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| Registered | Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Nuke and Pave
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written Friday, November 3 2006 13:58
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Stew Boy, I was in the same situation as you when at school. I was smallest and weakest kid in the class, and always knew (and still do) that "fighting is bad". However, "fighting is bad" applies only to the fights that you start or cause yourself (provoking a fight is just as bad as starting one). If you are pushed, you are expected to push back. I still suggest that, if you've never fought back, suddenly showing your ability to beat up the guy who always bullied you is the only way to get him to stop if all else has failed. (Note the "if all else failed" part. I am not saying that teachers should ignore the complaints, but there are plenty of interactions with kids outside of school.) quote:You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you believe in turning the other cheek so much that you are willing to take any abuse that is thrown at you without a complain, or you are using "non-violence" simply as an excuse to avoid protecting yourself. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Thursday, November 2 2006 16:24
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quote:Both. The ratio differs from person to person and is greatly influenced by environment and upbringing, but it is never 0 or infinity. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Thursday, November 2 2006 16:08
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Let's stop for a moment to go back to original question. I just want to make it clear that nobody is saying that children should intentionally be hurt as much as possible to "develop their character". If a student complains that he is being bullied, the teacher should take action. However, children shouldn't be locked in glass houses with strictly regimented routines either. Just let kids be kids and if a boy hurts himself falling from a playground ladder, he'll know to better judge the risks next time. PS Talking about even more obscure references I wonder if more than two people will understand "glass houses with strictly regimented routines". -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Thursday, November 2 2006 10:17
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Kel, if a third grader is getting beaten up by a sixth grader, it's pretty obvious that it's time to call in the teachers/parents/other authorities. However, if a third grader is constantly punched, pinched, etc. by a weaker second grader, it's the third grader's fault. As for "fighting back", this has nothing to do with physical violence. If we are talking about playground bullies, the conflict is physical. But in other situation "fighting back" can take the form of being unafraid to report abuse or other problems, going out to lead a counter-protest, or simply trying to accomplish something until you succeed. Today's American schools are ideal for encouraging complacency and "not fighting back", particularly in the sence of "persisting until you achieve your goal". With grade inflation, multiple "tracks" that allow students to graduate without learning even seventh-grade material, and classes whose main requirement is to be fun for the students the system encourages everybody to be happy with whatever little they have, without striving for more. I guess I am in the middle between DV's independent strength and mindless submission that would result from some of the suggestions on this thread. Unfortunately I am a lot closer to submission edge of the spectrum, but I can at least understand the problem. PS I just read DV's last posts and ... wow. I have a lot of respect for you. Your posts make mine irrelevant, but I'll leave it in since I've already typed it. [ Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:20: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 23:56
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Alec and Aran, I guess you'd have a heart attack seeing the kind of playground equipment we've had. The scariest one I can remember was a set of two vertical ladders and two climbing poles connected by a horizontal bar at the top. The idea was to climb up one ladder, hang on the horizontal bar "walking" across to the other, and climb down. (And I have to admit, I never worked up the courage to do the hanging part.) The scary part was that ledders were several times taller than an adult (about 8-10 meters I'd guess) and the ground under them was very hard. That piece of equipment was obviously targeted at older kids, but things for smaller children were equally dangerous. As for parental supervision, for kids like Salmon and DV there really was none. Even for kids like me, living in cities with obsessive parents, there is not much a parent can do if a kid falls to the ground from the top of a playground ladder (different than the one I've described above) and almost breaks his back. However, that was expected part of being a kid. The emergency room to which they took me was full of kids who got hurt while playing and the doctor said after examination "don't worry: nothing is broken and kids always fall". It's too late in the evening for a philosophical discussion, so I'll just say that despite some back problems that I still have I am glad that my childhood, despite being relatively sheltered, was still much more human than the incubators into which they seem to be turning modern American schools. (I still can't believe some people took seriously my suggestion to ban bikes and rollerskates.) EDIT: Stew Boy, about bullies, I know it's always easy to give advice, but from personal experience, if a weak kid who never fights back one day picks up a stick that was thrown at him and hits the bully in the stomach so hard that he bends over in pain, the bully is likely to stay away in the future. Unlike DV, I don't think there is anything wrong with complaining to authorities (and that often is the most effective course of action), but sometimes your only option is to fight back. And if you've never done this before, it's going to be much more scary for the guy against whom you'll fight back, because he will not be expecting anything like this. [ Thursday, November 02, 2006 00:11: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 23:08
