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Elitist? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #71
I know Salmon's smokin' good looks are the only reason we haven't banned him. :o

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Legends of Divinity OOC in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #566
Can't everybody just stop whining?

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Elitist? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #64
There have definitely been 10-year-olds here in the past, and I imagine there still are now. Certainly there must be 10-year-old lurkers.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Scenario Download Help Needed! in Blades of Avernum
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #6
Stuffit Expander actually *launches* Word? That doesn't make much sense. If it really does that when you drag the .sit onto Stuffit, I would re-download a recent version of Expander.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Lame in Richard White Games
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #1
Subversive is not why things are funny. Funny is constellated incomprehensibility. I don't partake of it, but the whole RW gig fits that template pretty neatly.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Elitist? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #40
"Why can't we all just get along?" was somewhat sarcastic.

Student of Trinity has it right. In real life, it's exceedingly rare to see a social group that includes both 10- and 20-year-olds. The developmental changes that occur between those ages, with regard to social skills, are pretty huge. That's even more noticeable here because an internet forum about computer games is going to attract members who are, on average, less socially inclined and more fantasy oriented than the average person.

So on the one hand I see what Nioca is reacting to, but I think it's baloney to call that stuff elitism; it's just more developed social abilities and standards. It's hard to use sarcasm appropriately when you're 10, for example. I know I would get in trouble for making personal attacks that I had intended to be friendly jokes. And when you get older you lose tolerance for the behaviors you practiced when younger. When I was Nioca's age I'm sure I said foolish things based on false assumptions, too. But now I yell at him when he does it (see the first Deathmatch topic). *shrug*

I do think this it's a case of pot and kettle to label this "elitism" -- decrying somebody else's social standards is just as elitist as applying them is. The explanation for the standards' origins may be age-related, but the standards aren't applied based on age, newbiehood, or any other factor. Before being permabanned, TM had been compared to the demographically average spiderweb member in every respect. He was a bit on the older side and was an oldbie respected for his accomplishments. But he nonetheless received as much hate and negative attention for his actions as anyone did. (His banning was sometimes delayed, but I have not heard any complaints about banning decisions in this topic, just about post content.)

There is however an important truth in Nioca's argument. Condemnation of behavior that's not up to par need not be insulting. Many people here could improve on that front. But as for its more blank condemnation, there is neither elitism nor hate in it. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. People deserve to get more support in learning to withstand heat than most do; however, this is a poor place to look for such support.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Resistances in Nethergate
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #1
The feeder abilities seem to be more or less interchangeable. Or at least, I have often noticed that I can raise a score by adding either 2 Luck, 2 Roman Training, or 1 of each, when it won't raise for 1 Luck or 1 RT.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Elitist? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #15
Why can't we all just get along?

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Question about some skills. in The Avernum Trilogy
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #3
Endurance sucks in every Spiderweb game. It's often worth buying a couple of cheap points later in the game, but (with the exception of Geneforge 4, in which its impact was ramped up) it has such a small impact on your HP, percentagewise, that it's rarely worth paying attention to; the fact that it is entirely dependent on PC level is just kicking a dead horse. The bonus to resistance stats has never been particularly noticeable or useful, either.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Deathmatch Tournament -- Round Two, Part One in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #75
Wow. You guys do me proud.

I feel kinda lame that I continue to not continue, but I think it will continue. I have been really overwhelmed with work and that will continue for the rest of the month. Although we have no summer vacation, it's still the end of the year for us and there are a huge number of things to plan and do. On top of that there's a lot of staff turnover to deal with, and I may end up in one of several different positions. I'm also moving (twice -- the group I work with is moving for the summer, and then I am moving myself), and then at the end of the month I'll be gone entirely for a week. So, the not continuing will likely continue.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Creation Combo! in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #8
IFM, your post is inflammatory. And you attacked Ceylon for making a simple observation.

Consider this your official warning with regard to making personal attacks.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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After Day 180 in Nethergate
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #7
The Misc. reference was clearly to the scripts.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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We spoiled Americans in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #55
As opposed to the current system, where it's totally possible to avoid the sales tax. (Well, outside of New Hampshire, anyway.)

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Number for a good shield? in Avernum 4
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #7
Getting to 10 natural AP is HUGE as it gets you an extra attack every turn, including when hasted. Melee fighters actually care about it the least since everyone else can fire off shots without moving at all. If you are only working with one character, or are cheating to get extra shields, the bulwark is by far the best option, as the AP boosting shoes have a big penalty and the armors are significantly worse than other options. This is assuming you use the Cryos Spear (in a quick use slot) for the other extra point.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
We spoiled Americans in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #47
How would it be simple to track the amount every individual spends on expenses, presumably including daily expenses, in order to charge the right amount of sales tax?

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Deathmatch has no save and restore. in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #13
It also breaks the CoC.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Whatever Happened to. . . in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #47
quote:
Originally written by Sarasaphilia:

If so, shut up... Real simple concept, Brain Surgeon.
Ephesos's comments were provocational, but this escalates things with a gratuitous personal attack. Sarasaphilia, you need to keep personal attacks out of your posts. Finito!

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Jeff Interview at IMG in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #50
Nethergate's storyline was almost completely untouched in the remake.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
I need some help. in Avernum 4
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #8
What real editor? Avernum 4 has no editor.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
I need some help. in Avernum 4
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #3
Why not post all your odd questions here?

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Curse of the Crones in Nethergate
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #1
If you have been marked as a murderer, you can't remove the curse.

You could cheat to remove the mark and then remove the curse normally, however. The curse is, as far as I've seen, hardcoded, so you can't remove it with the editor.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
We spoiled Americans in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #28
Ceylon and IFM, stop feeding the flames, both of you.

Topics similar to this one have occasionally gone quite well, though admittedly those have tended to begin with a more clearly delineated question.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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