Saddam Hussein's Execution
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Guardian
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written Tuesday, January 2 2007 12:15
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quote:I have no reason to doubt you. But if I were a Sunni, I'd feel the insult even more strongly. -------------------- Polaris Rache's A3 Site reformatted 2/3 done Rache's A3 Site, original version Posts: 1828 | Registered: Saturday, January 11 2003 08:00 |
Lifecrafter
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written Tuesday, January 2 2007 17:01
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quote:I know what I'm doing. :) ...except that bit about dropping the rope while he was in the middle of a prayer, filming his lowest moment on a cellphone, putting the video on YouTube and the officers taunting him was more of an improvisation on their part. I'm going to have a few words to say to those disrespectful scumbags. Jeesh. Incidentally, the Capital Steps once did a song called "The Sunni Side of Takrit" (Sunny Side of the Street). Good times, good times. [ Tuesday, January 02, 2007 17:22: Message edited by: Robinator is a Beefcake ] -------------------- Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. 'Spiderweb Software' anagrammmed: 'Word-bereft A**wipe' Posts: 702 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, January 2 2007 19:12
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Yeah, the fact that it was recorded at all is a bit disgusting. It just feels wrong... haven't seen the video, though. -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
Agent
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written Tuesday, January 2 2007 19:55
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Article I found on AOL News. Thought some of you might be interested. quote:Edit: Even if this story is a load of bullcrap, it just goes to show, even though he committed horrible crimes, Saddam was still human. [ Tuesday, January 02, 2007 19:59: Message edited by: Enraged Slith ] Posts: 1233 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, January 2 2007 22:38
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Actually filming the execution and showing it on national television makes sense. Most Iraqis wouldn't believe that the execution had happened without some public display. After all since Saddam Hussein used decoy doubles to guard against assassination, even the US wasn't sure that they had the real one without DNA testing. Rumors that he was still alive would have resulted. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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written Tuesday, January 2 2007 23:59
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Well bush stole the ride and the horse so i stick with that. Any way the Saddam execution and trial was buying time for the leaving americans out of iraqk, some are still there but they should go home because for now the rift between shîad and sunizes will burst and kill a lot of people and since the crusaides islam is being pushed around by europens . If people fight an unjust war and don't see further than their noses they will suffer that condition just like military in iraqk they will suffer and die .We must open our eyes because we are destroying ourselves with our own weponds, we will or may end up like the early shapers as bunch of shades and fleeing people . [ Wednesday, January 03, 2007 00:03: Message edited by: upon mars ] -------------------- You can jump off a bridge, fire a gun in your mouth, drink poison,or going in to the tiger's pit but you will still end up dead it's a mater of time and how . Posts: 312 | Registered: Sunday, November 26 2006 08:00 |
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written Wednesday, January 3 2007 00:01
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quote:You didn't miss much. It was a poor recording at best. But for crying out loud. Posting it on YouTube?! It shouldn't even have been released for the public! Sometimes, I really wish they'd monitor that site and take out some of the things of somewhat "bad taste". I mean I like YouTube and everything, but sheesh! -------------------- Do not provoke the turtles. They do not like being provoked. -Lenar My website: Nemesis' Refuge Posts: 743 | Registered: Friday, September 29 2006 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, January 3 2007 00:06
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yeah the camera crew are in a lot of trouble and don't you get it they are treating Saddam as a dead tiger and making a show out of it, mankind at it's worst. Form the deepest of my gust and sol i say this : Saddam is a product of what is wrong in mankind why don't we try to open our mind look in his point of view.Those pepole like Stalin and hitler are part of us until we find a way to cure ill mindness we can't juge or treat pepole the way like that. We should understand our selves before understanding others. [ Wednesday, January 03, 2007 00:25: Message edited by: upon mars ] -------------------- You can jump off a bridge, fire a gun in your mouth, drink poison,or going in to the tiger's pit but you will still end up dead it's a mater of time and how . Posts: 312 | Registered: Sunday, November 26 2006 08:00 |
Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, January 3 2007 11:14
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Look, I see what you mean, but probably the only reason my brain didn't filter it out is that I've been watching a lot of the Twilight Zone lately. I'm personally of the belief that we can't 'cure' the thing you call 'ill-mindness', whatever you meant. And if people are guilty of treating Saddam like a dead tiger, it's because he kind of is one. He was a serious threat (like a live tiger at close range would be), and he's dead now, so we have a reason to celebrate (threat removed). As for what's wrong with mankind... I guess it's that pesky old free will. Or maybe it's the inherent variation in the species. So I see your point. The solution is radical thought control and genetic manipulation at birth! (If the sarcasm didn't take hold, there's nothing wrong with 'mankind'. There's stuff wrong with individuals. But the quirks of humanity are nothing that a few billion years of group therapy couldn't cure. :P ) quote:Form the deepest of your and ? -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
Councilor
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written Wednesday, January 3 2007 11:30
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Originally by Ephesos: quote:Implants are cheaper. :P Dikiyoba. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
Infiltrator
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written Wednesday, January 3 2007 13:07
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Adbots I say. -------------------- "Dikiyoba ... is demon ... drives people mad and ... do all sorts of strange things." "You Spiderwebbians are mad, mad, mad as March hares." Posts: 687 | Registered: Wednesday, January 19 2005 08:00 |
Triad Mage
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written Wednesday, January 3 2007 13:07
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I really don't want to lock this thread, but if you don't get back on topic then I will. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, January 3 2007 14:19
