprise factor, would be enough to get me victory in the War of Krizsanian Unification.

Meanwhile, I'll be doing all in my power to prevent Sanctuary and the Phoenix Empire from having further contact. Even if it means killing diplomats traveling through my territory. But if you can find a way, maybe around Bigail, then I'm more then willing to be forced onto a two front war. But until then, the Great Game against the Sanctuary will do.

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"I'm happy I'm the mentally disturbed person I am." -Nioca
"Yes, Iffy is a demon." -Iffy
"All (Spiderweb) servers should be taken down, erased, and then subjected to dissolution by alkahest." -Alorael
Posts: 1186 | Registered: Friday, June 18 2004 07:00

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