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Originally written by Arancaytar. You Owe it to the Door.:

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Originally written by Arancaytar. You Owe it to the Door.:

I am once again overwhelmed by waves of laughter. Please don't tell me you're serious. It's one thing to be in favor of fundamentalism, it's quite another to go on witchhunts in the twenty-first century and claim fantasy to be satanic in nature.
Your reaction is a typical one. Justify your opinion, instead of just calling others ridiculous.

By the way, where did I say fantasy is satanic in nature?

I will attempt to justify my opinion that the banning of literature can under no circumstances be of benefit to our society. It will take me a while to compile the arguments though.

Edit: Or what opinion did you actually mean? It is only this one that I was expressing when I responded, you know.

*sigh*
Let me quote myself:

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The point is: I don't hide other ideas. I'm not saying Harry Potter books should be banned or that there should be a law forbidding kids to read it. I just gave my personal opinion about HP and justified it. It's up to each one of you and parents to decide what is the best way to deal with it. Hey, as you said, I don't even censorship scenarios that are placed in the BoAC.



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Originally written by Arancaytar. You Owe it to the Door.:

I am once again overwhelmed by waves of laughter. Please don't tell me you're serious. It's one thing to be in favor of fundamentalism, it's quite another to go on witchhunts in the twenty-first century and claim fantasy to be satanic in nature.
Your reaction is a typical one. Justify your opinion, instead of just calling others ridiculous.

By the way, where did I say fantasy is satanic in nature?

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I think you're funny Ash.

Overwhelming:
I can't be bothered to argue with you at the moment, but I might just bring up a point: what would you say if Harry Potter doesn't have any hidden occult-teaching agenda, that HP was created just to make the author and publisher rich/famous?

I'm not even saying that there is an hidden occult-teaching agenda. The fact is that there is an hidden ouccult teaching and all the problems mentioned above. If it's intentional or not... Well, it's not up to me to judge.

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[FREAKING HUGE POST]

But this subject would take a whole new topic to be discussed, so let's not get started. ;)


That last part was only related to the moral relativism subject. :P

[ Tuesday, July 12, 2005 01:52: Message edited by: Overwhelming ]

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[QB]If you base beliefs on what people say, you're setting yourself up for a very confused and unhappy life. What "they" say need not keep company with reality.
No. I just think that backing up your opinions with other authors' opinions would contribute to a stronger argument. That basic academics.

Plus, being not a native english speaker, it makes it easier for me to express my opinion, using others' words with similar opinions.

EDIT: About the example you gave, at least it doesn't hide anything from the reader (specially children). It even warns about it. It doesn't disguise it and make it look like a "good thing"(tm).

[ Tuesday, July 12, 2005 01:48: Message edited by: Overwhelming ]

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[b]Although that article goes out of its way to describe characteristics of witchcraft (as well as fail to distinguish it from fantasy), it largely fails to do what it intends: explain why any of these things are negative influences on readers. The reference to four murders? Big deal - it's not as if murder is a topic absent from pretty much every other genre of literature ever, especially in the fantasy that you love.[/b]

I won't be too exaustive in my answer, but it might be a bit long.

""The ordinary person is typified as being bad because they have no (magic) powers, and heroes are the people who are using the occult. Good finds itself in the occult, which is an inversion of morality for many Christian people" Even many non-Christian parents have been concerned due to the greatly heightened fear that their younger children have after reading Potter's books."

Of course, I'm talking in a Christian moral point of view. An atheíst wouldn't think that above is wrong, for example. But then again, what moral does he have? Only his own moral. At least christian claim their moral is from God, a perfect and just being, that can be the standard for moral. An atheíst is only a falible human being.

Books, movies, games, and television all involve the imagination, and the specific fantasy directs the child's imagination. In other words, the imaginary scenes and images in books and movies are not neutral. As with guided imagery, the child's feelings and responses are manipulated by the author's view and values. For example, the stories and books children read in the classroom are usually selected or approved by each state because their message teaches the new global values, and because they provide useful discussion topics for the manipulative consensus process. Good stories capture the heart, mind, and imagination and are an important way to transmit values.

