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Nevermind ;)

I'll put this on hold a little longer. I'll reedit it later.

[ Friday, March 25, 2005 02:30: Message edited by: Overwhelming ]

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Before an official announcement, I would like to know your opinion about the Beta Testing Center forum:

BTC

Any suggestions are welcome (including the chosen skin). :)

[ Thursday, March 24, 2005 14:43: Message edited by: Overwhelming ]

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I'm already preparing it, and here's how it will work. Let's say you're a designer and want to beta test your scenario:

- Register in Beta Testing Center forum (BTC)
- Apply for a beta testing board: give your nick and scenario name. Say if you want a private or invisible board (if private, the board will be listed, but only you and your beta testers can view and access it; if invisible, the board won't even be listed in the forum)
- A board and a usergroup will be created for you.

From here, it's all in your hands. The board is private (or invisible) and you're the moderator. Only members of your usergroup are allowed access to your board. It's up to you to Add/Remove members to/from your usergroup, moderate the board and whatever.

It's even simpler and easier done than said. :)

[ Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:14: Message edited by: Overwhelming ]

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The IM (MSN, AOL, ICQ, etc) incovenience is that people must be online at the same time to chat. I know that most people here probably live in the USA, but there are many people from Europe and other american countries (and even some from Asia!), so arranging a time to be online together can be a pain.

On the other side, in a private forum the message remains there and other get to it when they get online. Just like we do here.

This would allow to beta test the scenario as a group too, instead of only individual reports. I think interactivity and dynamics would really enhance and accelerate beta testing.

How would we do it? I'm preparing a (free) forum (with some adds, unfortunately, that's why it's free) that'll be perfect for what we need.

Of course, no personal information (like address or phone numbers) are required to register!

About file hosting, that will remain the same: you can use any free webhosting (just google for it) or email it. Since some people have small mailboxes, the free webhosting would be the best solution (no undelivered emails, etc).

(In last case, I can host files too, but that would mean that you would have to send it to me and wait until I put it online.)

I'll be using this system when my scenario is ready for beta testing (that's why I had this idea).

Main reasons: interactivity, dynamics, beta test as a group and fastness. :)

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I think a scenario's beta testing is highly important. A good scenario can be reduced to a so-so or bad scenario due to bugs, errors, etc. So every scenario designer should beta test his scenario.

Usually they adopt the email solution: beta testers receive scenario, play it and send an email with a report. Corrections are made, new versions are made and new email reports are sent. Multiply this by the number of beta testers, and you'll understand it's a complicated and unefficient process.

What I'm about to propose, and I'm working on it, is a Beta Testing Center forum (yes, I know, I like the "center" word ;) ). For each scenario to be beta tested will be created a new board (password protected or invisible). The designer will be his board admin and only the beta testers he choses will have access to his board.

This allows:

- A more interactive and dynamic beta testing

- Beta testers can post bugs, questions, etc on the fly. Other beta testers can read them and confirm/help/etc.

- Makes beta testing quicker.

- You name it! :)

So, tell me what you think. :)

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Hintbook: how is it? in The Avernum Trilogy
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Thank you for the information, but I would like to know a couple more things: Does the hintbook includes any extra information besides the walktrough? Is it like the VotD's solution, included in BoA as a pdf document?

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New Abortion Laws in General
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wz.arsenic:

"I don't believe a fetus in the first trimester can be considered a human being with the same right to well-being as, say, a 17-year old girl."

Fortunately, justice isn't based in just opinion. Why do you say a three month fetus doesn't have the same right to well-being as a 17-year old girl? So, the older, the more right to well-being?

Although there's some debate on this issue, medicine and bioethics agree that life begins when the sperm enters the egg (the proper terms don't come to my mind in english). The debate is about the totipotency: in the first eight days, there's a great chance the egg will divide itself in two. And from there it can unite again or continue its evolution separately (twins). So, until then, the individual is not defined: there can be a person or two. But life begins at the moment the egg is fertilized, so there shouldn't be a big debate here.

Anyway, what do you think gives you the right to choose the fetus' death? Use your answer to also justify why shouldn't a mother kill her two years old boy, for example.

Kelandon: Sure. As I said, there are situations where abortion is ethical. I was talking about the abortion in general.

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Terri Schiavo in General
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If it's true she's braindead, then, technically speaking, it wouldn't be called "euthanasia" stoping the machinery that supports her life. She's dead. Artificialy alive, but dead. It's different from a coma.

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New Abortion Laws in General
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Originally written by Thuryl:

To be perfectly honest, I don't see a huge difference between having a child and then killing it compared to never conceiving it at all. In both cases, the result is the same: no baby. I'm not sure how it's possible to argue that the former is wrong without arguing that the latter is wrong too.
I see a huge diference. The former example, there's an existence that is murdered, in the later one, there's nothing, so there's no wrong/evil you can do to... nothing.

wz.arsenic:

If you see the bioethics principles, you'll see that there are ethical abortions, example: when only one can survive, the baby or mother, the mother can choose. (And generally they choose to sapre their babies' life... Hard choices...).