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Congratulations! PS Alorael, you meant something like this?  -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 22:32
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quote:Our side expresses agreement in principle with the spirit of your proposal and is willing to coordinate a time and place to schedule a meeting to discuss an agenda for the preliminary talks about the feasibility of a successful spam disarmament conference. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 16:05
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Sorry if my previous post sounded rude. I didn't mean to insult anybody here. I guess the difference in perception is due to a cultural differences between America and other places. (There are no bicycle helmets in Russia, not even talking about plastic playground equipment, or "do not put on your head" labels on plastic bags.) So for me the idea of banning bikes and requiring adults to have license to to use skis, skates, and so on is as insane as an idea to require all cars to drive no faster than 10 miles per hour to avoid accidents, or an idea to require every pedestrian to wear bright orange glow-in-the-dark coats at night to avoid accidents. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 15:52
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quote:Are you questioning the wisdom of The Party? Comrades, arrest that "enemy of the people"! :P -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 15:48
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quote:I hope you were joking. Are you implying that there are people smart enough to use a computer, who would consider skis and skateboards to be "dangerous devices that should require license to operate even for adults"? [ Wednesday, November 01, 2006 15:56: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 15:42
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EDIT: [SARCASM] These schools are obviously moving in the right direction. However, it's completely irresponsible of them to neglect the biggest danger to kids: bicycles. Far more kids get hurt or even killed riding bikes than playing tag, climbing playground equipment, or doing any other unreasonably dangerous activity. The duty of every responsible parent is to push for protection of our children from this lethal threat. Protect our kids! Ban the bikes! PS And I don't even need to mention other dangerous transportation devices such as rollerskates, skateboards, and skis. Even adults shouldn't be allowed to operate these devices without proper safety training and a license. EDIT: [/SARCASM] [ Wednesday, November 01, 2006 15:57: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 11:17
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All that talk about elections must be making me pick more opinionated answers than usual: -4.38 Economic, 0.62 Social Usually my results range from -2 to -4 on economic scale and from -2 to 0 on social scale. [ Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:17: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 11:10
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To clarify, when I said "yes", I meant the answer to my question about government providing servicies. This would correspond to "no" vote for this measure. I understand that the measure offers to directly limit spending, rather than limiting taxes, but it's the same effect. (You can look at California for what happens if you limit taxes without limiting spending. We haven't had a balanced budget in years and have to pass bonds for everything, including bonds to cover general budget shortfall a few years ago.) -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 09:41
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The decision is quite simple: do you think the government should be providing you with free education, roads, social safety net (unemployment, healthcare, retirement), prisons and police force, etc. If the answer is "yes", you have to pay for it in the form of higher taxes. [ Wednesday, November 01, 2006 09:42: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, November 1 2006 09:36
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On that note, where can I find Gold Box games everybody keeps talking about in these threads? I tried downloading Pool of Radiance from some abandonware site, but it didn't work even in DosBox. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 31 2006 15:32
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quote:The current system, as flawed as it is, is probably as good as we can do under the circumstances. The main point of my example was to show you that there are "strong" people who fit every bit of your definition of strength, but do not make much money. So completely free market does not always reward the ones who are most deserving. quote:It might not be apparent from the few political arguments I've been involved in here, but my economic views are pretty similar to what you percieve *i's to be. (around -2 on economic axis of political compass) quote:Do not confuse civility with cowardice. Lobbing random insults is always the easiest thing to do, but it shuts down any meaningful conversation. For example, Tulegolar has shown willingness to admit that there are inconsistencies in his view of the world, which means that this conversation is not completely pointless, unless it degenerates into kindergarden-style namecalling. And while we are at it, brainwashing is much more likely explanation for Tullegolar's views. (His economic education apparently missed concepts such as "externalities", boom/bust cycles of the market, etc. As for his moral education, let's not even go there.) I remember the one-dimentional world view that was installed in students' heads in Soviet schools, so I can understand somebody being equally brainwashed in the opposite direction. [ Tuesday, October 31, 2006 15:39: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 31 2006 12:04
