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Title	Off With Their Heads
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Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Friday, January 6 2006 00:34 Profile Homepage #31 I have pretty much all of the grammar of Classical Slith squared away. I still have to work out some of the nitty-gritty of the uses of the subjunctive and optative, and there are a few bits about noun gender that I'd like to modify, and some little bits and pieces of noun suffixes that I have to work with still, but most of what remains is creating the vocabulary. Basically, I decided first on a general structure. I wanted a heavily inflectional language based on Indo-European patterns. This got me started. Then I sat down and did phonology: what sounds does this language have? Since it was a language of reptile-men, a lot of hissing sounds (fricatives) made sense, with a bunch of spitting sounds (aspirated stops) and some growling (liquids and nasals). It made sense to throw in the idea of long vowels and short vowels, so between all of those, I had a sound system. I decided that the stress system would work the same way as Latin (stressed on the penult if it's heavy, on the antepenult if the penult is light). After that, I did paradigms: which cases exist in this language? What forms do they take? I like the Polish case system (nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, instrumental, locative, vocative), so I took that one. I used forms based loosely on Latin and Greek, for the most part, with appropriate substitutions to get rid of ambiguity and to make it sound more hissy. Then I did verb paradigms: how do the verbs conjugate? Which moods and tenses exist? Which verbals (infinitive, participle, etc.) exist? Are there aspectual distinctions? I basically decided to have as many forms as I could think of, so I organized that. At that point, I began constructing sentences to test out the grammar and see what sorts of constructions I would need to define and what sort of vocabulary I needed. And that's about where I stand now. The whole process took about two or three days. Of course, the next step is to figure out the exact sound changes that took place to transform into Modern Slith. I did some basic grammar work with that — I know which cases compress and which moods and tenses vanish — but I'd like more detail. And once I've done that, I ought to work out Barbaric Slith. [ Friday, January 06, 2006 00:35: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BUGS! in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 5 2006 22:39 Profile Homepage #5 revives as a new oddity is found In corescendata, the efreet (creature 174) has cr_natural_armor defined twice, the first time as 15 and the second time as 50. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BUGS! in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 5 2006 22:39 Profile Homepage #5 revives as a new oddity is found In corescendata, the efreet (creature 174) has cr_natural_armor defined twice, the first time as 15 and the second time as 50. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Swords or Spears? in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 5 2006 22:09 Profile Homepage #16 TM's essentially right. In Boolean logic, a tautology is a statement that is true regardless of the truth values of any of its parts (as defined in the Wikipedia article on "tautology"). An if-then is always true if its if-clause (the protasis) is false, and a contradiction is always false. Therefore an if-then is always true if it has a contradiction in the protasis, which makes it a tautology. EDIT: For the sake of making TM's post make sense, I should mention that this post originally said that he was wrong. Then I read closer, and my edit came in at about the same time as his post. [ Thursday, January 05, 2006 22:29: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 5 2006 20:44 Profile Homepage #29 quote: Originally written by wz. arsenic...: What exactly is the difference (phonetically in general, not necessarily as it pertains to the Slith language) between your gh and your rh? Aren't they pretty much the same thing? They're similar, but they're not strictly the same. As far as I know, no real language contrasts the two, but the place of articulation is different: the gh is a velar, but the rh is a uvular. French notoriously considers them allophones, but properly pronounced Greek and Armenian will demonstrate a difference — Greek has the velar, Armenian the uvular. (EDIT: Whoops. Apparently I'm wrong: they both have the velar. Almost nothing has the uvular anymore. But they are still different sounds.) I recommend you to the Wikipedia pages on the uvular trill and the voiced velar fricative for a more complete discussion. [ Saturday, January 07, 2006 04:28: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 5 2006 17:09 Profile Homepage #26 The digraph "kh" represents a voiceless velar fricative ("ch" in properly pronounced "Chanukah" or in Scottish "loch"). "Gh" is the corresponding voiced sound. I may as well list the big ones: "Th": voiceless dental fricative ("thin" but NOT "this"), corresponding to voiced "dh" (but "dh" is rare). "Sh": voiceless post-alveolar fricative ("should"), corresponding to voiced "zh" (the "s" in "measure" — "zh" is also rare). "Rh": uvular trill, like some varieties of a French or German R, or so I'm told. It's guttural. [ Thursday, January 05, 2006 17:14: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum:4 vs Blades Of Avernum which is the best? in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 5 2006 17:00 Profile Homepage #44 quote: Originally written by Student of Trinity: Mai point izn't that it shud bee this wae if wee wur criaeting an aidial languidge, onlee that it kurintlee iz this wae with Inglish. Okay, that's enough of that. Reform the spelling, and people who adopt the reformed spelling will initially look stupid in print. The solution, of course, is to adopt a mildly different alphabet at the same time. English has too many sounds for the Latin alphabet anyway (something like forty-plus sounds for twenty-six letters), so we need a bunch of new letters for the sake of one-to-one letter-to-phoneme and phoneme-to-letter correspondence. It looks less silly when it looks like a different writing system altogether. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
