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Originally written by Actaeon:

Being among your peers is a privilege, not a burden, and should be weighed with other factors when making such a decision.

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Originally written by Starman1985:

I still beleive you can't use them there to powerful not be overlooked.

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Originally written by SkeleTony:

You are posing irrelevant questions here.

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It will still exist as a can of soda + water/frosting/piss regardless of what words you use to describe/label it. (emphasis added)

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To put it yet another way, what do two cans of soda have in common with, say, two horses?

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They both exist regardless of what we think/believe about them(or DON'T). An unaware person can trip over the can of soda and another person can come along an hour later without being cognizant of the can's presence and trip over the same can. A horse might trample both of them.

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That is absurd. What is illogical about understanding how things work and expecting them to work as inference would dictate by the mechanisms involved?

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Have you heard of David Hume?

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Yeah he used to front the Talking Heads before going solo in the 80's right? No waitaminute...he is that guy with the stick up his arse on Fox News right?

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Deduction, induction and bald assertions notwithstanding, I am not buying what you are selling.

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If I grab what we now call "one"(a singular item) can of soda and set it next to my monitor next to ANOTHER can of soda, then I have TWO cans of soda, regardless of whether we call this quantity "two" or "Sleestack".

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Originally written by SkeleTony:

So you are saying that no matter how repeatably we can demonstrate a ball rolls downhill(as opposed to straight up into the sky or changing into a big marshmallow or whatever) when released from the top of said hill, we should not infer that gravity works as it apparently does?! That just because we do not observe splitting atoms to result, by direct inference, in gold coins spewing from volcanoes half a world away is not reason to conclude that there is no reason to infer such a thing?!

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Originally written by Locmaar:

But you don't have to a Platonist to find the very idea of things existing outside the human mind appealing. Either way, math as a language is a human invention, the principles behind it are at best human discoveries... I think... eh...

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Originally written by Locmaar:

Another way of putting it: we need a language like math to describe the principles of logic, that exist outside the human mind.

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Originally written by SkeleTony:

Neither is math and yet math is still a pretty solid method for determining that 2 + 2 does in fact = '4'.

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Everything which exists(outside of the imagination) IS natural/material/physical and must be so by definition.

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I do not grant your re-definition of "science" here. Science is basically empiricism + logic, from a materialist axiom, relying on several methodological principles to distinguish "belief" from actuality.

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Science is not some singular, sentient entity

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Originally written by The Ratt:

Remind me what the emerald chestguard does.

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Originally written by Fractal:

What is JWH?

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EIGHT ARTIFACT INGREDIENTS

Blood Poison
— Dumping Pits-N-room south from pathway, on table
— Western Morass-NW In Transport Room In Locked Canister

Purified Essence
— Circle Of The Drayk-C
— Sealed Catacombs-E

Essence-Infused Skin
— Turabi Gate-SW
— Khima-Uss-SW

Solidified Flame
— Warded Sea Caves-NW

Deep Focus Orb
— Eliza’s Bunker-E

Essence-Infused Iron
— Golem Fen-C-Spawner

Unmelting Ice
— Wrecked Labs-SW

Crystalline Fibers
— Matala's Workshop-S

Ur-Drakon Skin
— Quessa-Uss-Salassar’s Shrine

Pure Crystal Shard
— Breeding Pits-SW

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Originally written by Stillness:

People can deal with, "Well, we'll just have to think about that some more" much better than they can deal with, "That's just idiotic." When you say the latter you don't just limit the other person, but yourself from adjusting and growing. Pride comes before the crash.

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Originally written by Stillness:

Let's say we disagree on an issue and I hold myself out to be an agent of truth and knowledge. What is the best way for me to find out who, if either of us, is right?

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Should I call you stupid now or say, "let's agree to disagree and maybe we can think about this more if new information comes to light."

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I'd listen to your perspective. Even if you're wrong I might learn something of my faith from you.

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So I'd never be so bold and haughty as to belittle someone for disagreeing with me.

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Originally written by Stillness:

He can't tolerate the fact that some people have looked at the evidence logically and disagree so they are classified as stupid. He is not alone in that sentiment. That's a repulsive attitude for anybody to have. It's no wonder when people are repulsed.

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Originally written by Stillness:

I do agree that the illiterate should be lied to. They have a lot of nerve even breathing the same air as us, let alone expecting honesty as if they even know what truth is...

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Originally written by Synergy:

A world of scientists would be an Orwellian nightmare realized. We've simply swapped one dominant religion for another.

-S-

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Originally written by Stillness:

a lot of my friends and associates are from a major college town where I spend a lot of time

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Originally written by Stillness:

I don't need exaggerations to decide what to believe.

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Originally written by btmorex:

Can someone explain the difference between buying spells + improvements vs. finding spellbooks in dungeons? I notice that when I find a spell in a dungeon I still get the options to buy it and improve it. It seems kind of odd that I have to pay for it even though I already learned it to be able to improve it.

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On a similar note, I notice that the learning a spell message is something like "Your skill with <whatever> +1". Does that mean if I've already bought and improved the spell that it will get even more improved?

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Originally written by Stillness:

When they speak of knowledge they've uncovered through scientific method in absolute and non-negotiable terms it lets me know they have lost touch with reality and puts a large question mark over everything they say. Science simply does not work that way.

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