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Originally posted by iDavid:
Ugh. I only have time to respond to Jigga. After clarifying that I meant for, not against, in that first part, of course.

OK, so you're saying that collecting taxes and enforcing laws to stop people from harming others isn't doing what's good for us? How does that make sense? Do you think they should legalize suicide, too, because the person is killing themself, not someone else?
It is the business of the state to save man from itself, not one man from himself.

Says who? Well, just every study conducted on the effects of pot... so I guess that's just an argument about whether pot is bad or not, not whether it should be legal or not.
Um, "just every study conducted on the effects of pot" have been conducted under uniformly ridiculous circumstances -- rats under the influence of the mass-equivalent of several pounds taken in in one sitting by a human being, simians being administered THC in inordinate amounts at a constant rate, etc. The only vaguely accurate data on marijuana that has not been taken from a completely nonscientific experiment, latched onto by the government drug-enforcement propaganda machine, and turned into common knowledge are ones associating certain behaviors with smoking of marijuana, but those are statistics, and often mistake cause for effect, or group all marijuana users with certain marijuana users. ["X percent of automobile accidents are caused by at least one driver under the influence of marijuana" is an invalid statistic, for example: it wouldn't matter if 75% of such accidents were, as there's no accurate statistic of how many drivers under the influence of marijuana get into accidents -- which would be MUCH more factual.]

Of course we're allowed to choose what to give up; why do you think we have voting? And if you mean that everyone should only be allowed to decide the law for their own self, than that's anarchy. Which I've already said is impossible, and it's stupid, anyway.
Dismissing an entire system of government without even addressing it as a valid possibility? You go, girl!
Everyone should be allowed to decide certain aspects of the law for themselves. Perhaps it's an issue of anarchy; Soviet citizens would have looked at the right to vote, to free speech, and to due process "anarchy". Does that make them such?

Most people do want to keep pot away from them. So, again, do you want us to determine the law only for our own selves? And, again, that's anarchy.
Avoid non sequiturs. If you want to avoid something, you are free to do so, but the state doesn't exist to shield YOU from everything bad in the world. In addition, restricting drug use to private or reserved areas would make it so that neither you nor I would be exposed to marijuana smoke -- which I would personally appreciate, being an asthmatic who has severe difficulties with smoke of any kind.

I've met plenty of middle aged people who smoked pot when they were young and want it to be illegal now. I guess maybe this all just depends on who you talk to, but I have heard many middle aged people, speaking from experience, say that they want to keep pot illegal, while I have never heard one say they want it to be legal. I think that even if I have biased sources or something like that, I would at least hear one or two support legalization. Maybe not, I don't know.
Suppose you know 50 middle-aged people. Statistically, one to five of them should be gay. Does that hold true in real life?
No. So you cannot dismiss the chances of your sources being biased out of hand.

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Originally posted by Sodium Cyanide*:
»What is your name?
Alexander Charles Kyras, El Presidente of the Autofascist Party; Chairman of the Aixoan Syndicate Republic™.
»What is your quest?
I quest also for the holy grail.
»What is your favorite color/colour?
Blue.
»What is your job (If you are unemployed, what prevents you from having more free time)?
Age.
»What are some books you like?
I'm currently reading through the series starting with "How Few Remain", with the latest book to be published being "The Center Cannot Hold". Harry Turtledove, alternate history.
»What are some movies/TV shows you like?
I plead the fifth.
»What are some computer/console games you like?
Starcraft, The Conquerors, Civ CTP, Civ II, Civ III, Fallout, Fallout 2. Sundry others.
»What are some bands you like?
{Here I include solo musicians what are not bands}
Pink Floyd, Aerosmith, Lynard Skynard, Elton John, Eminem, No Doubt, the Beatles, Queen, and so on. I include Prince not because I'm particularly fond of his work, but because he provides us with the ultimate question: What Would Prince Do?
»What are some musical pieces you like?
I don't rightly know. I do know that Gustav Holst needs to be shot, even if it means dragging him out of the cold, cold ground.
»Who are some of your favorite members on these boards?
I <3 you all.
»What do you think various members look like?
I don't have a visual imagination. The pictures I get of people tend to be when I've actually seen them, or I've heard a pretty accurate and consistent description.
»What do you look like?
Tremendous, with browning black hair.
»What did you have for lunch last Tuesday?
"Lunch" is propaganda foisted on the unwitting masses by the Oscar-Meyer corporation.
»What is your age?
I plead the fifth.
»What is your species?
Homo sapiens sapiens.
»What sort of computer do you use?
It is a PC.
»What plane are you from?
Se material.
»Are you male, female, or "other."
Male.
»How many holes do you prefer in the ceiling?
A fixture for a light and a fan, and another one to further my... social agendas.
»When did you last brush your teeth?
This morning.
»Do you feed lemons to your pet alligator?
No. The lemons I do get I choose not to squander, as I either get them from a lunchtime associate of mine who is a lesbian and obsessed with yaoi, or Imban, who is decisively not two out of the three qualities aforementioned.
»To whom are all your base belong?
To Mao. We've had this conversation before.
»What region of the universe are you posting from?
The precise center.
»What does (§³·ß)Ð/µª=ƒ mean?
Quantity of paragraph cubed times SS multiplied by D-thong over mu squared equals function.
»What is the appropriate usage of the word "EVOL"?
There is no such animal.
»Did I forget anything?
Maybe
you'll think of me
when you are all alone
Maybe the one
who is waiting for you
will prove untrue
then what will you do?
Maybe you'll sit and sigh
wishing that I were near
Then
Maybe you'll ask me to come back again
and maybe
I'll say
maybe
*
And since "school project" is so overused,
this is for YOUR OWN GOOD

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Originally posted by Darkwind K'sheyna:
I'm very sorry too say this, but I feel offended at Ooklah the Moc's statement.

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I'm a devout Christian,

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and that is a direct insult to my God (greasing the palms of the money lenders).

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