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Guardians need help in Geneforge Series
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Equipment

-Symbotic Cloak
-Quicksilver Bulwark
-Lightning Girdle
-Guardian Claymore
-Quicksilver Sandals
-Talisman of Might
-Emerald Chestguard
-Gloves of the Rock
-Avenger's Ring
-Gazerskin Vambraces
-Lucky Charm
-Skein of Wisdom
-Charm of Mental Focus(2)
-Blademaster's Charm
-Inflitraitor's Charm
-Cryoa Claw Charm
-Esscence Charm
-Puresteel Charm

98% Armor
Resistances

-77% Fire
-80% Cold
-77% Energy
-148% Stun (only the Shambling Rotbeasts could stun me)
-66% Mental
-105% Poison (effectively immune)
-60% Acid

Health 504
Essence 156
Spell Energy 106
Action Points 13 (19.5 when hasted)

Skills

Base Skills

-14 Strength
-7 Dexterity
-5 Intelligence
-16 Endurance

Combat Skills

-15 Melee
-7 Missile Weapons
-16 Quick Action
-13 Parry

Magic Skills

-0 Battle Magic
-0 Mental Magic
-3 Blessing Magic
-2 Spellcraft

Shaping Skills

-1 Fire Shaping
-1 Battle Shaping
-1 Magic Shaping
-6 Healing Craft

General Skills

-12 Leadership
-15 Mechanics
-8 Luck
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Guardians need help in Geneforge Series
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Yes, unless you count healing myself when I don't feel like going to town. It doesn't affect fighting or gameplay at all.
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Guardians need help in Geneforge Series
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Guardians can get melee skills higher cheaper. I completely ignore magic and the game is quite easy. Guardians aren't better at melee just because of QA and Melee. Having high Parry, Strength and Endurence help to. Also, it has a lot to do with how you play. Most people seem to have trouble playing the Guardian. I find it quite easy. The Guardians don't need a boost. People just need to figure out how to play them well.

I have read the other topic. In tougher battles the Guardian can use items to allow them to do more damage and have higher HP. This gives them most of power that BLM would give them. I'm not saying that the Guardian is better. I'm just saying that he doesn't need boosting.
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My Guardian roughly 30% of the time did 500+ damage.

Try playing the game to have your melee agent do 500+ damage 30% of the time.
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Then why don't you prove the numbers right? I don't think that the agent does that much damage 30% of the time.
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Guardians need help in Geneforge Series
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No, but but can the Agent do that much damage with melee?
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I dought it. I've done up 500 damage with two attacks and QA. I could beat a Rot by the beginning of Gull Island. With Melee. Nothing else. Could an Agent do that?
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Guardians need help in Geneforge Series
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Except melee.
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Not really.... They're perfectly fine if you're an experienced enough Gaurdian player.
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Melee Guardian - G2vsG3 in Geneforge Series
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What difficulty are you playing on? I play on torment.
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Melee Guardian - G2vsG3 in Geneforge Series
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quote:
And Akari is easy to defeat alone too.
I wouldn't know I haven't tried.

My Guardian was a powerhouse with no use of missile weapons. By the end of the game if you have these stats you should do fine.

Equipment

-Symbotic Cloak
-Quicksilver Bulwark
-Lightning Girdle
-Guardian Claymore
-Quicksilver Sandals
-Talisman of Might
-Emerald Chestguard
-Gloves of the Rock
-Avenger's Ring
-Gazerskin Vambraces
-Lucky Charm
-Skein of Wisdom
-Charm of Mental Focus(2)
-Blademaster's Charm
-Inflitraitor's Charm
-Cryoa Claw Charm
-Esscence Charm
-Puresteel Charm

98% Armor
Resistances

-77% Fire
-80% Cold
-77% Energy
-148% Stun (only the Shambling Rotbeasts could stun me)
-66% Mental (effectively immune)
-105% Poison (effectively immune)
-60% Acid (still got covered a lot, not damaged much though)

Health 504
Essence 156
Spell Energy 106
Action Points 13 (19.5 when hasted)

Skills

Base Skills

-14 Strength
-7 Dexterity
-5 Intelligence
-16 Endurance

Combat Skills

-15 Melee
-7 Missile Weapons
-16 Quick Action
-13 Parry

Magic Skills

-0 Battle Magic
-0 Mental Magic
-3 Blessing Magic
-2 Spellcraft

Shaping Skills

-1 Fire Shaping
-1 Battle Shaping
-1 Magic Shaping
-6 Healing Craft

General Skills

-12 Leadership
-15 Mechanics
-8 Luck
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Melee Guardian - G2vsG3 in Geneforge Series
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The Guardian may have lost power without parry and Melee damage but the forging has helped it alot. With a reviving crystal on your sword and high QA a properly built Guardian should do around 100 average and heal itself by about 50. If you have 500 health the you can kill anything in the game.

