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Title	Off With Their Heads
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Seeking beta-testers. in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Tuesday, May 25 2004 12:56 Profile Homepage #14 Eldiran, where have you and your scenario gone? I can't imagine that the changes you envisioned in your scenario were so extensive that they'd take two weeks... Submit it! Even the beta that I tested was better than RoR and BS! -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Time now for a website in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Tuesday, May 25 2004 12:35 Profile Homepage #5 Um, apologies, but what/where is the main site? I can't seem to find it... -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Time now for a website in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Tuesday, May 25 2004 12:09 Profile Homepage #3 What is the purpose of these boards? Why should I go to them rather than Spiderweb, the Lyceum, Desperance, Polaris, etc etc etc? EDIT: Referring, obviously, to Dolney's boards. [ Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:13: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The HLPM is finished! in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Tuesday, May 25 2004 11:21 Profile Homepage #0 Have you ever wanted to play Diplomacy With the Dead with a singleton, but didn't want to beat the three preceding scenarios with that same singleton in order to get up to the right level? Do you find some scenarios (The Za-Khazi Run) too hard, and want to enter with a party that is slightly stronger than the one that you had coming out of the previous scenario (A Small Rebellion)? Or are you a designer making a scenario for a level 40 party, but are not sure that people have level 40 parties lying around? WORRY NO MORE! I have written a High Level Party Maker for BoA! For BoE-ers, it is similar to Tarl Kudrick's HLPM, except it uses the greater power of BoA to customize the level to which the party will rise. Thus, the player who enters it can CHOOSE whether s/he wants the party to rise to level 20, 25, 40, or even 75! With the HLPM, you can make a god party that will slay dragons with a single blow, or you can enter the Za-Khazi Run with a carefully crafted level 15 party. It's up to you! Designers, you need only explain in your readme that players should download this scenario and select a particular level (say, 40) before entering your scenario. It's that easy! Or, if you really want to have control, you can customize the HLPM to suit your scenario! Download the High Level Party Maker today! -------------------- So, um, seriously, I just finished it and sent it off to Spiderweb. It should be on the tables within a few days. I'm assuming that despite my best efforts, there will be balance issues with the items, so if you feel that certain items should be available at higher/lower levels than they are, discuss that here. I'm planning to do an update to v1.0.1 that will change some of the item balancing after I play through a few of Jeff's scenarios with parties developed using the HLPM. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Hi, nice to meet you in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Tuesday, May 25 2004 10:33 Profile Homepage #86 Uh, TM, I'm not sure that Djur actually said anything critical about postmodernism. He just sort of blurted out his confession. I guess on SW that is enough, though. I don't like Tim O'Brien in general, and I found most of Things They Carried stylistically annoying. It had a few decent parts, but I can think of many authors that I prefer. I also don't like postmodernist thought in general. It had a few very legitimate criticisms of modernism, but I find it overall rather annoying. But I am out of my depth here: most of my experience with modern philosophy comes from chatting (regularly) with a friend of mine who was in an upper-division modern European intellectual history course. Alas for Cav's poor topic! It has been assaulted by postmodernism. Oh well, it's a good introduction to Spiderweb, anyway. As someone else (I forget who) said, on Spiderweb everything is political. And religious. And sometimes homosexual. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Hi, nice to meet you in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, May 24 2004 20:52 Profile Homepage #75 Stage 3.5 also tends to include flaming and rioting and homocide. Djur, I will never look at you the same way again. Well, seeing as how I probably will never look at you, I will never read your posts the same way again. Or something like that. Cav, you must be the least n00b-ish newbie since... since... since before I got here (which was three months ago ). I suppose I should've asked how many of the games you've finished. -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
