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Summoning in Blades of Avernum Editor
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Thursday, March 17 2005 10:20 Profile #4
quote:
Originally written by DreamGuy:

This is slightly off the topic, maybe, but I was shocked to discover that summonings somehow can grab creatures from another scenario you had open recently. I have one I am working on where I was testing out variations of the basic monsters in, and when I returned to a save file of the KZR scenario and did an Arcane Summons suddenly these monsters I had been working on from my scenario showed up. It was way bizarre.

And, for some odd reason, during some summonings in both Bahs and Backwater, the giants that showed up were missing the top half of the graphic, so the giant legs were running around attacking people. I don't know if both of those scenarios change the settings for that monster so it only uses one graphic instead of the normal two (if so, why???), or if there's some other sort of wonkiness going on.

The reason I bring this up is I'm thinking of trying to make PC summons restricted to certain kinds of monsters in my scenario, but the examples I ran into above imply that even if I come up with a way, weird monsters from other scenarios (or bizarre nightmares like the torso-less giants) might accidentally show up anyway.
In the data script, the monster data is wrong. This has nothing to do with custom scenarios. You need to correct the values to get the giant to have a full body.

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Summoning in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Thursday, March 17 2005 10:20 Profile #4
quote:
Originally written by DreamGuy:

This is slightly off the topic, maybe, but I was shocked to discover that summonings somehow can grab creatures from another scenario you had open recently. I have one I am working on where I was testing out variations of the basic monsters in, and when I returned to a save file of the KZR scenario and did an Arcane Summons suddenly these monsters I had been working on from my scenario showed up. It was way bizarre.

And, for some odd reason, during some summonings in both Bahs and Backwater, the giants that showed up were missing the top half of the graphic, so the giant legs were running around attacking people. I don't know if both of those scenarios change the settings for that monster so it only uses one graphic instead of the normal two (if so, why???), or if there's some other sort of wonkiness going on.

The reason I bring this up is I'm thinking of trying to make PC summons restricted to certain kinds of monsters in my scenario, but the examples I ran into above imply that even if I come up with a way, weird monsters from other scenarios (or bizarre nightmares like the torso-less giants) might accidentally show up anyway.
In the data script, the monster data is wrong. This has nothing to do with custom scenarios. You need to correct the values to get the giant to have a full body.

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My ego is bigger than yours.
Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
IDEA: The Pearl Contest in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Thursday, March 17 2005 07:06 Profile #6
quote:
Originally written by Fringy MacGee:

how about this. take your idea, but make it a 24-design challenge. get the idea then design as much as you can in 24 hours and release it. now that would be funny.
That is very evil.

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HLPM v1.1.2 released in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 19:40 Profile #49
quote:
Originally written by Lord Baron Von Toast:

Slip in a few items that can only be found in the HLPM-- nothing powerful, just unusual. I know this is supposed to be an editor, but it might be interesting to see a few unique items here and there.

One of the items that can only be found in the HLPM not the scenarios so far is Polished Platemail. Another is Micah's Gloves.

Nothing quite so powerful, however.
Or

Why not?

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Summoning in Blades of Avernum Editor
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 19:31 Profile #2
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. Thank you Kelandon.

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Summoning in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 19:31 Profile #2
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. Thank you Kelandon.

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HLPM v1.1.2 released in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 19:29 Profile #47
Add silly items.

Pants of Constriction (-1 Dex, -10 Health, Cursed)
Brassiere of Pain (-10 Intelligence)
Wand of Vibration (??)
Clockwork Gnome (Summon one Gnome (pixie?))
Rusted Screw (Summon one Blade Golem)
Tissue (To cry with)
Live Wire (Casts lvl 1 Lightning Spray)
Hiking Boots (+1 Pathfinder, Better than average defense)
Cell Phone (Sylak the Talking Skull version 2!)
Laughing Gas (Charmed & Drunk status effects)
Pretty Girl (Summon one Jock (Guard?))
Book of Useless Items (Lists what items are for!)
Aspirin (Heal a little (little!!!))

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Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
Summoning in Blades of Avernum Editor
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 19:18 Profile #0
Are the monsters that can be summoned via the built-in spells set to certain monsters or to the monster ID. If I replace the ID, does the summon also change?

Or is it limited to Hostile, Level Specific monsters? If I boosted Arcane Summon high enough, could I summon any creature? Is there a way to exclude certain creatures from being summonable?

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Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
Summoning in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 19:18 Profile #0
Are the monsters that can be summoned via the built-in spells set to certain monsters or to the monster ID. If I replace the ID, does the summon also change?

Or is it limited to Hostile, Level Specific monsters? If I boosted Arcane Summon high enough, could I summon any creature? Is there a way to exclude certain creatures from being summonable?