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quote:There are two questions here: 1) how backwards was early XXth century Russia, and 2) whether it was possible to get to where we are today without killing millions of people. 1. Based on the information that became available after collapse of USSR, Russia of 1913 was not as far behind America as Russia of 1985. Russia did begin industrializing relatively late, but the process was already well under way by the time it was disrupted by years of wars (WWI, followed by Civil War). It's hard to get accurate information from under all the spin, but I am pretty sure that overall Russia wasn't far behind America at the start of last century. (As an example, both countries abolished slavery at about the same time.) 2. America handled industrialization as well as Russia without need for killing millions of people in concentration camps and by starvation from forced collectivization. (The tens of millions numbers of Stalin's victims are obviously exaggerated, but most reasonable people agree that he killed at least several million people.) For example, both in America and in Russia most of the farming is now done on massive industrial farms. However, America got there without the need to kill over a million people in forced collectivisation. While it was painful for small farmers in America to lose their livelihood, it wasn't as painful as being sent into concentration camp or starving in a famine in USSR. PS Talking about Leninism, Lenin himself recongized the need for private interpreneurship and allowed small business under "New Economic Policy" (NEP) in late 1920s. Unfortunately, after his death the hard-line wing of communist party led by Stalin won the power struggle and we know how that turned out. EDIT: This post was talking about industrialization and collectivisation, rather than current economic situation, so I didn't mention that by "what 75 years of building communism can do to a country" I meant the current economic situation, with most industry technologically backwards and incapable of meeting consumer demand. (Chronic shortages of 1980s didn't disapper with USSR's collapse. The main change was that now the limiting factor became availability of money. So while shops are now filled with goods, most people still can't have them, now due to lack of money.) [ Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:09: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 31 2006 10:56
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Tullegolar, first, thank you for maintaining civil tone of discussion despite insults directed at you. In your posts about science and particularly MBAs vs. PhDs comparisons, it seems you imagine scientists as anti-social inventors locking themselves in their labs working on arcane gadgets. This image is very far from what a real professors’ job is like. In fact, famous professors are a lot more similar to businessmen than to the inventors you think of. Every research professor leads a staff of grad students and lab assistants (PhD equivalent of your “bean counters”) and has to do a lot of fundraising every year. In fact, success of professors at American universities is determined more by how much money they can bring in than by how brilliant their ideas are. In the business world, startups have to do two or three major rounds of fundraising. A university professor has to do fundraising (writing grant proposals, looking for corporate partners, etc.) every year. So by your definition of “charisma”, successful university professors have at least as much of it as leaders of successful startup companies. They also raise money, manage large staff, market their “product” (promoting their research), etc. However, these professors get paid orders of magnitude less than leaders of startups. For a most obvious example, let’s look at the people who got this year’s Nobel Prize in physics. The research for which they got the prize was conducted by a team of about a thousand people. So these people have enough “charisma” and “ambition” to lead a large organization (including everything from fundraising to directing research to personnel decisions) and have enough intelligence to conduct the best research in the world. The most comparable people in the business world would be founders of Google. These people also lead a team of about a thousand people (it recently expanded to several thousands), making one of the most advanced products of the day. The founders of Google got billions of dollars for their work. The Nobel Prize-winning scientists got a million. Both groups showed equal “charisma” securing funding for and leading large organizations. Both had the intelligence to perform some of the best research in the world. However, the leaders of team working on applied research got paid a thousand times more than the leaders of a team working on basic research. Going back to the MBAs v. PhDs comparison, the right comparison for MBAs who work as lowly bean counters is PhDs who work as lab assistants. If you make that comparison, you’ll see that MBAs still get a lot more money than PhDs, despite doing simpler job. The final question is “whose work is more beneficial to society?” And here the answer is also obvious: if there was no Bill Gates, we’d be using Apple computers. If there was no Google, we’d be using Yahoo search engine. If there was no Charles Babbage, we wouldn’t be having this conversation, because there would be no computers in the world. Charles Babbage, a nineteenth century scientist, invented the principles of modern computers long before there was technology to build one. Without his work, we would still be using arithmometers and typewriters. (His research was the kind of major breakthrough that would never happen if all smart people went into business working on improving typewriters.) Charles Babbage died in poverty, while Bill Gates is the richest man in the world. The point of this example is to show you the failure of the free market. As I’ve described, the people leading basic research have at least as much “charisma”, ambition, leadership and management skills, and intelligence as the people leading startup companies. However, they get paid up to a thousand times less for doing work that is more beneficial to society than the work of businessmen. PS As for socialism vs. capitalism, it’s a false dichotomy. Communism is as repulsive to me as the kind of unrestrained capitalism you seem to be advocating. (I emigrated from Russia, so I’ve seen what 75 years of building communism can do to a country.) -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 31 2006 10:02
