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puresteel items in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Tuesday, April 19 2005 12:25 Profile #2
Yep -- after completing Phasia's Quest, I found only one other ring of puresteel. Better base protection or even a 13-52 damage sword just doesn't make up for the benefits of enchanted gear.

Just for fun, I mixed and matched my equipment a little while back to come up with a set that gave me an armor rating of 102%. Didn't make much of a difference against the spawned rotgoroths/cryodrayks/Ur-Glaahks in the lower Monastery (gotta love how spawned creatures give 0 xp now! :mad: ). I still got hurt, though a little bit less. :P

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Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Shops in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Tuesday, April 19 2005 12:12 Profile #10
Well, some creation parts might be worth it. By the time I found the component in question (Rotgoroth Fang), it wasn't of much use to me (especially since I burned the first Purified Essence I found on an All-Protector), but the +4 Strength Talisman of Might ain't so bad to have as a necklace.
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Shops in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Monday, April 18 2005 21:11 Profile #7
quote:
Originally written by Slartucker:

GF3 is definitely *not* the first Spiderweb game run that way. I can't remember how Nethergate handled things, but the earlier Exile games definitely did not keep track of items you sold. Almost no RPGs will keep track of that, frankly.
Correction: Spiderweb game _I've_ played. That means Avernum 1/2/3/Blades and GF1/2/3 (at least, I don't remember having a buyback problem in GF 1 and 2).
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Shops in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Monday, April 18 2005 11:00 Profile #4
What must've played some role in me never selling a bunch of higher-end equipment was the distant fear someone might want it for a quest. AFAIK, GF3 is the first Spiderweb game where things you sell can't be bought back. Not sure if it's a bug, but I'm reasonably sure it'll be the last game with this unique feature. :P
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Recipes in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Sunday, April 17 2005 14:32 Profile #17
Btw, where exactly are the demon claws? :confused:
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Training ground question in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Saturday, April 16 2005 17:33 Profile #5
The final reward for passing the five advanced Shaper's quests (the Bejeweled Bracelet) is, IIRC, exactly the same thing as the Five-Fanged Bracelet from Sharon's Grove from GF2. It provides a +2 boost to Fire/Battle/Magic Shaping as well as +1 to the Strength, Dex and Endurance of creations. Great if you have lots of creations, and useless (except for 10% protection) if you don't have any.
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Recipes in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Friday, April 15 2005 14:26 Profile #15
_18_ AP! Wow! Here I thought 16 was the practical limit based on what I've found so far (8 normal, 12 hasted, +1 Quicksilver Bulwark, +1 Quicksilver Sandals, +2 Crystalline Shroud/Emerald Chestguard).

If I ever find those Demon Claws (and I bet they're in the lower level of the Monastery of Tears), I'll go forge more artifacts just for fun and fill everyone in on the stats.
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
How to open the gate in Krya's refuge? in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Friday, April 15 2005 02:35 Profile #1
Keeping opening that book (and ticking Alwan off :P ). After the third time (the Iceborn Shade will show up), the book can't be opened again, and the gate will open. There's some nice things inside, including what looks like an extremely rare artifact component.

Note: The shades get stronger each time you open the book, so you might not be able to open the gate the first time you reach the Dhonal Docks.

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Conversation bug at the Geneforge? (SPOILERS) in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Friday, April 15 2005 02:28 Profile #0
Supposedly, I can convince Litalia to let Akhari Blaze get a shot at me before she does, getting 50 xp and a good ol' Alwan snort of amusement in the process. But as soon as I try going anywhere, Litalia shouts "that's far enough! It is time!" and goes aggro on me (though given her 16% hit chance vs. Alwan, I somehow don't think I'll have a problem winning that fight). Am I not going in the right direction (I've pretty much tried going in all directions)? Is this a bug? Or is my Leadership skill only intended to get Litalia's goat and some xp before she inevitably goes the way of Master Hoge?
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Spharon? in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Thursday, April 14 2005 20:21 Profile #10
Unlock, huh? I never did use it in GF2, in part because it never seemed to work on the harder locks and in part because manually unlocking things is great for xp. I'll give it a try.

EDIT: Hmm. Still only useful for the weaker locks, probably due to my low Spellcraft skill. But it's useful enough. :)

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GF3 damage and hit chance questions in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Thursday, April 14 2005 20:14 Profile #0
Is it just me, or is my lvl 35 Guardian both a little on the weak side and a damage magnet to boot? On the one hand, he's decently durable with the double-buff of Augmentation and Essence Armor (over 450 HP), has good armor, and has a 100%+ chance to hit in melee. On the other hand, despite having a fair Strength of 11 and a Melee Weapons skill of 10 (yep, that's part of why I can cast Essence Armor), he often does as little as 40 or less damage (without Quick Action and weapon enhancements) per strike in melee against decently durable foes. Also, though his Dex is admittedly only 2, he got sliced around big time by the Runed Serviles in Spharon's Lands despite the huge level disparity (they're only worth 1 xp). I often send Alwan out to tank and have enemies whiff at when attacked in large numbers, since it's pretty much open season on poor Dakro and all that damage does add up.

So...does this sound a little unusual, or is it just the way GF3 is vs. GF2?

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Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
What do YOU want to see in G4? in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Thursday, April 14 2005 15:45 Profile #18
More Living Tools. They're incredibly scarce in GF3, and I've tried my darnedst to conserve 'em and keep my Mechanics skill at a decent level (currently at 14).