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Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
Backwater Call's: Marnok's Riddle in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 19:12 Profile #3
It is not "revenge" is it? I haven't played yet. One of these days...

Edit:
Oh. Nevermind. The answer is Death.

[ Wednesday, March 16, 2005 19:14: Message edited by: Dahak ]

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IDEA: The Pearl Contest in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 16:46 Profile #2
Hm. How about "You (party) created (unknowingly) your own worst enemy"?

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Avernum pixies in a nutshell in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 16:41 Profile #1
That whole ground pixie for pixie dust part. I don't think that is from Exile/Avernum. I believe it is from.. Um. I don't remember what, but it was either a book or a movie. Dang. I can't remember the title.

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Buggy Dialog in Blades of Avernum Editor
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 13:57 Profile #6
I just copied this from the first post:
code = if (species_in_party(3) == 0)

Is there a species #3? I thought the valid range was 0-2.

Edit:
Try adding get_species(which_char) to the dialog code. After it runs through the party members, you can see values it returns. Maybe there is a problem with the program.

[ Wednesday, March 16, 2005 19:10: Message edited by: Dahak ]

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My ego is bigger than yours.
Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
Buggy Dialog in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Wednesday, March 16 2005 13:57 Profile #6
I just copied this from the first post:
code = if (species_in_party(3) == 0)

Is there a species #3? I thought the valid range was 0-2.

Edit:
Try adding get_species(which_char) to the dialog code. After it runs through the party members, you can see values it returns. Maybe there is a problem with the program.

[ Wednesday, March 16, 2005 19:10: Message edited by: Dahak ]

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problems with inserting graphics in Blades of Avernum Editor
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Tuesday, March 15 2005 14:38 Profile #3
Okay. Lets see. You have a properly named cmg file. The resource number does not conflict. You have the data script calling the correct resource number. As long as those 3 are met, then you should have no problems.

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Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
problems with inserting graphics in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Tuesday, March 15 2005 14:38 Profile #3
Okay. Lets see. You have a properly named cmg file. The resource number does not conflict. You have the data script calling the correct resource number. As long as those 3 are met, then you should have no problems.

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My ego is bigger than yours.
Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
problems with inserting graphics in Blades of Avernum Editor
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Tuesday, March 15 2005 13:04 Profile #1
Do not open the scenario. Open the scenario's .cmg file. It stores the game's resources. If you do not have a .cmg file, then create one.

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Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
problems with inserting graphics in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Tuesday, March 15 2005 13:04 Profile #1
Do not open the scenario. Open the scenario's .cmg file. It stores the game's resources. If you do not have a .cmg file, then create one.

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My ego is bigger than yours.
Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
Buggy Dialog in Blades of Avernum Editor
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Tuesday, March 15 2005 09:18 Profile #2
Use break;

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My ego is bigger than yours.
Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
Buggy Dialog in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Tuesday, March 15 2005 09:18 Profile #2
Use break;

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Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
more expensive magic in Blades of Avernum Editor
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Monday, March 14 2005 19:37 Profile #13
I often switch the first two characters. I hate going in and out of combat, so I just walk into them enemy to kill them. Combat mode is for long-range enemies. When I tire of using the first, I swap them.

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Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
more expensive magic in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Monday, March 14 2005 19:37 Profile #13
I often switch the first two characters. I hate going in and out of combat, so I just walk into them enemy to kill them. Combat mode is for long-range enemies. When I tire of using the first, I swap them.

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Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
more expensive magic in Blades of Avernum Editor
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Monday, March 14 2005 18:58 Profile #11
I always wondered. If you remove spells or levels from a character, how do you give them back to the correct character? I mean, what if the party order is swapped?

Edit:
Always check your spelling BEFORE you post....
*Grumble*

[ Monday, March 14, 2005 19:00: Message edited by: Dahak ]

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My ego is bigger than yours.
Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
more expensive magic in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Monday, March 14 2005 18:58 Profile #11
I always wondered. If you remove spells or levels from a character, how do you give them back to the correct character? I mean, what if the party order is swapped?

Edit:
Always check your spelling BEFORE you post....
*Grumble*

[ Monday, March 14, 2005 19:00: Message edited by: Dahak ]

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Posts: 480 | Registered: Thursday, October 11 2001 07:00
Monster/Puzzle/Item Thread in Blades of Avernum
Dahak
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Member # 148
 written Monday, March 14 2005 06:40 Profile #41
I haven't tried this yet, but I was thinking of a switched ability monster. There is a command to change innate monster abilities. How about, invisiblity switched with paralysis? Every turn it it turn invisible, and when it goes to attack, the invisibility drop and the monster has paralysis.

I have to see if this would work though.

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