How do I install Avernum 4? in Tech Support
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 5 2006 14:25 Profile Homepage #21 "Carbonization" is the process by which one makes something OS X native. Classic mode (for the time being) will still run anything that was made for OS 9 or earlier. This means little to most users. Generally one double-clicks on an application, and if Classic mode begins starting, then one realizes that the application is Classic and waits a minute or two. At that point, one can proceed normally. My solution to dock overlap is to make the dock go away unless I want it. Go to System Preferences and muck around with your dock preferences until you find what you want. [ Thursday, January 05, 2006 14:26: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Mertis Spiral in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 5 2006 13:33 Profile Homepage #9 Yes, so I guess the most correct way to say it is this: their script has to run (i.e. they have to take a turn) while you're nearby. So you can have a fighter run up and stand next to them, the undead attack, and then archers or whatever attack and do real damage, all in the same turn. Bleh. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Mertis Spiral in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 5 2006 11:55 Profile Homepage #7 You have to be near them for a turn, which is what I was trying to say before. They don't have to hit you or anything, though. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 5 2006 11:41 Profile Homepage #24 quote: Originally written by Thuryl: The party is supposed to be the same party that finished Bahssikava. In that scenario, you were supposed to learn the ancient Slithzerikai language. (It was possible not to do so, but you missed a lot of the plot if you did.) Also, if you didn't learn the language during the course of the scenario, you learn it at the very end via a mind crystal right before Legare arrives in Vasskolis. The party by the end of Bahs understands the slith language. quote: Originally written by Thralni, chicken god prophet: 2) How do you know all this? notes of Avernum 1, 2 and 3, or you invented it? Jeff certainly didn't make this language. :P I thought it was obvious from the way that I described it: I invented it. I did try to use the sound system that I saw at work in names in the Avernum games (and it helped that I could equate the frequent -oss ending to a -us Latin ending), but for the most part, it's created. quote: Originally written by Slartucker: I am assuming your letter "h" varies as in English between syllabic (Herethet), aspirational (khoot), theta (theifaam) and thorn (lothamon)? The "h" does two things: when alone, it's the "h" in "happy"; when following a consonant, it's half of a digraph representing one sound (generally a fricative). Everything that can be aspirated is aspirated — this language comes from the hissing of lizard men, after all — so there's no need to mark it. quote: Does Barbaric Slith have any syntax at all? For nouns, anyway? The syntax is more or less like the syntax of English or Spanish: SVO word order, a variety of prepositions to function in place of case endings ("to someone" instead of "someone" in the dative case), etc. The conjugational system is MUCH reduced, and the vocabulary (as TM said) is rather simpler as well. quote: Originally written by Inthrall: Kelandon, are you going to post up the Slith language on your homepage? I haven't really decided what I'm going to do with it just yet. I think around the time that I put out a beta call (hopefully a few months from now), I'll put some notes on my page. Not sure. [ Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:42: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 13:15 Profile Homepage #18 The script is the same as the human script. The assumption that I'm working under is that one race first invented writing, and that race taught it to everyone else. The double vowels represent long vowels. That is, Soothaanam is the same thing as Sôthânam. Double consonants represent greater quantities, too, although there are none in that particular sentence. Word-for-word? Okay. Herethet ("temple" — instrumental singular) totet (demonstrative adjective "this" — instrumental singular neuter), Soothaanam (name: "Sothana" — accusative singular) theifam ("goddess" — accusative singular) lothamon ("to praise" — first person plural present active indicative perfective) khoot ("and" — strong form) kaalokh ("noble" — accusative plural masculine substantive adjective) totem (demonstrative adjective "this" — accusative singular neuter) polenem ("city" — accusative singular) fakhithathookh ("to do/make" — present perfect active perfective participle accusative plural masculine) divem ("rich" — accusative singular neuter). "By means of temple this, Sothana goddess we praise and noble [men] this city having made rich." EDIT: Small mistake in the sentence. (EDIT 3: Actually, I like it better the first way.) EDIT 2: This is Classical Slith, by the way, which is heavy on the inflections. Modern Slith is much lighter on them. Barbaric Slith (the kind most commonly found in Avernum) lacks a case system entirely. [ Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:44: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum:4 vs Blades Of Avernum which is the best? in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 12:58 Profile Homepage #30 quote: Originally written by Student of Trinity: Only that it's a real factor, which has to be taken seriously in spelling reform, that mastery of English's bizarre spelling is currently used as a cue to the education level, and even the intelligence, of the writer. People still mishear sounds, though. Even if English were perfectly phonetic, with a one-to-one correspondence between a phoneme and a letter, uneducated people would still mis-spell things because they pronounce them incorrectly (because they've misheard them from youth). Even if one were to assume that spelling is useful in this way, which I think is probably a flawed assumption, I don't think this argument works. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum:4 vs Blades Of Avernum which is the best? in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 11:58 Profile Homepage #26 David Crane? The name doesn't ring a bell. One other thing: English spelling, unlike English grammar, was fossilized to reflect elite pronunciation at one point in time. That much is definitely true, and I'd be in favor of shifting our spelling to a more properly phonetic system (and marking accents, darn it, the way the modern Greeks do). -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Mertis Spiral in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 11:39 Profile Homepage #3 He makes it so that after a turn delay, you can do real damage to the cauldron spawn (they're not invulnerable anymore). -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum:4 vs Blades Of Avernum which is the best? in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 11:33 Profile Homepage #24 quote: Originally written by Notty: quote: Originally written by Thralni, chicken god prophet: quote: Originally written by Synergy: Probably the most common grammar mistake in English is saying, "It's me." While, common misuse has made the correct form, "It is I" sound wrong, it is correct. Sorry, couldn't resist this: It is sounds, with an S. Sorry, couldn't resist this. It is "sound", without an "s". There is no popular or grammatical justification for changing that verb. To be fair, the punctuation is so badly off that it's hard to tell, on first glance, what Synergy intended. The sentence should read: "While common misuse has made the correct form, 'It is I,' sound wrong, it is correct." SoT: I don't think so much that we've lost the ability to express thing as that we've chosen not to express them anymore. I just read Fahrenheit 451 a couple of days ago, and the most striking thing about that book is that it wasn't the government that began the censorship — it was that people (by and large, not universally) stopped reading good writing. This seems extremely realistic to me. Well, and more to the point, people today are often choosing to say things in the most simplistic ways possible. It's hard to explain why it's nice to be able to use an elevated register of diction, but I can't shake the feeling that it is nice. [ Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:54: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A4 Demo in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 11:31 Profile Homepage #18 quote: Originally written by Glafna: Kelandon-the link leads to a "My Web Search", is that what it's supposed to do? Yes. Don't actually follow the link. Look at the address it's linking to. Copy and past in your browser if necessary. quote: Dear Alorael- first of all, why do you alwayse refer to yourself in the third person? He doesn't always — just in his signature. quote: Second, By what I've heard about the storyline, there will obviously be surface access. Hell, for all we know, there could be 2-3 different storylines for how you play it, or you could choose to start on the surface, or belowground, or whatever. What have you heard about the storyline of Avernum 5? -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 11:22 Profile Homepage #16 quote: Originally written by Thralni, chicken god prophet: i thought we'd see some "real" ancient slithisch (or whatever its called). Some sentences in the ancient language, a school we can learn it or something. So I can't expect that to happen, I assume? Yes, you will see some sentences in the language. Here, this is what I'm talking about: you find an altar, and part of the message that pops up says, "It says: 'Herethet totet, Soothaanam theifaam lothamon khoot kaalokh totem polenem fakhithathookh divem.' That is: with this temple, we praise the goddess Sothana and the noble men who have made this city rich." [ Wednesday, January 04, 2006 13:37: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum:4 vs Blades Of Avernum which is the best? in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 11:11 Profile Homepage #21 English was never correctly spoken. No language was. The rules of English exist based on spoken usage (at any period of time) only in broad outlines. They