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An Organized Geneforge 3 Wishlist (Please Read Jeff!) in Geneforge 2
Mongolian Barbeque
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Profile #22
I'm glad Jeff is continuing the Avernum saga, but I'm really wondering what else can be done with that world. Apart from having the BoE/BoA communities staking out territories and defending them to the bitter death, the Avernum story was as far as I could see pretty much finished. There's lots of room for "filling in the cracks" so to speak, but it's a strain to see what other Big Things could happen. But Jeff hasn't disappointed in this regard so far, so I'm hopeful.

The Geneforge world, on the other hand, seems capable of being expanded almost indefinitely if he broadens the horizons a bit. Let's hope Geneforge 3 gets a bit broader... And I for one hope there is never a Blades of Geneforge so that Jeff can continue his own story expansion unhindered and uncontested.

(As a side note: I keep reading these wonderful siglines and "from" bits — quotes from The Prisoner, now from Farscape. And lo and behold, it's the same guy but under different names! I've finally taken a hint and written down your member number for future reference so I'll recognize you next time, especially after our SF interchange in the "Travel Between Islands" topic. Your names always seem to have the intials B.S.C. so that's also helpful. It makes me a bit dizzy when people are constantly switching their names around, but it never ceases to amaze me what a variety people come up with.)

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Really Really Weird Downloading Bug in Tech Support
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Profile #10
I'm using Safari 1.2.3 — but as I said, I've not encountered this problem with HTTP downloads. I tried an FTP download from another website and encountered the exact same problem.
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Blades of Geneforge in Geneforge Series
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Profile #29
quote:
Originally written by Notus:

Err.. 3D BoA editor has already been out both on Mac and Win.
Quite right. What I should've said is that I'm going to wait for a much better editor all around, that will feature the copy & paste function, etc., in addition to the already developed 3D editing mode.
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Blades of Geneforge in Geneforge 2
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #29
quote:
Originally written by Notus:

Err.. 3D BoA editor has already been out both on Mac and Win.
Quite right. What I should've said is that I'm going to wait for a much better editor all around, that will feature the copy & paste function, etc., in addition to the already developed 3D editing mode.

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desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
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Profile #54
Even if Raleigh wasn't a big city the odds are astronomical that he's the book seller. My remark wasn't intended as a serious suggestion! Hence the " :P "

Also, I've never heard of Raleigh because I live on the west coast. I've been to South Carolina a few times but never got the hang of the local geography. Too many small towns smooshed together all over the place, and I found the lack of real mountains very disorienting.
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desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
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Profile #54
Even if Raleigh wasn't a big city the odds are astronomical that he's the book seller. My remark wasn't intended as a serious suggestion! Hence the " :P "

Also, I've never heard of Raleigh because I live on the west coast. I've been to South Carolina a few times but never got the hang of the local geography. Too many small towns smooshed together all over the place, and I found the lack of real mountains very disorienting.
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desperate for GF3 in Geneforge 2
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Profile #54
Even if Raleigh wasn't a big city the odds are astronomical that he's the book seller. My remark wasn't intended as a serious suggestion! Hence the " :P "

Also, I've never heard of Raleigh because I live on the west coast. I've been to South Carolina a few times but never got the hang of the local geography. Too many small towns smooshed together all over the place, and I found the lack of real mountains very disorienting.

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desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
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Profile #52
This is about as wildy off topic as you can get, but I saw at the base of your post that you're from Raleigh NC. By a staggering coincidence, I bought a copy of *Myst: The Book of Atrus* online a couple of weeks back that arrived in the mail today. The seller was in Raleigh NC. I'd never heard of the place before! I don't suppose you're the seller? :P

Back on topic, I'm glad to hear Geneforge 3 is almost done. My teeth are wearing down from my pathetic grinding of them (if you'll pardon the tangled syntax).
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desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
Mongolian Barbeque
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Profile #52
This is about as wildy off topic as you can get, but I saw at the base of your post that you're from Raleigh NC. By a staggering coincidence, I bought a copy of *Myst: The Book of Atrus* online a couple of weeks back that arrived in the mail today. The seller was in Raleigh NC. I'd never heard of the place before! I don't suppose you're the seller? :P

Back on topic, I'm glad to hear Geneforge 3 is almost done. My teeth are wearing down from my pathetic grinding of them (if you'll pardon the tangled syntax).
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge 2
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #52
This is about as wildy off topic as you can get, but I saw at the base of your post that you're from Raleigh NC. By a staggering coincidence, I bought a copy of *Myst: The Book of Atrus* online a couple of weeks back that arrived in the mail today. The seller was in Raleigh NC. I'd never heard of the place before! I don't suppose you're the seller? :P

Back on topic, I'm glad to hear Geneforge 3 is almost done. My teeth are wearing down from my pathetic grinding of them (if you'll pardon the tangled syntax).

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Blades of Geneforge in Geneforge Series
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #27
quote:
Originally written by Betamax sales collapsed.:

I'm not a programmer, and each time I've tried to make a scenario, I'm so scared that I stop. I've mapped a couple, but only on paper.
I worked on the basic idea for my scenario for a year or more before BoA came out, and up until early January of this year it fleshed out nicely. However, when I came to using the editor to put the towns together, I found the interface very awkward and the crude graphics made it very difficult to see exactly what I was doing. It would take me hours to try to get a single buliding done, because I would have to constantly re-load the scenario in the BoA game to see how these crude graphics translated into 3D. Even though I was using the BoA Cookbook (an excellent document!) it was impossible. Mind you, I'm not terribly good with spatial relationships to begin with, and am not very technically minded, so some of these problems are something I would encounter regardless of how easy to use the editor was.

So my rich scenario died a miserable death just as it was being put together. I hope the new editor being developed by various people is finished some day so that I can have better tools for completing it — for one thing, from what I read it'll have the 3D mode which will speed things up considerably. But I'm very sad that I won't be able to enter mine in the scenario contest.

[ Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:54: Message edited by: Icshi ]
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
Blades of Geneforge in Geneforge 2
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #27
quote:
Originally written by Betamax sales collapsed.:

I'm not a programmer, and each time I've tried to make a scenario, I'm so scared that I stop. I've mapped a couple, but only on paper.
I worked on the basic idea for my scenario for a year or more before BoA came out, and up until early January of this year it fleshed out nicely. However, when I came to using the editor to put the towns together, I found the interface very awkward and the crude graphics made it very difficult to see exactly what I was doing. It would take me hours to try to get a single buliding done, because I would have to constantly re-load the scenario in the BoA game to see how these crude graphics translated into 3D. Even though I was using the BoA Cookbook (an excellent document!) it was impossible. Mind you, I'm not terribly good with spatial relationships to begin with, and am not very technically minded, so some of these problems are something I would encounter regardless of how easy to use the editor was.

So my rich scenario died a miserable death just as it was being put together. I hope the new editor being developed by various people is finished some day so that I can have better tools for completing it — for one thing, from what I read it'll have the 3D mode which will speed things up considerably. But I'm very sad that I won't be able to enter mine in the scenario contest.

[ Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:54: Message edited by: Icshi ]

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Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
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Member # 1528
Profile #47
As much as I love Macintosh, nonetheless as a discerning reader I feel obligated to point out that Macworld is far from being the most unbiased source of information. ;)
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
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Profile #47
As much as I love Macintosh, nonetheless as a discerning reader I feel obligated to point out that Macworld is far from being the most unbiased source of information. ;)
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge 2
Mongolian Barbeque
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Profile #47
As much as I love Macintosh, nonetheless as a discerning reader I feel obligated to point out that Macworld is far from being the most unbiased source of information. ;)

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Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #37
quote:
Originally written by me the master hahaha:

its march third shouldn't geneforge 3 be out now ????
"It's December 3rd — isn't it Christmas yet?" :P But seriously, I know just how you feel.

I expect the release date to be middle or late March.
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #37
quote:
Originally written by me the master hahaha:

its march third shouldn't geneforge 3 be out now ????
"It's December 3rd — isn't it Christmas yet?" :P But seriously, I know just how you feel.

I expect the release date to be middle or late March.
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge 2
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #37
quote:
Originally written by me the master hahaha:

its march third shouldn't geneforge 3 be out now ????
"It's December 3rd — isn't it Christmas yet?" :P But seriously, I know just how you feel.

I expect the release date to be middle or late March.

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My Tribute to the Greatest Writer of the Science Fiction Golden Age
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #28
It's always interesting to see how these threads wander off topic. :)

I emailed Jeff yesterday to get the keys for my OS X versions of various games, and I mentioned how eagerly I was awaiting Geneforge 3. In his reply he stated "Geneforge 3 is moving right along" which is encouraging but also conveniently ambiguous.

Still, one never does want to bring down the wrath of the gods by being overconfident and saying things like "Oh yeah, it'll be out next Tuesday guaranteed, a real piece of cake, that." ZAP! You're rushed to the hospital and can't complete the task at hand for another six months. Or KATHUNK! a tree falls on your house during a thunderstorm. They'll find a way...
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge Series
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Profile #28
It's always interesting to see how these threads wander off topic. :)

I emailed Jeff yesterday to get the keys for my OS X versions of various games, and I mentioned how eagerly I was awaiting Geneforge 3. In his reply he stated "Geneforge 3 is moving right along" which is encouraging but also conveniently ambiguous.

Still, one never does want to bring down the wrath of the gods by being overconfident and saying things like "Oh yeah, it'll be out next Tuesday guaranteed, a real piece of cake, that." ZAP! You're rushed to the hospital and can't complete the task at hand for another six months. Or KATHUNK! a tree falls on your house during a thunderstorm. They'll find a way...
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
desperate for GF3 in Geneforge 2
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #28
It's always interesting to see how these threads wander off topic. :)

I emailed Jeff yesterday to get the keys for my OS X versions of various games, and I mentioned how eagerly I was awaiting Geneforge 3. In his reply he stated "Geneforge 3 is moving right along" which is encouraging but also conveniently ambiguous.

Still, one never does want to bring down the wrath of the gods by being overconfident and saying things like "Oh yeah, it'll be out next Tuesday guaranteed, a real piece of cake, that." ZAP! You're rushed to the hospital and can't complete the task at hand for another six months. Or KATHUNK! a tree falls on your house during a thunderstorm. They'll find a way...

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Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
Really Really Weird Downloading Bug in Tech Support
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #5
I was able to download the games just fine using the HTTP transfer method, rather than the FTP. I don't know what that means, but it did work.
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
Travel between islands in GF3 in Geneforge Series
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #21
quote:
Originally written by Bireme sailor's concubine:

Thanks for the Dr. Who recommendations. I'll try to buy the first one. Thank you very much for the offer. But mail down here (Venezuela) is a mess.
No problem — although the U.S. mail is better than in most countries, it's becoming increasingly unreliable too, and I understand your trepidation. My own family recently had a bit of a fiasco involving important papers sent through the post that disappeared and then arrived too late to be any good.

I didn't know you lived in Venezuela! That's quite a ways away.

The *Faction Paradox* books are published by Mad Norwegian Press. Here's their website — you can visit it to learn more about the series' background and the individual books themselves:

http://www.madnorwegian.com
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
Travel between islands in GF3 in Geneforge Series
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #21
quote:
Originally written by Bireme sailor's concubine:

Thanks for the Dr. Who recommendations. I'll try to buy the first one. Thank you very much for the offer. But mail down here (Venezuela) is a mess.
No problem — although the U.S. mail is better than in most countries, it's becoming increasingly unreliable too, and I understand your trepidation. My own family recently had a bit of a fiasco involving important papers sent through the post that disappeared and then arrived too late to be any good.

I didn't know you lived in Venezuela! That's quite a ways away.

The *Faction Paradox* books are published by Mad Norwegian Press. Here's their website — you can visit it to learn more about the series' background and the individual books themselves:

http://www.madnorwegian.com
Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
Travel between islands in GF3 in Geneforge 2
Mongolian Barbeque
Member # 1528
Profile #21
quote:
Originally written by Bireme sailor's concubine:

Thanks for the Dr. Who recommendations. I'll try to buy the first one. Thank you very much for the offer. But mail down here (Venezuela) is a mess.
No problem — although the U.S. mail is better than in most countries, it's becoming increasingly unreliable too, and I understand your trepidation. My own family recently had a bit of a fiasco involving important papers sent through the post that disappeared and then arrived too late to be any good.

I didn't know you lived in Venezuela! That's quite a ways away.

The *Faction Paradox* books are published by Mad Norwegian Press. Here's their website — you can visit it to learn more about the series' background and the individual books themselves:

http://www.madnorwegian.com

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