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quote:You could e-mail it to yourself. Or you could ask *i or Drakey to tell it to you. (One of the "nice" features of UBB is that admins can see your password. In fact, you should assume that admins of any message board can see your password.) EDIT: Looks like I missed the last page. This post will be edited in with something slightly more relevant. EDIT2: After reading the page I've missed it appears my post is just as relevant as the rest of this thread. :P [ Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:10: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Monday, October 30 2006 18:51
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Very nice, as always. I particularly liked the descriptions of the forums. PS With the couple of new unsellable trowels we got lately, it was nice to see their prototype in tech support. (I think it's time to take that insult out of its resting place in the old Geneforge forum. :) ) -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Monday, October 30 2006 16:19
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quote:Isn't that what moderators are for? If mods haven't given him any warnings, he is unlikely to be banned right away. If they have given him warnings, additional yelling is unnecessary. I know that backseat moderation isn't viewed too harshly here, but it's still not the duty of every member to yell at people for breaking rules. (This isn't directed at you personally, but at everybody who enjoys backseat moderation.) -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Monday, October 30 2006 15:20
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Nioca, in case this wasn't clear, Fatman (2bit) and Salmon like sarcasm and most of their posts contain at least some parts that shouldn't be taken seriously. I am pretty sure fatman was joking, and Salmon even included the ;) smiley in his post. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Monday, October 30 2006 15:14
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quote:There is already a user named X on these boards (member #496). If it's ok for you to take a similar name, it shouldn't be a problem for XxX either. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Monday, October 30 2006 14:34
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quote:You are still missing the main point: 1. Without basic research done by people like Schrodinger and Hiesenberg we wouldn't have modern computers. It doesn't matter how smart your aplied scientists are, but they can't make a major breakthrough without a lot of basic research. 2. The definition of basic research is that it has no practical applications at the time. It took many decades for practical applications of Einstein's work to become apparent. No matter how smart Einstein was, he couldn't make any practical applications for his research, because it took decades of work by many scientists to go from abstract theory to a product that can be sold. Here is another example that is easier to explain: Think about communication satellites. The ones that allow reporters to instantly submit news stories from around the world, allow you to get a wide variety of channels not carried by your local cable carrier, etc. This is an example of applied science. Some company spends a few hundred million dollars to launch a satellite like this and eventually starts making a profit when the costs of research and production are paid off years later. However, it took many billions of dollars to figure out how to launch satellites without them burning up or exploding, how to keep those satellites in desired orbit, how to get a reliable signal in desired location, etc. That multibillion dollar bill was paid by governments of USA and USSR. If these governments didn't pay for this basic research, any company that wanted to launch a communications satellite would have to spend, many billions, rather than a few hundred million. This would make communication satellites so unprofitable that no company would even think of launching them. This is how research works in the real world: first government pays a lot of money for basic research whose only purpose is to improve our understanding of the universe (quantum theory, space program). Next companies take that research and do the easy job of turning it into marketable products (modern computers, communication satellites). Most companies couldn't afford to do their own basic research. And while government definitely could take the relatively cheap step of turning results of its research into marketable products, that would be ... communism. [ Monday, October 30, 2006 14:38: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Friday, October 27 2006 10:18
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I always play the games on normal difficulty, because I can't enjoy the role-playing aspect of a game if I am too conserned with game mechanics. Once I get deep enough into game mechanics to play on highest difficulty, the game turns into a bunch of numbers, and I already have other games that are intended to be just a bunch of numbers. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |