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# of games bought from jeff in General
Nuke and Pave
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A2, Nethergate, SubTerra, BoE (contest prize), G1 (beta tester), G2, and G3

I am guessing people are just listing their platforms for curiosity. In which case, I use PC.

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Educational Segregation in General
Nuke and Pave
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The problems with American school system are due to fundamental flaws in the system's structure, and can't be solved by just throwing more money at schools, even if in some cases more money is needed.

One of the biggest problems is that American schools are run the same way as medieval universities, with each teacher the complete master of their classroom, protected by a tenure and only loosely guided by state education requirements. A system like that relies on each teacher being a brilliant educator, capable of developing a corriculum, making up good tests (a skill that takes years to master), keeping the students' attention, oh, and perhaps even teaching the material. Teachers like this do exist, but there will never be enough of them to fill every class in every school, no matter how much you pay.

The solution that top education systems in the world have come up with is to have curriculum designed by professionals. You can't staff each classroom with a brillian educator capable of making good lesson plans and fair tests that don't have to be graded on a curve, but you can find enough of them for a curriculum development commission. This is the approach taken by Russia and, I think, other countries with top school systems.

As for the results of the two approaches: coming from an 8th grade in a good Russian school, my math level had matched at least 11th grade in a very good American school, and science level was also a couple grades ahead of my counterparts in an equally good American school. (It's harder to compare science level directly, because in Russia Chemistry, Physics, etc. are taught simultaneously, instead of teaching Physics in 9th grade, chemistry in 10th, etc.)

PS As for original question of separating students by ability, it's hard to strike the right balance between every single student being forced to adhere to the same curriculum (Russian approach) and nobody being challenged to show any effort (American approach). The right answer is somewhere in between, but I don't know where.

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Me Too!!! in General
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Thanks for the congratulations, but the point of this thread was that half a dozen postcount celebration threads at the same time is pretty ridiculous. Marlenny and Andra did an amusing coordination stunt, but the ones that followed were no better than this esteemed thread.

PS I think Nalyd illustrated this point even better than I did, so it feels unfair that his thread is the only one that got locked.

[ Wednesday, August 22, 2007 16:59: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Me Too!!! in General
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The REAL list in General
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Thanks for compiling that list.

If I ever make a BoE page, I'll make sure to call it 19th BoE site, to guarantee top position on the list. :P

quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

If your goal is to include everything (or at least the important everythings) then you need to include, well, everything.
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I don't see Sarasaphilia's board on that list. Or Iffy's. Or, if you want to go with historic satellites, Arctic's, Frahhamn's, Bobsushi's, etc.

[ Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:01: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Ahht in General
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This talk about frames and comparative worth reminds me of an amusing story:

My parents needed frames for a couple pictures, so they bought a framed print at a garage sale for a couple dollars, because that was cheaper than buying a new frame at a store. When they took out the print they saw that the cardboard behind it had a drawing of a woman with a flower, which they liked so much that they decided to hang it next to the other pictures on a wall.

So a drawing that to some people was worth only to serve as a backboard for a framed poster my parents considered good enough to hang on the wall, while the print that those people were selling was worth less to my parents than the frame it was in.

Which I guess means that artistic (and by extension financial) value is in the eye of the beholder.

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I Seek to Obtain the Meaningless Approbation of my Fellows in General
Nuke and Pave
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Congratulations with your timing. I thought I was seeing double.

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I Seek to Obtain the Meaningless Approbation of my Fellows in General
Nuke and Pave
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Congratulations with your timing. I thought I was seeing double.

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The Sky Is Falling...? in General
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quote:
Originally written by Stillness:

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What I'm saying is that the way you go about presenting it can be productive or counterproductive. If a scientist says. "Humans pump X amount of CO2 into the atmosphere causing Y amount of temperature increase annually. We know this is the cause because we've isolated A, B, and C and have found them to be inconsequential for these reasons" he's got my attention. If he says, "We're causing the world to heat and anyone that disagrees is stupid" I'm less prone to listen.
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There is a difference between pop culture, popular science, and real science.

The only place where a scientist will say "We're causing the world to heat and anyone that disagrees is stupid" is a talk show where everybody speaks in 10-second sound bytes. That is not science. That is pop culture.

You might also have seen some "popular science", which is the wartered-down version of scientific arguments, presented in a way that would be accessable and fun for the general public.