It's that time again in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, May 24 2004 11:52 Profile Homepage #5 In that case, I stick by my July prediction :P -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Hi, nice to meet you in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, May 24 2004 08:23 Profile Homepage #63 Uh, TM, males have an X and a Y. Females have two X's. I guess you could say that the chromosomes are exactly balanced here, but that doesn't have the same dramatic effect. EDIT: And why the heck is everything modern vs. post-modern with you? So weird. [ Monday, May 24, 2004 08:23: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Article - The Moral of the Story in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, May 24 2004 08:17 Profile Homepage #60 quote: So my point is completely valid thanks to agree with that. If you weren't such a jerk about it, then it might be easier for people to discuss with you. EDIT: And while I'm at it, having thought about it a bit more, I retract that statement. I was wrong, because of something that Thuryl pointed out: the waste disposal took very little time (quickfire spreads pretty darn fast) when the party did it, so time being the primary issue still doesn't make sense. [ Monday, May 24, 2004 08:21: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Article - The Moral of the Story in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, May 24 2004 08:17 Profile Homepage #60 quote: So my point is completely valid thanks to agree with that. If you weren't such a jerk about it, then it might be easier for people to discuss with you. EDIT: And while I'm at it, having thought about it a bit more, I retract that statement. I was wrong, because of something that Thuryl pointed out: the waste disposal took very little time (quickfire spreads pretty darn fast) when the party did it, so time being the primary issue still doesn't make sense. [ Monday, May 24, 2004 08:21: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Hi, nice to meet you in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, May 24 2004 07:14 Profile Homepage #61 I think nephils are cute and furry. Prrr. Prrrrrrrrrr. RAAAAAWR! Uh, this post was spam. To make it less so: Cav, which Spiderweb games have you played? From your profile I'm guessing you've played the Exile Trilogy and some of the Avernums... is that correct? Have you played any BoE or BoA or GF or Nethergate? -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Article - The Moral of the Story in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 22:36 Profile Homepage #56 I was going to say something, but Thuryl is a far better human being than I am, and he said it better than I possibly could. To tack on my own point: So basically, Vent, you're saying that Vinnia didn't want to clean up the pollution because it would take more time and delay the closing of the school, which might displease the Emperor. I can say to this only what I said to TiaraLi: this kind of makes sense, but it is the story that you have thrust upon VoDT, rather than the story that VoDT has given you. If one of the notes from Vinnia said something like, "We must hurry. The school's closing must not be delayed" or something like that, then I'd say that your point is completely valid. As it is, it is only your explanation and not VoDT's. So basically, what Thuryl said. EDIT: And what he said right below me, too. [ Sunday, May 23, 2004 22:38: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Article - The Moral of the Story in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 22:36 Profile Homepage #56 I was going to say something, but Thuryl is a far better human being than I am, and he said it better than I possibly could. To tack on my own point: So basically, Vent, you're saying that Vinnia didn't want to clean up the pollution because it would take more time and delay the closing of the school, which might displease the Emperor. I can say to this only what I said to TiaraLi: this kind of makes sense, but it is the story that you have thrust upon VoDT, rather than the story that VoDT has given you. If one of the notes from Vinnia said something like, "We must hurry. The school's closing must not be delayed" or something like that, then I'd say that your point is completely valid. As it is, it is only your explanation and not VoDT's. So basically, what Thuryl said. EDIT: And what he said right below me, too. [ Sunday, May 23, 2004 22:38: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A game programmer's point of view in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 22:28 Profile Homepage #39 sigh Well, I know for a fact that the Avernum Trilogy didn't have subroutines that you described, so it is rather hard to think of them as anything but scripts... this may account for the slight verbal slip-up. But this isn't at all what we are talking about. Okay, I'm done. Really I am. I will not post in this topic any more. promises EDIT: I'm still RIGHT, though. >_< [ Sunday, May 23, 2004 22:43: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A game programmer's point of view in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 22:28 Profile Homepage #39 sigh Well, I know for a fact that the Avernum Trilogy didn't have subroutines that you described, so it is rather hard to think of them as anything but scripts... this may account for the slight verbal slip-up. But this isn't at all what we are talking about. Okay, I'm done. Really I am. I will not post in this topic any more. promises EDIT: I'm still RIGHT, though. >_< [ Sunday, May 23, 2004 22:43: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Article - The Moral of the Story in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 22:16 Profile Homepage #52 Okay, at your request, I'll try once more. About 2: they clearly had mastered teleportation and did have time to set up the portal. Who else do you think made the machinery that you activate to clear out the waste, if not the mages? No one has been there since them. Nothing had changed since they left. All you do is turn on the waste disposal system. They could've done this just as easily. 3: Yes, you're right. I found the quote: "For over a hundred years, I have stared at these miserable walls, eating worthless food and going out of my mind with boredom" (t8Storage Levdlg.txt, node 8, text2). So we have two conflicting dates, the one I cited above, and the one that the dragon gives here. I am inclined to believe the one above, because the dragon doesn't really have a reliable way of telling time, but it doesn't really matter. 4: The post you mention, by coreyh, only says that he likes the fact that the place was already abandoned. He doesn't say that the setting is important to the morality of the scen, which is what we're talking about. You're reaching, here. 5: I know that Vinnia was seeking power for herself. It was abundantly clear in the scenario. But how does leaving pollution behind in the school give her power? That's what I was saying. I was arguing that the scenario does not give motivations for her actions with regard to the pollution. Point 5 is really the only important thing here, but I just answered the rest of them for completeness. EDIT: Hmm, you're very quick to say I'm wrong about things. Careful with that word. And it WAS the dragon who gave the figure of eighty years, NOT the narrator. Go to the node in the script that I mentioned and check if you don't believe me. But again, it doesn't really matter. [ Sunday, May 23, 2004 22:25: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Article - The Moral of the Story in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 22:16 Profile Homepage #52 Okay, at your request, I'll try once more. About 2: they clearly had mastered teleportation and did have time to set up the portal. Who else do you think made the machinery that you activate to clear out the waste, if not the mages? No one has been there since them. Nothing had changed since they left. All you do is turn on the waste disposal system. They could've done this just as easily. 3: Yes, you're right. I found the quote: "For over a hundred years, I have stared at these miserable walls, eating worthless food and going out of my mind with boredom" (t8Storage Levdlg.txt, node 8, text2). So we have two conflicting dates, the one I cited above, and the one that the dragon gives here. I am inclined to believe the one above, because the dragon doesn't really have a reliable way of telling time, but it doesn't really matter. 4: The post you mention, by coreyh, only says that he likes the fact that the place was already abandoned. He doesn't say that the setting is important to the morality of the scen, which is what we're talking about. You're reaching, here. 5: I know that Vinnia was seeking power for herself. It was abundantly clear in the scenario. But how does leaving pollution behind in the school give her power? That's what I was saying. I was arguing that the scenario does not give motivations for her actions with regard to the pollution. Point 5 is really the only important thing here, but I just answered the rest of them for completeness. EDIT: Hmm, you're very quick to say I'm wrong about things. Careful with that word. And it WAS the dragon who gave the figure of eighty years, NOT the narrator. Go to the node in the script that I mentioned and check if you don't believe me. But again, it doesn't really matter. [ Sunday, May 23, 2004 22:25: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A game programmer's point of view in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 22:01 Profile Homepage #37 Vent, I am going to try one more time in this topic and that is it. quote: Ok so you don't need to define a script language to have different set of procedure for different NPC behavior. You don't need to define a script language to have a different set of procedures for different NPC behavior, no. I didn't say that you did. What I've been saying all along is that there is no evidence in the Avernum games that I can remember that any different procedures existed whatsoever. I provided examples of things that might've been evidence. I didn't ever say you needed a scripting language for this. quote: So when you wrote: The difference between that and scripting is that scripting would allow a different set of protocols. That's not true, Jeff and Avernum don't need script to do that, it's not linked at all to the use of scripts. If you take "protocols" to mean "procedures" -- thus indicating that scripts allow creatures to behave differently from each other -- then the statement is true as is. You don't need scripts to do this. I never said that you did. That is not, and has never been, my point. My point is that the creatures in the Avernum Trilogy all behave the same way, except in the differences that come from their different abilities, such as you would see with a single script in BoA. Thus, the Avernum Trilogy had nothing resembling the creature scripts that you find in BoA. They come from Geneforge, not the Avernum Trilogy. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A game programmer's point of view in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 22:01 Profile Homepage #37 Vent, I am going to try one more time in this topic and that is it. quote: Ok so you don't need to define a script language to have different set of procedure for different NPC behavior. You don't need to define a script language to have a different set of procedures for different NPC behavior, no. I didn't say that you did. What I've been saying all along is that there is no evidence in the Avernum games that I can remember that any different procedures existed whatsoever. I provided examples of things that might've been evidence. I didn't ever say you needed a scripting language for this. quote: So when you wrote: The difference between that and scripting is that scripting would allow a different set of protocols. That's not true, Jeff and Avernum don't need script to do that, it's not linked at all to the use of scripts. If you take "protocols" to mean "procedures" -- thus indicating that scripts allow creatures to behave differently from each other -- then the statement is true as is. You don't need scripts to do this. I never said that you did. That is not, and has never been, my point. My point is that the creatures in the Avernum Trilogy all behave the same way, except in the differences that come from their different abilities, such as you would see with a single script in BoA. Thus, the Avernum Trilogy had nothing resembling the creature scripts that you find in BoA. They come from Geneforge, not the Avernum Trilogy. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Article - The Moral of the Story in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 21:40 Profile Homepage #49 Vent, you're not going to understand me regardless of what I say, so I'm not going to try anymore. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Article - The Moral of the Story in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 21:40 Profile Homepage #49 Vent, you're not going to understand me regardless of what I say, so I'm not going to try anymore. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A game programmer's point of view in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 21:19 Profile Homepage #35 I have no idea what that post just said. I meant "protocol" in the non-programming sense of the term. A better word probably would have been "procedure." -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A game programmer's point of view in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 21:19 Profile Homepage #35 I have no idea what that post just said. I meant "protocol" in the non-programming sense of the term. A better word probably would have been "procedure." -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
RP in the planning. in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 21:02 Profile Homepage #5 Sounds fun. I don't really RP, but it sounds fun. EDIT: NM about the second half of this post. I figured it out. But MSW, the Avernums are the same as the Exiles in terms of plot. [ Sunday, May 23, 2004 21:03: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!! (The home of BoA's HLPM v1.1!) Rate my scenarios! Northern Kingdom 0: Prologue High Level Party Maker Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A game programmer's point of view in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, May 23 2004 20:59 Profile Homepage #33 I count four features that I mentioned (special movement, messaging, string printing, and special targeting), not two, but whatever. quote: But are you sure that all NPC behave the same? Pretty sure. I played each of the games a couple of times, and I was pretty shocked when I saw Geneforge (which DOES have creature scripts) and the complex behaviors I saw there. Again, if someone knows anything to the contrary, point it out. quote: In fact in theory it's even possible to do just a subroutine that get in input complicate set of data in order to manage different NPC behavior. If I understand this sentence correctly, I think that it is vaguely kind of similar to what Jeff actually did. In the creature scripts in BoA, there is a command called do_attack. It behaves extremely differently for different creatures with different abilities. It is a single command. It takes into account many variables, such as distance to an enemy. It is still a single command. I think that the behavior of monsters in the Avernum Trilogy was kind of like that: they would follow one uniform set of protocols between them, but those protocols would take into account what the monster was capable of doing. The difference between that and scripting is that scripting would allow a different set of protocols. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00

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