Books such as the Harry Potters series fit, because they reinforce the global and occult perspective. Page after exciting page brings the reader into the timeless battle between good and evil, then trains them to see the opposing forces from a pagan, not a Biblical perspective. In this mystical realm, "good" occult spirits are naturally pitted against bad occult spirits, just as in pagan cultures where frightened victims would offer sacrifices to "benevolent" spirits who could help ward off evil curses and other threats. Few readers realize that from the Biblical perspective, all occult forces are dangerous. But today, it seems more tolerant and exciting to believe this illusion than to oppose the lies. The words of Old Testament prophet Isaiah ring as true now as they did over 2000 years ago: "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil…." (Isaiah 5:20)

Children don’t read Harry Potter merely to reach the conclusion and resolve the suspense. Many read the books over and over because they delight in identifying with the "good" wizards in this newly discovered world -- and sometimes even with the obviously evil wizards. They build memories based on felt experiences in an occult virtual reality, and they are desensitized to the danger. The talent and knowledge of the author makes this seductive world all the more believable. Just ponder these diverse bits of wizard philosophy:

* Professor Snape who taught Potions: "I don’t expect you will really understand the beauty of the softly simmering cauldron with its shimmering fumes, the delicate power of liquids that creep through human veins, bewitching the mind, ensnaring the senses…." 1

* Two centaur’s views on astrology - "We have sworn not to set ourselves against the heaven. Have we not read what is to come in the movements of the planets?" …."Or have the planets not let you in on that secret?" 2

* "He is with me wherever I go," said Quirrell, referring to the murderous wizard Voldemort. "I met him when I traveled around the world. A foolish young man I was then, full of ridiculous ideas about good and evil. Lord Voldemort showed me how wrong I was. There is no good and evil , there is only power, and those too weak to seek it.... Since then, I have served him faithfully." 3

* Headmaster Dumbledore: "To the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure." 4

* Hagrid, the grounds-keeper at Hogwarts, telling Harry about the strange power that saved his life, "Happened when a powerful, evil curse touches you – didn’t work on you, and that’s why yer famous, Harry. No one ever lived after he [Voldemort] decided ter kill ‘em, no one except you…" 5 [Harry seems almost Christ-like, doesn't he, with his wound or mark, his psychic powers, and his victory over death and Voldemort?]

Once introduced to spiritism, astrology, palmistry, shape-shifting, time-travel (the third book) and the latest version of popular occultism, many crave more. They can easily find it. In their neighborhoods and schools, our children are surrounded by peers who are fascinated by occult empowerment and would love to share their fun discoveries. Few children have the Biblical knowledge or discernment needed to evaluate good and evil or to resist such threats to their faith.

It’s not surprising that Harry has suddenly soared to the peaks of popularity in schools across the country. His story fits right into the international program for multicultural education. The envisioned global community calls for a common set of values which excludes traditional beliefs as intolerant and narrow – just as the Harry Potter books show. The Biblical God simply doesn’t fit into his world of wizards, witches, and other gods.

Feminist writer Naomi Goldenberg knows that well. In her book, Changing of the Gods, she predicts that "God is going to change…. We, women are going to bring an end to God. We will change the world so much that He won’t fit in anymore." She and other radical feminists must appreciate Ms Rowling’s part in this process.

Of course, God will never change. But people, beliefs, and cultures do. And some changes, such as today’s cultural shift away from loving God to hating His truths, have occurred a multitude of times. The words Jesus spoke to His followers long ago now fit our times: "If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. . . . because they do not know Him who sent Me." (John 15:20-21)

[b]Note that your own website incorporates stylized images of skulls, and features content like information on Kel's Lord Putidus scenario, which is hardly Christian in nature. How do you reconcile that imagery and content with your beliefs?[/b]

One thing is to have images of pumpkins (not skulls, btw, but doesn't matter), another is to teach the occult. I don't pretend to hide the fact that the occult exists, the problem is teaching the occult disguised as a nice thing:

"(...) what makes this more dangerous is that it is couched in fantasy language, and children's literature, and made to be humorous, and beautifully written and extremely provocative reading. and it just opens up children to want to have the next one. This is what is so harmful."