However, if you really whant to know the scientific opinion, you have to read real scientific papers, which are written in the style of "Humans pump X amount of CO2 into the atmosphere causing Y amount of temperature increase annually. We know this is the cause because we've isolated A, B, and C and have found them to be inconsequential for these reasons". The summary report Kel had linked to earlier is probably a good place to start. From there you can follow citations to actual studies. It's a lot of work to struggle through the dry language of technical papers, but if you want to evaluate the truth behind the soundbytes yourself, you'll have to do this.

One sentence summary: real scientific arguments are as rigorous as you'd expect, but you will not find real science in popular bestsellers; instead, you have to read dry government reports and even more dry scientific studies they cite.

[ Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:10: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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The Sky Is Falling...? in General
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Even if you are still skeptical, let's consider the action/outcome matrix:

Option A: CO2 emissions aren't causing or exaserbating global warming.
Option B: CO2 emissions are causing or at least exaserbating global warming.

Action 1: Keep going as before.
Action 2: Decrease energy consumption, invest into alternative energy, etc.

The outcomes:

1A: Nothing special.

1B: Our inaction causes huge economic dagame, anywhere from mass starvation in 3rd world countries, to complete economic collapse.

2A: We waste lots of money, but end up with more energy-efficient homes and busnesses, and a large investment into applied science.

2B: We save our society from the scenario described in 1B.

So it's pretty obvious that, considering the potential outcomes, it's far better to try to decrease CO2 emissions as long as there is a reasonable doubt about whether they have no effect on global warming.

As for whether there is a reasonable doubt about the effect of CO2 on global warming...
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Originally written by Synergy:

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It has become a political issue, and it is mostly the politically-motivated and politically-funded scientists who are making the noise at this point, not the hard scientists in the field. The startling reality is the majority of credible scientists studying the field have already realized there is a dearth of evidence linking CO2 to causing planetary warming and have abandoned promoting this fallacy. They are waiting for the emperor to be exposed as having no clothes and to get on with real science.

Don't believe the hype.
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All the talk about "junk science paid for by deep pockets of environmental activists" sounds exactly like the talk about "junk science paid for by deep pockets of anti-smoking activists" in the 80s and 90s. In case you don't remember that "debate", a few scientists with connections to tobacco industry used lots of pretty graphs and smart-sounding arguments to prove that smoking has no negative health effects, despite all reputable scientists disagreeing. Same thing is happening now with the global worming, if you replace "smoking tobacco" with "burning oil" and "negative health effects" with "negative effects on the environment".

[ Wednesday, August 15, 2007 16:58: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Video Game Addiction in General
Nuke and Pave
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quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Sarcasmon:

...But in any case, I laughd when I saw you take that extreme. Unless you have Hep, or some other liver disease, a drink of alcohol isn't going to irreparably harm your body. Going over a cliff (no matter what the speed) will do grievous harm, even though you might bounce back.
1. In Russia, average life expectancy for women is over 70. For men, it's 55. Alcohol is responsible for most of that difference. (I know that alcoholism is the symptom rather than the main problem, but it doesn't change the fact that alcohol is the actual thing that kills all these men, even if bad economy, etc. are to blame.)

2. He said "try anything", rather than "try anything safe". If he is only willing to try things that will not kill him, we can get into discussion of what can and can't kill you, but he has to add that disclaimer to his motto first.

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Video Game Addiction in General
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quote:
Originally written by Nick Ringer:

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I'm 23, and I've never had more alcohol than what was perhaps in any cough syrup I've taken. I suppose I'm the first and Kel is the 2nd, then?
Well, yeah, you are.

Laudimir actually wouldn't be second. Out of the people I know he would be about 8th. And by the way, my parents and I live in the culture where every holiday is celebrated with at least a couple bottles of wine, and it's rude not to drink to every toast. However, most of the people we prefer to spend time with don't care if you drink a whole glass or a single sip for each toast. (So I guess I do drink, if less than half a glass of wine over the duration of entire holiday dinner counts as drinking.)
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I've always believed "you don't know until you try." Explaining this is usually pretty futile, so I think I'll go on tour around the world spraying kids in the face with warm beer.

Have you considered riding your motorcycle along dangerous mountain roads at the speed of 65 miles per hour? All the cool kids are doing it. As for the ones who end up at the bottom of a cliff, well, they didn't know if they could handle the speed until they've tried.

PS On completely different subject, about doctors, American doctors do seem too eager to always prescribe a pill. For example, while different doctors in Russia relied on antibiotics to different degrees, most of them would usually prescribe things like "warm drinks every two hours, interspersing acidic and basic drinks; point massage of regular cold points, and so on" for illnesses like flue and cold. (And by the way, these things do work, almost as well as whatever anti-cough and anti-runny nose medicine American doctors prescribe.)

However, doctors can't be blamed for this, because Americans simply expect to get a quick pill for any occasion and would be too lazy to follow "warm drinks every two hours, etc." prescription even if they got one. It also helped that USSR had a very generous sick leave policy, so people could actually stay at home and get well, instead of taking a pill to suppress the symptoms and going back to work.

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Most in depth game. in General
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quote:
Originally written by Karamea:

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I was wanting to know:
What game(s) are the most in depth. Which ones are the big epics, and which ones are slightly lighter?

What are people's thoughts?

I agree with SoT's recommendation of Geneforge series. The engine is very different, but these games are the best in terms of breadth of choises that actually impact the plot. As with all series, the later games are more polished, so if you just want to play one of them, try Geneforge 4 or Geneforge 2.

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Video Game Addiction in General
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While some people, including me, feel uncomfortable in social situations, there are times when real social interactions are required in life: finding a good job, finding a spouse, establishing a group of friends, etc. You can have "friends" online, who don’t even know your real name. You might not care about starting a family. You can learn to accept being stuck in a job that’s far below your abilities and qualifications because you didn’t have the social contacts to get a better position. However, life would be far more satisfying with at least the amount of social interaction necessary to function in society.

As for the hypothetical "social pill", it could be useful to get a person started on the right track. The standard advice is "invite some friends for a movie or dinner, etc.", but the problem is that to do that you need to be comfortable enough with doing it, in which case, there wouldn’t be a problem anyway. So a "social pill", or even a placebo, for that matter, could break that cycle and move you to a situation that can be sustained without it.

PS Somebody mentioned the "natural cure" of alcohol. That "natural cure" kills more people than all psychiatric drugs combined. I don’t know exact statistics, so the only thing I can say is that "natural" alcohol is one of the main reasons life expectancy for men in Russia is about 15 years lower than for women.

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What have you been reading lately? in General
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quote:
Originally written by Dintiradan:

By Zeviz:
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2. A 25$ book can raise your test scores just as much as any expensive class. You just need the discipline to study yourself. (I know plenty of examples of both people who greatly benefited from studying from a book and people who got little use from expensive classes their parents sent them to.)
To clarify for people not from the States, are you talking about that acronym test, or just high school marks in general?
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I was talking about SAT tests for college admission. They are somewhat similar to IQ tests, but are supposed to also test students' knowledge of material. Whether they actually measure anything useful is a topic of controversy best left for another thread.
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[ Wednesday, June 20, 2007 09:01: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Being Errorized! in General
Nuke and Pave
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quote:
Originally written by Thralni:

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Look, you really don't have to start lecturing me about being funny.
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Actually, the point of my post was not to lecture you on being funny, but to show you the hypocricy of your agreement with Alec when he said that:
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I do find it kind of amusing that the average age of the board is steadily climbing and yet the average post just keeps on getting dumber and dumber.
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This is part of why I don't like SW. I have a highly active sense of humor and apparently have some of the sharpest comic timing a lot of people have seen, but what I do is actually absurdist instead of "random" - which is to say, not nice big fat softballs lobbed at single-digit speeds, i.e. 'jokes' everyone's already heard twelve times and which don't actually bother to take a swing at anything.
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If you want to call everybody here an immature idiot, be ready for people to return the favor.

As the saying goes, people living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

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What have you been reading lately? in General
Nuke and Pave
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How is #2 misleading? I know several people who improved their scores as much as possible by studying from a book.

For #3, Berkeley's education is at least as good as Stanford's, as you should enthusiastically agree. :P

PS If you were referring to high schools in that point, you have to compare apples to apples. Compare top public high schools to top private high schools, rather than comparing an average public high school to a good private school. (I agree that an average public high school is worse than an average private school, but it would still take less money to move into district of best public high school in the area than to send your children to a private school.)

[ Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:40: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
What have you been reading lately? in General
Nuke and Pave
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quote:
Originally written by Drew:

... Also, consider what comes before this - the test prep classes, owning a home in a good, safe school district so they can get good grades and have a good college application, etc.
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People keep bringing up this point, so I just wanted to address it.

1. You don't need a multi-million dollar home to send you children to a good public school. The parents who get district maps before moving can find places where cheap apartments fall into districts of good schools. (I was going to one of the best schools in SF Bay Area even when my mother was unemployed and my father was working as a technician.) If people want 3000 square foot homes, they can take out huge mortgages, but for practical purposes, an apartment (or relatively cheap house) is enough.

2. A 25$ book can raise your test scores just as much as any expensive class. You just need the discipline to study yourself. (I know plenty of examples of both people who greatly benefited from studying from a book and people who got little use from expensive classes their parents sent them to.)

3. You can get a good education from a public school for a fraction of the cost of a private school. Private schools offer a lot more hand-holding, but I haven't seen any evidence of actual education being better than in comparable public institutions. (The only exception is that business schools enable you to join their alumni networks, which are important for getting your foot in the door, but if you are going to a business school, you can afford to pay off the debt later.)

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In before the lock in SubTerra
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Unlike Richard White's games, SubTerra was a fun game with a very small, but nice community, and this board has remained relatively spam-free even when the interset in the game declined. It would be very nice to keep it this way and avoid this behavior:

IMAGE(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5198/spamflys7co.gif)

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Dead Forum Walking: Epitaphs in Richard White Games
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quote:
Originally written by Thoughts in Chaos:

On the surface, this cult must seem like racism.
There is a whole thread about that: here.

[ Monday, June 18, 2007 16:21: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Love Life Poll in General
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How did somebody manage to get married before 18? I thought you couldn't even sign legal documents at that age (or at least that's what I was told when trying to open a checking account at 16). Or do these laws differ in different places?

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Being Errorized! in General
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quote:
Originally written by Najosz Thjsza Kjras:

quote:
Originally written by jg.faust:

Also, Nalyd and IFM are kind of funny.
I do find it kind of amusing that the average age of the board is steadily climbing and yet the average post just keeps on getting dumber and dumber.

It's amusing in the way that, say, Halliburton actually getting away with what they do is amusing.

This is part of why I don't like SW. I have a highly active sense of humor and apparently have some of the sharpest comic timing a lot of people have seen, but what I do is actually absurdist instead of "random" - which is to say, not nice big fat softballs lobbed at single-digit speeds, i.e. 'jokes' everyone's already heard twelve times and which don't actually bother to take a swing at anything.

So I have a choice to make. I can go for broke and get banned. I'd piss a lot of humorless people off, but I never cared much about them. I can join the rocket-tard brigade and knee-slappingly quote Foamy cartoons or whatever the hell passes for 'quirky' nowadays - no.

The only thing that leaves me, and the choice I wind up taking most of the time, is to swat you people down as hard and as mean as I possibly can. The hope is that if I do it for long enough, some of you might learn and become productive members of society.

Start joking, god damn it! Quit with the freaking references and grow a God-damn sense of humor! I'm too young to be a cranky old man and it's only a matter of time before I have to go with #1 and go out in a TM-style blaze of glory.

"The one who seeks shall always find."

The couple of Foamy fans had been banned pretty quickly, as was everybody else who had exhibited the same level of noobishness. So the fact that those kids represent Spidweb boards for you says far more about your expectations than about the boards themselves.

Our current generation of 13-year olds is acting no worse than the 13-year olds of five years ago did back then. The only difference is that some of those who were 13 back then are now horrified at that behavior and think that "We were never this bad. What's up with the youth these days?!"

PS On a related note:
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Originally written by Thralni:

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Originally written by Calphrexo:

Chicken gods. :rolleyes:

And Najosz is Alec, in case you didn't remember.

What's wrong with chicken gods?
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The thing wrong with chicken gods is the same thing that is wrong with Demon Muffins, hordes of undead followers, and other such gimmicks. The amusement value of these things, if there was any to begin with, is lost long before the gimmick user realizes it. So as the person who was putting references to chicken gods into every other post long after they've stopped being funny, you really shouldn't feel superior to those who do the same thing with references to Demon Muffins.

[ Monday, June 18, 2007 15:55: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Deleting Non-Spiderweb Games Forums in General
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quote:
Originally written by Drew:

I think the point of posting in those forums would be made further moot by the fact that (I believe) Jeff will no longer be offering those games for sale at all. So you would be hosting forums for games that no longer are available.
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SubTerra is still available. In fact, it was released as freeware a couple years ago, so you can download the full version from Radiant's site. (Which might be a reason Spidweb is no longer supporting it.)

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Whatever Happened to. . . in General
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EDIT: Never mind. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[ Wednesday, June 06, 2007 09:45: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Whatever Happened to. . . in General
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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

In other words, what is the purpose of the forum? Does it have any use that can't be fulfilled here or at SV or Desp or Polaris or wherever?
I think you now have your answer: The purpose of that forum is to give people capable of making "1500 posts with 3 or 4 active members" a place to do it away from the official Spidweb forum. Which is actually kind of similar to the purpose of ShadowVale, Polaris, Desperance, and all other satellites over the years.

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