When I fought Akhari on torment I had Resnick, Swanick and the Agent. There was also me and Alwan. I walked in, blessed and hasted with 18 AP. Akhari Blaze was to easy to kill.
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Melee Guardian - G2vsG3 in Geneforge Series
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You can still own anything the game can throw at you. You just have to build you Guardian properly.
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Melee Guardian - G2vsG3 in Geneforge Series
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Why do people think that the G3 Guardian sucks? Sure its not as good as the G2 one but it can still wipe the floor against the toughest enenmies in the game.
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Sholai and Sucia Island in Geneforge Series
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I was talking about the empire of the early Shapers.
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Sholai and Sucia Island in Geneforge Series
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When Masha is teaching you the Sholai language it says your languages are quite simaler. It also says in the temple that the writing on the walls ar vaguely familiar. Both languages probably developed from that one language.
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Sholai and Sucia Island in Geneforge Series
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Could the Sholai have come of Sucia Island? Maybe they were the common soldiers of the Empire? Possibly the Empire forces split between the Shapers and the Sholai?

Shapers: War Mages, a few common soldiers, half the common people

Sholai: Most of common soldiers, half of common people

Perhaps half the population left the Shapers, blaiming them for the destruction of Sucia Island.
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Obeyer Ending in Geneforge Series
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Ok, thanks.
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Obeyer Ending in Geneforge Series
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Can anyone tell me the ending? I don't want to play through the game as one.
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Have I been playing too much Geneforge? in Geneforge Series
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12. You wish you could load a save file when you've done something you regret.
Heh. I do that sometimes.

[ Tuesday, May 09, 2006 15:54: Message edited by: I_am_a_Minotaur ]
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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
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Ok, ok. I get it. You don't want to make an Ur-Drakon. But What ending wll it follow? Will it take place right after, a while after, or at the same time as G3? Will there be rebellions within each faction? Wll there be high ranking traitor spies? And finally.... will the Geneforge be already made?
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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
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What ending of G3 will it follow? Will there be Ur-Drakons roaming the land? Maybe you start of by meeting one. Will they be the 5th tier creation? Or will it follow the shaper ending? Will making and destroying Geneforges be the priority? Will it take place in the same time but on the mainland?

I am undecided. What do YOU think?
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A Few More Advance Words On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
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I think that the Guardian should be like in G2 except with more mental resistance. The base damage of weapons needs to go up. The Puresteel Soulblade went from 15-120, +1 QA, +2 PA to 15-60, +1 QA, +2 PA. Thats a BIG drop and since the same happened to other weapons the Guardian was hit hard. This way with super parry, weapons with higher base damage and more mental resistance the Guardian will be as powerful as the Agent.

That being said I still think the Guardian is as powerful as the Agent it's just that you need a certain playing style. My Guardian on Gull Island could kill my Agent on Isle of Spears.

This is my Guardian

Dakro
Level: 33 Health 81 Essence 108 Spell Energy 74

Armor 110
Fire 70
Cold 70
Energy 70
Stun 103
Mental 40
Poison 82
Acid 32

Str 10
Dex 4
Int 4
End 14

MeW 10
MiW 7
QA 12
PA10

BM 0
MM 0
BlM3
SC 3

FS 1
BS 1
MS 1
HC 5

Lead. 11
Mech 14
Luck 9

With Stats approx. like this and the right tactics the Guardian can wipe the floor against EVERYTHING. Yes I do play Torment.

[ Thursday, May 04, 2006 05:17: Message edited by: I_am_a_Minotaur ]
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The Sequel in Geneforge Series
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The Awakened could be in. There's more than one way to win a war. They sit could on the sidelines keeping the war going whatever possible way and when both sides are weak come in and force peace.
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A Few Advance Notes On Geneforge 4 in Geneforge Series
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Being Awakened could be possible. Jeff said that he would have an elusive faction. The Awakened sit on the sidelines hiding but growing while watching the rebels and Shapers beat each other up with a well placed assanation or to to keep the fighting going. After both sides are really weak they step in and force peace onto the world.

They could be made up of Shapers like Khyrk and Sharon, Serviles like Pinner, Drakons like Orious Blaze & Sholai.

[ Wednesday, March 22, 2006 16:00: Message edited by: I_am_a_Minotaur ]
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