You see, I can show a gun to a child, I won't deny its existence. But I wouldn't never do something like: «hey, it's a nice gun. It's fun! This is how you load it, and this is the trigger. Try it!». The least someone could do is to warn the child how harmful a gun can be. But you don't have that warning in Harry Potter, about witchcraft. Also, whichcraft, for those that believe in the Bible, is something evil in nature, there's no "good"/"white" witchcraft.
It's like poison. No one would give a pill saying: swallow this. Probably it would be disguized in a drink or nice looking meal. Just like wichcrafting in Harry Potter books.

[b]Harry Potter is no more malicious than any other children's literature - I refer you to the topic on fairy tales as a starting point. If you're going to try and protect people from any ideas other than wholesome Christian ones, I know of some good land in Montana where you can found your Bible madrassa.[/b]

The point is: I don't hide other ideas. I'm not saying Harry Potter books should be banned or that there should be a law forbidding kids to read it. I just gave my personal opinion about HP and justified it. It's up to each one of you and parents to decide what is the best way to deal with it. Hey, as you said, I don't even censorship scenarios that are placed in the BoAC.

[b]I love how "moral relativism" has become a dirty word, synonymous with "wishy-washy." Nothing could be further from the truth. Moral relativists merely recognize that there is no assertive superhuman source of authority in the world other than those which humans themselves construct. As such, morality is dependent on the social contract, an institution far older than human conception/perception of any god(s), and one composed of cummulative human experiences in what works as a society and what doesn't. Tradition and the law. Boil down all cultures, and there are some pretty universal tenets: an aversion to killing, stealing, cheating, etc. Nothing relative there.[/b]

Which would make everything aceptable, as no one has a "better" moral than other. Althought atheíst seems to have better moral than christians, when they accuse them of being narrow minded, etc.

But this subject would take a whole new topic to be discussed, so let's not get started. ;)

[ Tuesday, July 12, 2005 02:10: Message edited by: Overwhelming ]

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...it's morals and virtues are very twisted. But it's all disguized in a nice fairy tale.
I don't think they are. The books seem to foster the values of diversity, open-mindedness, loyalty, friendship, and the value of life. How can you object to those values?

Hum... Let me quote:

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The problem is, witchcraft is not fantasy; it is a sinful reality in our world.

"J.K. Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter series, has gone through an awful lot of research. She is very accurate (otherwise we would have witches all over the country and the world saying 'this is not a true representation of our religion'.) This is a true representation of witchcraft, and the black arts, and black magic. And yet we have people that say this is merely fantasy and harmless reading for our children. Actually, what makes this more dangerous is that it is couched in fantasy language, and children's literature, and made to be humorous, and beautifully written and extremely provocative reading. and it just opens up children to want to have the next one. This is what is so harmful."

Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged studies elements of Rowlings's imagery and writings, including the use of the "Potter" name in Pagan religion [13], shapechanging [14], meditation [15], human sacrifice [16], feminine power, Wicca (the religion of witchcraft) [17], the tools, spells and curses used in witchcraft [18], Christian youth and their involvement [19], communicating with the spirit world, reincarnation, situational ethics in witchcraft, the lightning bolt as a power symbol, broomsticks and witches' hats as phallic symbols, dabbling in divination and sorcery, recruitment, teaching children dark arts, Scholastic Inc.'s involvement, and more.

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"With the growing popularity of youth-oriented TV shows on witchcraft -- 'Sabrina, the Teenage Witch;' 'Charmed;' 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' -- a generation of children is becoming desensitized to the occult. But with Hollywood's help, Harry Potter will likely surpass all these influences, potentially reaping some grave spiritual consequences." [22]

Potter has caused quite a stir in many nations, with several Australian Christian schools supporting a banning of the books. "Dr. Chas. Gullo of the Christian Outreach College, a private school in Queensland state, said he read one chapter from Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and was exposed to four murders. 'It was pretty gory,' Gullo said in Brisbane's Courier-Mail newspaper." [23] Rev. Robert Frisken of Christian Community Schools Ltd in Australia says: "The ordinary person is typified as being bad because they have no (magic) powers, and heroes are the people who are using the occult. Good finds itself in the occult, which is an inversion of morality for many Christian people" [24] Even many non-Christian parents have been concerned due to the greatly heightened fear that their younger children have after reading Potter's books.

(...)

Author Richard Abanes has written a book called Harry Potter and the Bible. He says that the movie and books not only teach anti-Christian lessons on the occult, but also moral relativism, and desensitize children to profanity and off-color humor.
You said:

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Also, most science and mathematics text books are based on other text books; the authors aren't reinventing the wheel every time.
That's right. That's part of research. And it's great to have relevant information compiled from different authors. Instead of making you get 100 textbooks, you might just have to read one or two. If I find out that a textbook is from one author and that author doesn't mention any other bibliography, it would be suspect and not trustworthy.

Of course, no one has to buy the Harry Potter books, but surely most fans and collectors will pay that outreagous price for the book. Just like no one has to buy the textbooks, one can read them in the university's library. That's not the point. The point is if the money required to buy the books is fair for what it is.

BTW, I don't belong to any religious denomination. :)

[ Monday, July 11, 2005 10:05: Message edited by: Overwhelming ]

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"Shareware is a waste of my money, I'll download something, use it, and enjoy it, (...)"
-- Diarog Lethuta

If they "enjoy it" then why would it be a "waste of money"? Even if there were some crapy shareware games, you can try before paying for it. That's, in my opinion, one of the main advantages in sharewares: you can play them enough to know if it's worth to buy them or not.

The fact that Avernum has a retro look, it's not for everyone (old school RPG) and big part of it's community are underage (unable to use credit cards, parent-dependent, etc) are the main handicaps of this game, IMO.

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I'll host it for you too. :)

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I'll host it for you too. :)

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Insulting them? I'm not insulting anyone. I'm just saying that a textbook justifies its price for the reasons I mentioned. A fantasy fiction book doesn't. I love fantasy books, so I'm not bashing them.

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I don't apreciate Harry Potter. And I don't think it's suitable for children, as it's morals and virtues are very twisted. But it's all disguized in a nice fairy tale.

About its price... 30$?? That's exploitation. But people will pay for it anyway. I once paid 25? for an historical fiction book, but it was worth it. The quality and historical accuracy made it worth it. Now, a fantasy book...
I don't mind to pay well for a good book (someone was talking about textbooks... I've paid 150$ for my anatomy&physiology book, and 100-120$ for some others. But I understand the prices: you can't compare scientific books, which require research, accuracy, years to make, etc with fantasy books: a writer sits at his desk and uses his imagination to make a story. It's a lot more expensive to make a scientific textbook than a fantasy fiction book.)

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Spidweb is not the only place where people can download the demo, so it wouldn't be correct to make a download/registration ratio based only in Spidweb's numbers.

I would say one person register the game, per 1000 demo downloads.

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They fight like cowards, attacking and then fleeing back to their holes in the sand, not bothering to stand and fight like men.
They fight as they can. If you destroyed an ant hole and those ants attacked you, you wouldn't say they were cowards, because you're just one and they are millions attacking you. Well, terrorists are smarter than ants, and know they would be just stomped if they made a frontal attack to their opressors.

What the purpose of attacking innocent people? Terror. It's plain wrong and cruel. But they aren't the only ones killing innocent people too.

So this is a "war", where there isn't a "good" side vs a "bad" side. They're both "bad", although terrorists are a little bit "worse". It's hard to take a side, when both have "collateral damage".

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Will the people of England take Spain's example after the train bombing a year ago? Spain gave into the terrorist demands and curled into a fetal ball, praying that the boogeyman would go away.

Will they take the example of America after 9-11? We went out into the world looking for some asses to kick in retalliation.

Failling miserably to get Osama, going to Iraq following the petroil smell trail, killing many civilians on the way, causing the creation of terrorist groups.

Except England (wich kissed Bush's ass), all Europe wasn't agains't Iraq evasion. Did that stop Bush? No. He imposed his narrow view. At the end, he had the nerve to ask Europe's help to support the costs of mantaining order and reconstruction in Iraq.

And Bush was reelected (incredible, isn't it?).

I guess England suffered for being USA's ally.

Terorrist are wrong. USA and England were/are wrong. And who sufferes? Innocent civilians of both sides.

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Although I liked Exile I, the first Spidweb's game I've played years ago, only when the Avernums came out I've decided to register (the Avernum series and BoA).

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I've been trying for some time, but I can't download the scenario. Is there an alternative download location? I could host it in the BoAC too.

Anyone is having the same download difficulties?

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I have a question to the WASes here (Wizards of the AvernumScript). ;)

1 - Is it possible to "attach" a specific SDF to every NPC in all towns?

Let's say that if the PC kills a NPC, the NPC's SDF would be triggered. This would be useful because of clone towns (equal towns with the same NPCs, but where the actions in one of them are reflected in the other. Example: I kill John in town 1, he won't be in clone town 2).
I guess I could do a small script veryfing a chacklist of NPCs everytime the PC enters one of the towns... But I would prefer my initial choice, mainly due to undisclosed reasons. ;)

2 - I need some more information about getting the day/night cycle right.

For example, if the PC aproaches town 1 at day, he will be teleported to town 1. If he reaches it at night, he will be teleported to (clone) town 2. I know Erik Westra made something similar in his scenario (we could enter in a certain place only at night), but I would like to know extra commands and tricks related to the day/night cycle, if someone would be kind enough to enlighten me. I guess I could figure it out alone, but right now I'm a newbie in scripting and time is very short.

3 - Is there a way to change a town's script in-game?

I mean, is there a command or any scripting trick, to make town 1 use the t1B.txt script, instead of the default t1.txt?

Thanks for any help you can lend me. :)

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I have a question to the WASes here (Wizards of the AvernumScript). ;)

1 - Is it possible to "attach" a specific SDF to every NPC in all towns?

Let's say that if the PC kills a NPC, the NPC's SDF would be triggered. This would be useful because of clone towns (equal towns with the same NPCs, but where the actions in one of them are reflected in the other. Example: I kill John in town 1, he won't be in clone town 2).
I guess I could do a small script veryfing a chacklist of NPCs everytime the PC enters one of the towns... But I would prefer my initial choice, mainly due to undisclosed reasons. ;)

2 - I need some more information about getting the day/night cycle right.

For example, if the PC aproaches town 1 at day, he will be teleported to town 1. If he reaches it at night, he will be teleported to (clone) town 2. I know Erik Westra made something similar in his scenario (we could enter in a certain place only at night), but I would like to know extra commands and tricks related to the day/night cycle, if someone would be kind enough to enlighten me. I guess I could figure it out alone, but right now I'm a newbie in scripting and time is very short.

3 - Is there a way to change a town's script in-game?

I mean, is there a command or any scripting trick, to make town 1 use the t1B.txt script, instead of the default t1.txt?

Thanks for any help you can lend me. :)

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Yep. It could use some beta testing. :

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Beta Call for Mad Ambition in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

Okay, good luck to you in the contest. (You'll be competing with my scenario, which was finished & sent in with 5 hours to go)

Let me know if you need testing done in the future.

You may submit it to the BoAC as well. ;)

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Undead Valley RELEASED in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by LlamaGod:

What is the level range for this?
The author, when submitted it, told:

"It's for levels 35-75".

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Undead Valley RELEASED in Blades of Avernum
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It's announced and hosted in BoAC. If a new version comes out, just let me know.

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Beta Call for Mad Ambition in Blades of Avernum
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Ah. Finally a good oportunity to inaugurate the Beta Testing Center. ;)

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So, will gay people fight for their sperm-donating rights? That's a very important issue! (sarcasm)

Or is it for the simple fact that gay people are being discriminated?

Many homosexuals claim that it's a genetic thing. I don't think that's proven, but if it were right then I can see a good reason to reject gay sperm. Just as you would understand why someone with Down SYndrome would be refused.

You could say that homosexuality is not a desease or a behaviour deviation, but that's a controversial issue, not to be discussed here.

Anyway, the donator's profile should register the fact that the donator is gay. Those who will get the sperm will choose. Or do you think that gay people has the right to impose their sperm without the "host"'s knowledge and consent?

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