do not come from freezing a language in any moment in time — this is a myth, no more true for being common. People used to learn the rules better than they do now, but they still had to learn them. So where do they come from? A few rules exist from comparison with Latin and the Romance languages. But the main source of grammatical rules is the attempt to make the language make sense. I study Latin and Greek, so I have to compare to them. Latin was heavily standardized from an early point in its literary history, whereas Greek was not. There was a "correct" way of speaking Latin almost as long ago as there were any literary texts (1st century B.C.). Greek had grammarians back as far as the glory days of Athens, but it wasn't really standardized until after the golden age of its literature. The end result is that Latin grammar books are small and make a lot of sense; the usage is rational. Greek grammar books are huge, and they contain an absurd number of exceptions, mostly involving "assimilation" and "vividness" and "asyndeton" and a variety of other words that basically mean "grammatical incorrectness." The Greek books probably better reflect actual usage at the time, but would you rather read 700 pages of small type or 200 pages of big type? My grammar books for Greek and Latin are the former and the latter, respectively — the results of standardization. The reason that English now seems less linguistically precise to readers of older works is that high style died over the course of the past hundred years. It is not that contemporary English is a less expressive idiom with fewer words — far from it! We have many more words than we once did. It is that we don't use high style anymore. Until fairly recently, people loved to hear other people be more eloquent than they could be (from Abe Lincoln to Cicero and Demosthenes). They flocked to speeches to hear masterful language. For whatever reason (and I haven't ever investigated this), people don't like this anymore. I do think that there has been a shift over the course of the past century or so in the register of diction that normal people can understand — not that they speak, but that they can understand. This is evident in the way in which our political speakers speak now compared to the way they spoke in the mid-19th century, even though both expected everyone in the audience to understand what they were saying. And Glafna, there will not be a BoA2. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Difficulty switch bug in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 03:19 Profile Homepage #2 It's fine here. I never noticed this, because I played the whole game on Normal (or so I thought...). -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 03:15 Profile Homepage #11 TM, stop trolling. Both you and I know that there were obvious criticisms of Bahs's combat, but nothing relating to the battles being "large." Your point is spurious. Special spells: yes, I'm flattering Stareye with my imitation. (I'm actually doing everything I can to avoid doing anything resembling Canopy's special spells, since I hated them. But eh.) Oh, and one other thing, TM: you will hate Exodus. Thralni: there are almost no undead. I've done a mental check, and there are a few places where one might encounter undead (most not hostile), but only town in which the majority of your fighting is against undead. There are a couple of demons, but nothing like the demon swarm that over-ran Ancient Bahssikava. About the slith language: you won't have to learn the language to get anywhere in Exodus. I'm just going to throw in a few sentences in the language (which will be immediately translated, since the party already learned the language in Bahssikava and Vasskolis). It's just for fun. And atmosphere (or something). Besides, I'm not sure that anyone else will really be able to understand the language anyway. The grammar is something of a fusion of Latin, Greek, and the Slavic languages (particularly Polish). Out of curiosity, is there anyone else here who seriously studies a language with declensions? Or happens to speak Finnish or German or Russian (etc.) natively and has carefully read grammar books on his or her own language (enough that when I say something like "genitive case" you know what I mean)? [ Wednesday, January 04, 2006 03:21: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Geneforge 3 Review in Geneforge Series
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Wednesday, January 4 2006 02:40 Profile Homepage #9 GF3 isn't even the most recent game released by Spiderweb. Therefore it is old enough that Jeff doesn't much read the threads on it anymore, at least as far as anyone knows. (Maybe he secretly lurks and never tells us.) I phrased my previous post in the way that I did to indicate that I have my doubts about that information as well. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BoA CHAT!! in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Tuesday, January 3 2006 21:23 Profile Homepage #4 You won't be able to have missed it for another 20+ hours, I think. I will miss it, though, so it would be nice to post a synopsis here for those of us who have to work or watch the Rose Bowl or something. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
How do I install Avernum 4? in Tech Support
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Tuesday, January 3 2006 21:21 Profile Homepage #2 In 10.4, I think you can just double-click on the file. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00

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