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quote:One wonders whether the potential denial of his death by his supporters could have been as damaging as the definite rage of his supporters at the manner of his execution. A spectre neither visibly alive nor evidently dead against a fully dead martyr? On that note, has anyone seen Bin Laden on TV lately? Short-term thinking is dangerous. [ Wednesday, January 03, 2007 14:20: Message edited by: Arancaytar ] -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
Guardian
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written Wednesday, January 3 2007 14:47
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I'd like to quote part of a comment I read on BBC. quote:The question remains however how that mobile phone was smuggled into the execution chamber, and who ordered the shootage. What looks so spontaneous can well have been staged, so who profits. And how come the thing was on YouTube in almost next to no time. [ Wednesday, January 03, 2007 15:09: Message edited by: ef ] -------------------- Polaris Rache's A3 Site reformatted 2/3 done Rache's A3 Site, original version Posts: 1828 | Registered: Saturday, January 11 2003 08:00 |
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written Friday, January 5 2007 23:53
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If you could understand Arabic you might have understood this so-called lynch mob was not at all unruly, and was in-fact a very religious settling of the books the way gentlemen do but this is father's opinion not mine...As for me I don't understand Arabic nor does he. :D And i wanted to say i to Ephe was From my guts and soul sorry, and about total changing ourselves: NATURE FOBIDS TOTAL CONTROL of our genetic make up. The way that we educate as a society is making us ill. I don't say that all people are good at birth, some people are born to kill, or born mad , but i say that education makes us what we are. [ Sunday, January 14, 2007 01:25: Message edited by: upon mars ] -------------------- You can jump off a bridge, fire a gun in your mouth, drink poison,or going in to the tiger's pit but you will still end up dead it's a mater of time and how . Posts: 312 | Registered: Sunday, November 26 2006 08:00 |
Law Bringer
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written Saturday, January 6 2007 02:38
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Upon, I'm sorry to say this, but your incoherence makes it a challenge to understand what you're saying. I understand English isn't your first language, but if you tried to put your thoughts in complete sentences, I'm sure it would be a lot more understandable. -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
Law Bringer
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written Saturday, January 6 2007 03:13
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From what I've seen of the news reports, there were two filmed versions of the execution. The official one was done and aired without sound. The YouTube one was unofficial one done on a cell phone by a Shiite faction that deliberately baited Saddam Hussein as he was been lead to the execution over his murder of one of their leaders. Some of those involved have been arrested, but this was done for political reasons to get a response as opposed to the official version that was meant to prove that the execution was carried out. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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written Saturday, January 6 2007 18:04
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quote:Aran, isn't English your second language too? -------------------- Do not provoke the turtles. They do not like being provoked. -Lenar My website: Nemesis' Refuge Posts: 743 | Registered: Friday, September 29 2006 07:00 |
Shaper
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written Saturday, January 6 2007 18:23
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(In reference to the article posted by Enraged Slith) Sickening. Before, you could at least take some comfort 'knowing' that Saddam was a brutal monster. Now... quote:He's said that he also is dyslexic. So it's probably difficult and time consuming for him to post in the first place. [ Saturday, January 06, 2007 19:33: Message edited by: Nioca ] -------------------- I tried to think of something witty to put here. Needless to say, I failed. Posts: 2686 | Registered: Friday, September 8 2006 07:00 |
Warrior
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written Saturday, January 6 2007 19:26
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quote:It is not necessary to be good in order to be nice. Posts: 66 | Registered: Sunday, May 28 2006 07:00 |
Shaper
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written Saturday, January 6 2007 19:35
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No. But it still shows that there was still some compassion left. In other words, he was still human. -------------------- I tried to think of something witty to put here. Needless to say, I failed. Posts: 2686 | Registered: Friday, September 8 2006 07:00 |
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written Saturday, January 6 2007 20:08
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quote:Yar. Up until the end Saddam maintained that everything he did had been "for Iraq." As many and varied as people are, they're all still people——even dictators. I can't believe he was really evil, and killed people "for fun" or whatever people think he was doing. Not even Hitler killed people for fun; it was all for what he believed was a good reason. Before anyone starts yelling, I'm not remotely condoning any Fascist scumbagism. But Saddam was probably just the victim of some golden dream for the benefit of his country that started going wrong in terms of humanity. Still, you can't really question his efficiency; even though Stalin was a corrupt despot too, "he kept the trains on time." I think he was using the most effective (if totally the most wrong) method of having a country with as few internal conflicts as possible. I mean, you didn't see a whole lot of insurgents in pre-war Iraq. [ Saturday, January 06, 2007 20:13: Message edited by: Robinator is a Beefcake ] -------------------- Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. 'Spiderweb Software' anagrammmed: 'Word-bereft A**wipe' Posts: 702 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
Law Bringer
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written Saturday, January 6 2007 21:29
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quote:Upon, I'm not sure if you noticed, but I was attempting to use sarcasm to counteract your melodramatic post. I do apologize for the joke, though... Education isn't the only thing, unless you just mean the process of learning. There's experience as well, not to mention the unpredictable effects of letting the ideas in one's head run around colliding with one another. I feel like you're reacting to the wrong part of my post, upon. -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
Infiltrator
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written Sunday, January 7 2007 08:02
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How did the US end up getting Saddam when they were after Bin Laden? -------------------- He may look like an idiot, and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot. Posts: 586 | Registered: Saturday, October 20 2001 07:00 |
Shaper
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written Sunday, January 7 2007 08:26
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We're just awesome like that. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |