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bashing anvils in Geneforge Series
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The one that didn't work for me was rod of succor: stick, gemstone, glaahk eye, healing spores (recipe per Schrodinger). I put it down to low quality mass-produced ingredients and thought no more of it. I can't really think of this as a bug.

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Linux anybody? in General
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I found the Exile III port worked beautifully under Redhat 6.2 but was dreadful under all later linux distros.

As Tyranicus says, dual boot is the way to go.

Edit: Tyro changed his pdn!

[ Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:33: Message edited by: Micawber ]

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Riddle Me This, Batman! in General
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While we're on the subject of mathematics, did you hear the one about the guy who refused a Fields Medal?

Grigory Perelman declines top prize

Chance'd be a fine thing...

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Brooches (A1) in The Avernum Trilogy
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With 4 brooches, you die after killing Hawthorne. With 5 brooches, you live to go and get a reward from Erika and carry on adventuring.

Although you didn't ask for the location of the 5th brooch, I'm going to give it to you anyway:

Platinum - MertisPearl - Spiral pitMalachite - Friendly spidersIvory - MotraxChalcedony - Pyrog

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Quick thought about boss battles in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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quote:
Originally written by Alorael:

You usually get a fair warning after the first round in which you damage the invincible monster.
Exactly. Removing the health bar for bosses would go against Jeff's sense of fairplay.

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Avernums how many people do you prefer to use in each of the Avernum games? in The Avernum Trilogy
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I'm getting a feeling that Dikiyoba likes priests.

I like to have 4 characters each of whom specialises in 2 things, which I mix and match from among pole, melee, bows, assassination, mage, priest, potions and lockpicking. In other words pretty much like the pre-fab party but with a little bit less redundancy.

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Riddle Me This, Batman! in General
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The two games aren't independent.

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Riddle Me This, Batman! in General
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It's 67%, if you answered *i's riddle correctly.

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Riddle Me This, Batman! in General
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It's worth pointing out that the great mathematician Paul Erdős famously got this problem wrong. And he never truly accepted the solution, even when it was demonstrated using logic tables.

It is certainly quite difficult to explain convincingly to the layman (I've tried). Bayesian statistics will always be somewhat controversial.

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Battles in Avernums in The Avernum Trilogy
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If you thought this fight was difficult, you should try Geneforge. There's this area call the shaper crypt ;)

Anyway, those fights such as many drakes, guardians, etc are completely optional - just skip for now and go rescue some crystal souls. You can always come back later.

BTW, there are only 2 drake fangs, but 3 quests to get one. You need to choose whose quest to complete and whose not to complete.

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Online game engine in General
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See this thread.

Edit: D'oh, bother that simultaneity.

[ Monday, August 07, 2006 12:02: Message edited by: Micawber ]

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AV2 and Empire Caches in The Avernum Trilogy
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There's at least one west of Fort Draco (across the bridge).

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Santa problem. in Geneforge Series
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Sounds like a script has been corrupted. Probably the best solution would be to backup save files and then reinstall GF. If you're registered, back up your registration as well following the instructions in Jeff's letter.

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Online game engine in General
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You've got to admit, he asked for that.

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Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
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Khyryk sympathised with the rebels' cause, but would not condone their methods. Raeche (GF2) learned to respect serviles. Litalia clearly held similar views, but was unwise in the way she expressed them. Not all shapers are completely lacking in conscience.

Prior to the rebellion, most shapers weren't even aware of the problem of independent creations. How can you judge all shapers on the basis of the actions of a handful, including the vast majority who are ignorant of the facts.

Remember when you first arrived on Sucia Island, you were astonished to discover that the serviles possessed enough ability to survive on their own and the intelligence to establish their own civilisation. This is news to most shapers.

There's no denying the rebels need to be able to defend themselves. However there was a chance that sympathetic shapers could win over the shaper council and agree a peaceful solution. Following the war that chance is now gone.

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Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
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Rather than trying to demolish my viewpoint, why not do what I asked, try to imagine what things look like when you look from a different angle?

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Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
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Waylander, we seem to see the Geneforge 3 situation in different ways. Loosely speaking, you see things in terms of WWII, and have identified the shapers as the nazis and the drakon rebellion as the western allies. Equally loosely, I tend to see things more in terms of the Irish troubles, with the shapers as the British government and the drakon rebellion as the armed republican movement. In your eyes the drakons are a liberating army, in my eyes they are terrorists. I have tried to take account of your viewpoint below, but please also consider how things look from the other viewpoint. The problem with the taker viewpoint is that it pre-supposes that a peaceful solution cannot be found.