And please, don't come with the argument that "if abortions are illegal, women will be getting unsafe non-professional abortions that put their lives at risk".

Risk? The baby, in that case, would have no risk: he would be killed. And he can't defend himself!

That's like saying: hey, thieves will always exist, let's legalize thievery, so that they don't have to put their lives at risk.

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New Abortion Laws in General
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It's bioethically wrong. In my country, it would go agains't its Constitution!

The last someone tried to legalize the abortion, there was a national referendum. No abortion (fortunately). But it seems there are some pressures for a new pro-abortion law...

What's happening to this world?

4 fundamental principles of bioethics:

Autonomy
Justice
Beneficence
Non-Maleficence

I think that it's clear the abortion goes agains't these principles.

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It's called partial birth abortion. Basically, you induce labor and then kill the child as it is coming out. you would just have to be carful to kill it before it came all the way out, otherwise it's murder.
Gee... That would make it legal to cut the baby's head when he's coming out... :eek:

[ Monday, March 21, 2005 14:16: Message edited by: Overwhelming ]

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Are they in electronic format or on paper?

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Hintbook: how is it? in The Avernum Trilogy
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Being a BoA user, I decided to buy the Avernum triology. I would like to know how are the hintbooks, to decide if I should buy them together too.

Thanks

[ Monday, March 21, 2005 13:36: Message edited by: Overwhelming ]

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Space theories are very falible, as they are mainly pure speculation over little real knowledge.

Science, to be science, requires experimentation. But we do not have the means to do so, except through long distance observation, some sampling from near planets (Venus and Mars) and much speculation.

If the famous "What is true today might be false tomorrow" is right, this science branch fits completely this sentence. :)

Just out of curiosity, check out 13 things that don't make sense, most of them, you'll see, are Space problems. new scientist web page

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Are all players using the same BoA version? You should use the most up-to-date version. Maybe that's why some get the error and others not. Probably there was a bug in the earlier versions.

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Are all players using the same BoA version? You should use the most up-to-date version. Maybe that's why some get the error and others not. Probably there was a bug in the earlier versions.

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Jaaari's Creature and Item Editor Tools might be useful too. You can get them here .

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Jaaari's Creature and Item Editor Tools might be useful too. You can get them here .

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Overwhelming - I'm sorry, but I'm unconvinced that your site serves any practical purpose that isn't served better by some other site. Plus, the link in your sig doesn't work.

That's strange. Maybe it's the redirecting service that is down for the moment. I've updated my sig with the direct link.

About the pratical purpose of my site, it's a site that, as the name describes, centralizes everything (except graphics). Plus it has a links sections that forwards newbies to many other BoA related sites. A good starting pont, in my opinion. But I'll leave that at your consideration. :)

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quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:


Overwhelming - I'm sorry, but I'm unconvinced that your site serves any practical purpose that isn't served better by some other site. Plus, the link in your sig doesn't work.

That's strange. Maybe it's the redirecting service that is down for the moment. I've updated my sig with the direct link.

About the pratical purpose of my site, it's a site that, as the name describes, centralizes everything (except graphics). Plus it has a links sections that forwards newbies to many other BoA related sites. A good starting pont, in my opinion. But I'll leave that at your consideration. :)

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quote:
Originally written by Dahak:

Try opening a door and then while standing one space away from an adjacent space, search the door to close it. The door closes even though you are not nearby.
Is anyone of your party near the door? It doesn't have to be the lead PC.

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BUGS! in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by Dahak:

Try opening a door and then while standing one space away from an adjacent space, search the door to close it. The door closes even though you are not nearby.
Is anyone of your party near the door? It doesn't have to be the lead PC.

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Anything that SHOULD be put in the header?
How about a link to BoAC? :D

It's a good place to get started and "equiped" (scripts, articles, scenarios,...). ;)

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quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

Anything that SHOULD be put in the header?
How about a link to BoAC? :D

It's a good place to get started and "equiped" (scripts, articles, scenarios,...). ;)

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If I understand, you're talking about a place that negates or makes magic difficult to be produced/cast.

I think it's possible to script for each cast, to deduct x SP. (If you cast a fireball, the script finds who cast the spell and takes the extra SPs, so it will spend the standard SP plus the x SP).

However, never tried it, don't know if it's possible.

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If I understand, you're talking about a place that negates or makes magic difficult to be produced/cast.

I think it's possible to script for each cast, to deduct x SP. (If you cast a fireball, the script finds who cast the spell and takes the extra SPs, so it will spend the standard SP plus the x SP).

However, never tried it, don't know if it's possible.

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