Btw, if this more properly belongs in a separate thread, just let me know and I'll start a different topic.
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Spharon? in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Thursday, April 14 2005 15:40 Profile #8
Thanks. I'll take that as a "Spharon's Lands is a self-contained area, so I can feel free to raid them for every last Living Tool I can get my hands on without fear of missing out on the story. ;) (I can't believe how scarce they are in GF3, and my Mechanics skill of about 14 maxed isn't exactly low...)

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Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Spharon? in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Thursday, April 14 2005 14:36 Profile #6
Spharon maybe-spoiler question:

Can I feel free to blithely storm my way through Spharon's Lands without fear of missing out on certain plot/story details that you only found out at the Isle of Spears, or some other place I haven't looked at?

[ Thursday, April 14, 2005 14:37: Message edited by: Mav ]
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Recipes in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Thursday, April 14 2005 13:51 Profile #12
Really? What are the more appealing specs, and what components were you short of?

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Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Is there an island-hopping cheat code? in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Thursday, April 14 2005 02:54 Profile #0
It'd save quite a few clicks and a lot of hassle. Btw, I always wondered why you couldn't just "zap" through islands like you could through cleared areas (at least where the islands are on the same map), even though the boats never "move" when you use them.

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Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Recipes in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Thursday, April 14 2005 02:49 Profile #10
Yup! Take one weapon or piece of armor, place on forge, add a stone to forge, combine, remove from forge, and equip it. Easy as that.

Handy list. I think I'm gonna go forge myself an All-Protector right now, now that I know that I don't need the guy who told me the recipe (whose name escapes me) to do it. ;) Now if only I could find some demon claws to craft that Emerald Chestguard, my favorite item from GF2. Why do I have the sinking feeling I'll only be able to get that last component from the Isle of Spears (or, alternatively, the freakin' difficult Monastery of Tears) (hey, that rhymed!)?

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What do YOU want to see in G4? in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Wednesday, April 13 2005 21:11 Profile #10
Some humble interface improvement suggestions:

1) The ability to travel within a zone more quickly. For example, if you could just option-click to zap straight from Dhonal's Keep to the front door leading to the Inner Keep, or go from the edge of Fort Wilton to the skiff instantly. If "game-breaking" were a concern, you could limit it to function only in areas you've cleared. Or heck, even make it a magical item that you could purchase. It'd make navigation much quicker.

2) Make the "see abilities" tab more conspicuous. I didn't notice it was up there in the top right corner of the stats page until checking just now.

3) Character input repeating when saving games (e.g. if you want to rename a saved game, just hold down the delete key instead of having to hit it each time to delete a letter).

3b) Related: Being able to navigate the save menu with arrow keys.

4) Inventory navigation: The ability to use arrow keys, and the ability to use keyboard commands to, for example, drop selected items on the ground with a single keystroke.

5) The ability to use keystrokes to attack in combat, like in Avernum. Occasionally enemies right next to you are positioned such that there's a good chance you'll click on yourself and end your turn instead of attack.

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Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Maker's End pylon trap (second set): Never mind. Please delete. Thanks! in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Wednesday, April 13 2005 20:52 Profile #0
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Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Improving attacks in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Wednesday, April 13 2005 15:24 Profile #16
Note:

You can get an improved blade for Alwan by visiting Shaper Jolana (in the SE corner) at the Breeding Caverns at Gull Island for 4000 coins, or 2000 coins with sufficient Leadership.
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Is it possible to keep both Alwan and Greta in your party going to Gull Island? in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Wednesday, April 13 2005 13:38 Profile #0
I play a completely-loyal-to-the-Shapers-but-kinda-pro-servile Guardian. My Leadership of 12 wasn't enough to convince Greta to stay, but then again, I suspect that all the Leadership in the world wouldn't do the trick. Has anyone been able to keep Greta in addition to Alwan as a party member on Gull Island without doing something as evil and drastic as fixing the Dhonal Creator (which I'm quite sure would cause Alwan to bail)? My Guardian may clash with her apparent pro-rebel (or at least quasi-pro-anarchy) ideals, but I sure could've used her help and Searer spell when I was getting repreatedly shredded by that crazy mass of servile cultist spellcasters in the Cultist Woods.

("The Mass Energize! It does nothing!" OR
"I wish I'd put more points into Mental Magic for Strong Daze!") :P

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Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Enhancements -- probing questions in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Tuesday, April 12 2005 12:27 Profile #3
Thanks for the research Slartucker! I was wondering exactly why the enhancements were phrases instead of percentages. :P I'll rummage through my modest gem stash and maybe turn my Shaped Blade into the Flaming Sword I loved so much from Avernum. :)
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Improving attacks in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Monday, April 11 2005 23:52 Profile #15
Thanks again, Seletine!
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Improving attacks in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Monday, April 11 2005 20:41 Profile #13
Hm. I'm lovin' the Searer upgrade for Greta at the SE corner of Dhonal's Keep, but where's the trainer for Alwan (it's not Guardian Koerner, is it?)? Thanks in advance to whoever can fill me in!
Posts: 67 | Registered: Monday, July 1 2002 07:00
Harmony Isle: Anyone seen a lousy third icy roamer? in Geneforge Series
Mav
Warrior
Member # 1412
 written Monday, April 11 2005 13:33 Profile #0
Yep, it's probably a minor quest even for Harmony Isle. Yep, I'm a completist. But, going the extra mile or two has some nice rewards. (Selectively) cleaning up Diwaniya's underground lab (carefully avoiding the incredible bag-jumping small canister/hot potato!) netted me tinker's gloves, and going on the not-really-a-quest hunting expedition at the Dhonal Docks scored me a skein of wisdom (also something I wasn't expecting to see so early) and restoration spores!

But I digress. Do I just have to keep hopping through every zone and actually walk all over the place until I feel "a soft chill"?
Or is there a better way? Thanks!

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