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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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LP, you also seem to assume that the shapers had to hide, or hid against the will of the citizens, perhaps the civilians didn't want the shapers to go, and in fact would not let the shapers sacrifice themselves so they would survive. So, because of that, the rebels kill everyone since they don't agree with what the rebels agree in. Yup, I see your point. The shapers are cruel maniacs because they are killing an enemy that would do the same to them. While the rebels just kill farmers who don't agree with the rules they would instate. It isn't everyday that you see a farmer take down three or four shapers (or rebels) before being killed, but a drakon or eyebeast is perfectly capable of doing such a thing.

[ Tuesday, February 26, 2008 16:05: Message edited by: The Ratt ]

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G5 wishlist. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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quote:
Originally written by Nick Ringer:

B A G G A G E O R N K S !
I H A V E A H A R D T I M E R E A D I N G S T U F F L I K E T H I S S O P L E A S E D O N ' T D O I T A N Y M O R E ! ! ! !

For those that have a hard time reading that: I have a hard time reading stuff like this so please don't do it anymore!!!!

Capitals and exclaimations generally work fine. And past G4 the only reason baggage ornks would be useful is so you can carry more items, which, though useful, is quite unrealistic.

"Oh no, a wingbolt! I think I have some icy crystals from two chapters ago that are good against these, let me just rummage through the three packs of random items on my ornk."

Also what happens if the ornk gets killed?

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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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One thing you forgot, is maybe the civilians in the towns that didn't expel their shapers were actually happy with the way the towns were being run. Perhaps the towns wouldn't even exist if not for the shapers stationed there. You seem to have completely forgotten that is possible.

Also with all those destroyed farms and mines, don't you think that survivors (assuming the rebels aren't cruel enough to kill everyone, which you make it sound like they do) would have a hard time making a living afterwards, especially if mining or farming was the main way of income? And then do you think those survivors would be happy with the rebels?

"Oh thank you for destroying my home and source of income. I can never thank you enough for all the happiness you have granted me simply by displacing me from the land, killing almost everyone I know, and overthrowing the tyrants that protected us from the dangers outside, healed us when we were sick, and helped form the base of the economy."

Edit: slight tweak

[ Monday, February 25, 2008 18:40: Message edited by: The Ratt ]

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AAAAAAAH!!! in General
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For me, I got four colledge (for some reason I can never spell this word) letters at the end of my freshmen year, and none through at least 3/4 of my sophmore year. What is the logic behind that?

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G5 wishlist. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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I agree that stunning is quite useful, but I believe tat it is so low in G4 is that otherwise, glaaks, some vlish, and most battle creations would just stun you into oblivion.

I have not taken the time to try out A5 and therefore do not know much about the battle disiplines (see I can't even spell it right), but adding them to battle creations sounds like good compensation for the cost of essence; though it could cause balance problems if all battle creations get them, and some people may be confused on how to use them or the likes.

[ Monday, February 25, 2008 14:44: Message edited by: The Ratt ]

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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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For some reason, Dikiyoba I think you are right. Check in G4 since that is the game I am most familiar with, and therefore it is most likely from.

Also, even though this is a few posts late. Stop saying that the Geneforge series, or any of the games, are like what the nazis did to the Jews. There are a few similarities, but more differences.

Edit: 400th post

[ Monday, February 25, 2008 14:37: Message edited by: The Ratt ]

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A Fun Little Project of Mine in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Awww... you can't hit yourself with a fireball. :P

Health and enemies. And maybe a spell that you can hit yourself with.

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Congratulations Jeff in General
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Me too. There are almost no good, non-mmorpgs out there. And half of the ones out there don't work on mac (no vista).

[ Saturday, February 23, 2008 18:36: Message edited by: The Ratt ]

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Evolving creationl. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Do you mean making, let's say, a cryoa instead of a fyora? Or turning a fyora into a cryoa after it's been created? Or turning a fyora into a roamer after it's been created? Be more specific.

For the questions I said: For the first one, click on create creation button, then, if you have enough shaping of the required type, and a skill of 3 or more of the creation, there should be a plus sign in one of the bottom corners, which if you click, turns it into a variant (which could be considered evolved) form. For the second and third one, it's not possible. Also some creations and creation variants, such as rotdizoins, golems, brutal thalds, unbound, and others, are not available to you in the game to shape.

[ Friday, February 22, 2008 20:57: Message edited by: The Ratt ]

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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quote:
Originally written by Goldenking:

So, who's killed first in E5? As you know, E5 is the end of the first, possibly only, trilogy, so Diki is likely going to kill everyone. Again.

Anyways, a few likely firsts:
-Emperor Tullegolar, for Treason
-Jeran Korak, for Arrogance
-Me, for trying to Profit off the War*
-Some random newbie
-Whoever's Scouting
-Tyranicus, just because

*Just give War a Chance

FYT.

Also, my name gives the impression of useful fodder.

[ Thursday, February 21, 2008 19:10: Message edited by: The Ratt ]

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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I second that. Also please don't start a flamefest.

Diki: The ending was not what I expected but it sets up the scene for a great sequel that I look forward to reading.

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Congratulations Jeff in General
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Traitor. Why would you want to try to stab Jeff?

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Hey, Aran isn't perma-dead!

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Whenever you talk about the rats at all, I think of something like this.

IMAGE(http://www.evocacion.com/magic-the-gathering/traidores-de-kamigawa/mimg/shinobi-de-la-banda-okiba.jpg)

Which is also what I would want to look like in the episodes.

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Nyyyoron~! in General
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Dip: Since I have been on the boards, you have been the fastest person to get from 0 to 50 posts. How do you manage that in under half a month. That's 3.3333 posts per day.

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The Handy Abominable Photo Thread in General
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Does your boss ever notice?

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Nyyyoron~! in General
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I fear for my life. Quite literally.

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What is better Shapers or Rebels? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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If I am forced to choose between shapers or rebels I go with shapers all the way. At current the shapers have the right ideals of keeping shaping out of the hands of the common man. In fact if you think about it the main reason the shapers have to be so harsh is because people are jealous. Common people are jealous of the fact that shapers can create servants to do the work for them, and can create life. They don't realize the power though, and if they don't understand the power they will be more likely to misuse it. The reason the shapers have had to crack down on the availability of shaping is because of power nuts that would use the power to take over and rule as a tyrant.

Also for those of you who argue that the shaping techniques are inhumane, and that the shapers act inhumane by not helping villages.

Don't you think that a misshapen creature would be in agony the minute it was created? So why not kill it right away if it's in pain. For those of you who argue that making a creature in pain is inhumane, the creature itself probably doesn't gain a sense of being or pain until it is almost completely created and is not in the world long enough to suffer too much.

For those of you who think shapers think that not helping a village is inhumane, the Shapers need to consider what the effects of introducing a new species will do for the surrounding enviroment. Think about Drypeak in G2, with the wiry trees overgrowing everything. That could happen every time shapers introduce a new species, so what if they introduced a new grain that grew so plentiful and couldn't be contained that it overran open fields and forests, and eventually stripped the land of the nuitrients. And I personally think that if an area can't support mildly modified plants, then that area is probably not worth settling. Or at least not by getting food by farming.

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

No. No bribes, no increasing your post count, no begging, nothing. I will include you or I will not. It depends on how the plot works out. And bribes, post count, and annoying me do not help the plot work out in your favor.

This is very true. Look at me. I asked many times and eventually Diki PM'd me a virus that would have destroyed my hard drive if I didn't have a mac. I stopped asking after that incident.

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Wow, i found it. in General
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For some reason I can't decide if the engine Jeff would licinse would be a modified version of the Basilisk games engine, or a different one.

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2008 Movies you're looking forward to in General
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10,000 B.C.

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Good as usual. And I was right about Nikki.

Also, since Shard of Fire might not get around to yelling at you for it, she's a girl.

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Favorite Creation? in Geneforge Series
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How could you forget ornks?

Also you forgot all advanced creations except eyebeasts, and in that case you forgot gazers.

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Getting political in General
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What if we don't like any of them?

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Spiderweb Demographics 2008 in General
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Welcome to Spiderweb, please leave your sanity at the door.

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