Were there to be a new spiderweb series...
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Warrior
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written Friday, August 4 2006 10:53
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What kind of game would you want? RPG like Avernum or Geneforge? Real-time or turn-based? I would like to see some awsome ideas. [ Tuesday, August 08, 2006 08:14: Message edited by: Othello ] Posts: 66 | Registered: Saturday, September 3 2005 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Friday, August 4 2006 11:37
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I'd like a new series with a plot. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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? Man, ? Amazing
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written Friday, August 4 2006 11:53
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Perhaps an Exiled version of Geneforge? Jeff must just love these threads, what with how incredibly hard it would be to just come up with some new idea that pleases both TM and the average customer. And, as always, as soon as a new idea is mentioned on these boards which might actually have some merit, it is no longer usable. -------------------- quote: Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, August 4 2006 11:55
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I don't think he cares about pleasing TM; and I don't blame him for it... -------------------- Lt. Sullust Cogito Ergo Sum Polaris Posts: 2462 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Friday, August 4 2006 12:03
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quote:Man you are so right I for one am content with a series of plots differentiated only by varying levels of libertarian paranoia -------------------- "Names is for tombstones, baby." -Mr. Big Posts: 699 | Registered: Thursday, September 20 2001 07:00 |
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written Friday, August 4 2006 12:15
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How about, like, making something with a PLOT? For instance, how hard would it be to make Nethergate, but have it be Aztecs vs. Conquistadors? Or to have ANY sort of game not called "Nethergate" or "A Small Rebellion" in which the PCs are a part of the story? Like, why not have a game in which the player is affected by ANY conflict that has actual meaning? (Geneforge, I'm looking at you. How a mindless drone reacts to libertarian propaganda is not "conflict".) I mean, JV could make a game in which the party are fighters during eschaton? What about one in which the party is undead and has to find a way to be revived? Or how about a Memento-style game, where the plot is played in reverse? I mean, even within the realm of RPGs, there are way too many possibilities for JV to make a game that both appeals to the combat-heavy sentimentalities of a six-year-old that JV is dead-set convinced that he HAS to appease (ie, "allow for level-building" or "have an easy option and make the plot ignorable) while making a game that will simultaneously be playable to someone over the age of twelve. -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, August 4 2006 13:11
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Evidently in Jeff's view Geneforge does have a plot, albeit it is now getting repetitive. And there really ought to be some plot potential in the ethics of genetic manipulation. We seem to have become bogged down despite entering promising territory. I'm not sure there's any such excuse for A4. I suppose A5 is now inevitable, but maybe it would be better not to bother with G5. It should be possible to explore similar themes in an entirely new timeline (inevitably keeping the same engine, graphics and spells, etc). I would echo TM's call for more meaningful involvement of the party in the plot. GF2/3 both suffer from the feeling that whatever you do, the wider war will just carry on regardless (and locally there is little variety as each sect/island is essentially the same). What seems to be needed is more imaginative microplotting, to balance the global plot if it is felt you can't alter that. Not necessarily originality, but drawing inspiration from a wider pool of ideas. Changing the subject... In the interests of accurate spelling, I'd like to point out if Othello were to edit the first post of this thread (including the topic title), that would be awesome. -------------------- "I can't read this thread with that image. But then, that's not a complaint." -Scorpius Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4 Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00 |
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Veteran*
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written Friday, August 4 2006 14:05
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omg. What about Exile 4? Wow, I'm a genius. Posts: 455 | Registered: Tuesday, May 17 2005 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Friday, August 4 2006 15:07
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I remember Jeff saying that there will be no more Exile games. -------------------- George Bush is a Nazi - Eric Cartmen I'm not as think you stoned I am Visit the RIFQ Forums Posts: 462 | Registered: Tuesday, June 21 2005 07:00 |
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Veteran*
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written Friday, August 4 2006 15:43
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I wonder why? Posts: 455 | Registered: Tuesday, May 17 2005 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, August 4 2006 15:48
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Blades of Geneforge... -------------------- Wasting your time and mine looking for a good laugh. Star Bright, Star Light, Oh I Wish I May, I Wish Might, Wish For One Star Tonight. Posts: 1084 | Registered: Thursday, November 7 2002 08:00 |
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written Friday, August 4 2006 16:48
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NO. How about new BoX scenarios? -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, August 4 2006 18:02
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Jeff seems to no longer want to write in the Exile engine. He could use an existing engine like Blades of Avernum, Geneforge, or Nethergate and start in a new world. I agree with TM *shudder* that the plots in Geneforge are more dependent upon agreeing with a sect's opinion and less with your actions. I would like to see a more Nethergate style game where you can pick a side and play the game from that viewpoint. For Avernum that would mean a loyal Avernite protecting the land or a Darkside Loyalist working with stealth to overthrow the system. Too bad that Jeff can't use some of our ideas where we would just get credit for the idea since we don't have to do the work of implementing it. Unless you are writing your own scenario, Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Friday, August 4 2006 19:23
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quote:BoA and Nethergate have the same engine. :P [ Friday, August 04, 2006 19:26: Message edited by: Tyranicus ] -------------------- "You're drinking liquor because you're thirsty? How nasty is your freaking water?" —Lazarus Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, August 4 2006 21:59
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Technically, they have different dialog and spell systems, but aside from that, pretty much the same engine as far as I can tell. -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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written Saturday, August 5 2006 05:57
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quote:I don't thnk a turn-based game would realy interest the SW community. He should make a game with the Exile graphics, I tend to like them more than the Geneforge and Avernum ones. Edit: I mean maybe they would be interested in realtime more than turn-based. [ Saturday, August 05, 2006 08:13: Message edited by: Chaotic Wisdom ] -------------------- --------------------------------- Live long and prosper. Viva mucho tiempo y prospere. Habiter long et prospérer. Leben Sie lang und prosperieren Sie. Lever lang og prosper. Longos vivos e prosper. Lunghi in tensione e prosperano. ??????????? ????????? ???? ? ????. Posts: 84 | Registered: Wednesday, July 6 2005 07:00 |
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written Saturday, August 5 2006 06:15
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quote:Um, what? All SW games so far are essentially turn-based. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Saturday, August 5 2006 09:07
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Maybe an alliance with other game company in the future could be very good for creating better games... Posts: 446 | Registered: Friday, July 22 2005 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, August 5 2006 09:17
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[QUOTE]Originally written by chicho1102: Maybe an alliance with other game company in the future could be very good for creating better games...[/QUOTE Ack. Posts: 73 | Registered: Monday, June 26 2006 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, August 5 2006 12:30
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quote:Like, selling out to Electronic Arts? -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Saturday, August 5 2006 16:10
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quote:Same here. Blades of Geneforge would be great. I liked Nethergate, too. So maybe a sequel to Nethergate would also be nice. Keep posting, -------------------- The Leaf, still green, must someday fall. Such grief, such joy, to live at all. -From T.A. Barron's Book - The Wings of Merlin Posts: 6 | Registered: Wednesday, July 12 2006 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, August 5 2006 17:11
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I'd like to take the time to echo the sentements expressed before, and add a little bit of my own. It seems to me that the past few games have been less and less about the party, and more about the events of the world of the party, regardless of the party's actions. Did that make any sense? If the party could have a more active role in the world, instead of just in alignment and celebrity? -------------------- The Silent Assassin presented me with the storyline for a BoA scenario that he wants me to work on (while he goes off and plays with his own, I suppose). I refuse to script any scenario where he gets help in ascending to godhood. -------------------- -Lenar Labs What's Your Destiny? Ushmushmeifa: Lenar's power is almighty and ineffable. All hail lord Noric, god of... well, something important, I'm sure. Posts: 735 | Registered: Monday, January 16 2006 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Sunday, August 6 2006 03:08
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It's looks like GF4 will have a large role for the party to play, and BoG is probably several GF games away. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, August 6 2006 07:16
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For the sake of my extremely tenuous sanity, could someone please fix the title of this topic? The first word should be 'were' and not 'where.' -------------------- "You're drinking liquor because you're thirsty? How nasty is your freaking water?" —Lazarus Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Sunday, August 6 2006 10:39
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Evidently if you should lose your sanity, your particular derangement would be lycanthropy. -------------------- We're not doing cool. We're doing pretty. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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