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Originally written by Waylander:

I have no doubt that there is collateral damage. [...] Numerous civilians died during the liberation of mainland Europe from the Nazis. Horrific acts were committed during the French revolution. The American revolutionary butchered many individuals with loyalist sympathies. And yet we don't really condemn such actions.
While I accept your point about collateral damage (see below) I'm not too sure about your examples. That is the first time I have seen the French revolutionary terror justified! There is a difference between inadvertant harm to civilians (as in Kosovo) and deliberate targeting of them. The carpet-bombing of Dresden, nuking Hiroshima, and in general 'rounding up' and execution of dissenters - these have often been condemned. That doesn't mean the cause wasn't just, but you can't go around killing others because they don't agree with you. It is possible to take prisoners, you know.

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If they take the moral high road, then they will be destroyed. And let's be honest, what good is it to have 'the moral high ground'?
If you act without concern for morality you become a monster. To act reasonably you need to target the aggressive elements within your enemy, not just indiscriminately kill everything that moves. How successful your targeting is of course depends on other factors, such as intelligence, precision of weaponry etc. In WWII both weaponry and intelligence were very limited, and consequently there were a lot of civilian deaths resulting from justifiable action against military targets. I accept these deaths were unavoidable. But this is in a different league from deliberately taking action which targets civilians.

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We will have to agree to disagree. IMHO, the Greenwood Academy was a legitimate target.
I can certainly agree to disagree there.

[ Sunday, August 06, 2006 02:15: Message edited by: Micawber ]

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Alec Kyras: An 19th Birthday Retrospective in General
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Yeah, I can't believe you really thought Alec II ruled Germany.

[Pedantry]
I'm pretty sure that the plural of oaf is oafs. You know, like roof, roofs.
[/Pedantry]

Edit: well it turns out the OED has both forms of the plural, although oafs are more common than oaves.

[ Sunday, August 06, 2006 02:22: Message edited by: Micawber ]

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Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
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Waylander, let's not make this an argument about words (clearly 'rampage' has a lot of connotations).

Surely we can agree on this: 1. the shapers are antagonistic towards the drakons, and other free creations, 2. rather than merely hiding away, the drakons have developed war-making capacity in order to challenge the shapers, 3. there is some justice in the drakon cause, i.e. resistance to the shaper council which believes they do not have a right to exist.

However, their methods involve indiscriminate killing and destruction, in my view this cannot be justified.

Unfortunately, the diplomatic course proposed by the awakened was not pursued and instead the taker viewpoint (kill them before they kill us) prevailed.

The drakons have gone beyond resistance and started down a very dark path. A shiver runs down my spine when I hear the argument that the school should be destroyed, because it is turning out young enemies of the creations.

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Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
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They're not just reacting - they're actively seeking violence. How was the academy of Greenwood Isle a threat to them? The people of Terrestria (we are told "the whole of Terrestria is in flames") weren't violent towards drakons, they never even knew they existed.

As for point 2, sending others to rampage on one's behalf does not exonerate one from a charge of murder.

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Were there to be a new spiderweb series... in General
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Evidently in Jeff's view Geneforge does have a plot, albeit it is now getting repetitive. And there really ought to be some plot potential in the ethics of genetic manipulation. We seem to have become bogged down despite entering promising territory. I'm not sure there's any such excuse for A4.

I suppose A5 is now inevitable, but maybe it would be better not to bother with G5. It should be possible to explore similar themes in an entirely new timeline (inevitably keeping the same engine, graphics and spells, etc).
I would echo TM's call for more meaningful involvement of the party in the plot. GF2/3 both suffer from the feeling that whatever you do, the wider war will just carry on regardless (and locally there is little variety as each sect/island is essentially the same). What seems to be needed is more imaginative microplotting, to balance the global plot if it is felt you can't alter that. Not necessarily originality, but drawing inspiration from a wider pool of ideas.

Changing the subject...

In the interests of accurate spelling, I'd like to point out if Othello were to edit the first post of this thread (including the topic title), that would be awesome.

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weevil hint in Nethergate
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I know this question was a long time ago, but it was bugging me and I finally looked it up in my notes (old fashionedly held on paper).

Anyhow, you can buy the Rippel-weevil hint from Toivo (in the Hollow Hills inn) - it costs 50 coins.

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Shaper hypocrisy vs. Shaper tragedy (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Drakons do pose a [...] dilemma: what do you do with a group [who] are powerful, dangerous, and violent to the point that they represent a threat to society? [...] Killing all of them seems too extreme.
(edited for length)

A dilemma indeed. Now where have I seen this before? Guantanamo, perhaps?

Edit: Waylander: what do you call GF3, if not a Drakon rampage?

[ Friday, August 04, 2006 08:05: Message edited by: Micawber ]

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Guardian's Points -GF1- in Geneforge Series
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I seem to remember GF1 was fairly easy as a Guardian. Quick Action and Anatomy are very good skills.

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The Great SW Photo Captioning Contest in General
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Caption: "The children were getting rather cruel, in their attempts to see a flying squirrel in the wild..."

To The Stew Boy: it was a reference to the 1966 story The War Machines.

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