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The 2008 Elections in General
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Now we know why America elected Bush twice in a row.

But to be frank, while Obama may be 'inexperienced' (and associated with a 'black powah!' church), I find Hillary repugnant. From her voice to her crocodile tears, to her constantly mentioning her gender to win votes. Paraphrased: "We owe it to ourselves to elect a female president in 2008!" ie. Don't elect me because of my policies or competency... elect me because of my gender!
I wanted to pound the hag's face in when I heard that.

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Kel:

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The Romans famously threw Christians to the lions, for example,

Christian persecution under Roman rule is grossly overexaggerated and misrepresented. The conflict was not a religious one, but a political one. Christians were seen as radicals and hence disloyal to Rome, which resulted in them being used as scapegoats when something went wrong with the Roman Empire. Nothing in the Roman religion demanded that they persecute those of other faiths. That's the main point which you can't seem to wrap your head around. It's explicitly stated in Islamic scriptures to persecute those not of your religion. There is no such rule in Roman polytheism (or any polytheism that I am aware of, though I may be wrong).

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but they also had an extremely rocky relationship with the Jews of the time and ended up destroying their Temple.

Could that be because the Jews were revolting against Roman rule? Under Roman law, the Jews were allowed to practice their local laws and customs, yet continued attacks against their occupiers lead to the destruction of the Great Temple by Titus. So once again, this conflict had nothing to do with Roman religious beliefs being intolerance of other religious beliefs, but due to secular political motives.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 23:08: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Also: Romans did persecute those not of the faith, as did all ancient cultures with state religions.
False. Until being Christianized, it was common practice for the Romans to allow the peoples in conquered territories to retain their customs and religious beliefs. In fact, the 'state' Roman polytheistic religion went to far as to incorporate some of these foreign Gods into their own religion, especially the Greek Gods.

Religious tolerance is a trait of polytheism. The same cannot be said for monotheism, which refuses to accept Gods other than its own.

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Shari'a is only the foundation of law in Saudi Arabia and Iran at this point, and to some extent in Afghanistan, Libya, and Sudan.

Isn't that nice. Would you like to live under Sharia, Kel? Do you fancy Islamic law? Would you like to be treated as a dhimmi?

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Turkey, Indonesia, Bangladesh, and a host of other predominantly Muslim countries will have nothing to do with Shari'a,

An oversimplification. Political Islam is present in both Bangladesh and Indonesia, and to a lesser degree, Turkey (most likely thanks to Ataturk and Westernisation).

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because Islam is not inherently political.

False. Islam is by its very nature political, you only need to have even a cursory glance at the Surah, Hadith and Koran to realize that Islam is political, especially in regards to the kafir. Separation of church and state is anathema to Islam.

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Hahahah, good one. Do you have something other than inane comments to contribute to this discussion?

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Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Because when I said "...the polytheistic religions full of kickass semi-nude muscular gods which are native to Western people.", I obviously meant only the Roman polytheistic religion, right? Maybe you need to take a few lessons in literary comprehension, Kel.

While on the subject, one must consider that the Romans' polytheism never compelled them to persecute those not of the faith. Conquered peoples were (in general) still entitled to practice their faith and customs without living with the fear of being forcibly converted, or spat at in the street. You can't say the same for non-Muslims under Sharia. Hell, the women in Roman society probably had it better than women do in current day Islamic states.

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Roman morals were, well, morales: they were related to social mores, which were just customs. And these customs endorsed slavery, subjugated women, viewed all non-Romans as inferior,

Wow, that sounds like a pretty accurate description of customs under an Islamic state with Sharia. Oh well, I guess Islamic states are only living, what, 2000 years behind the times?

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 22:03: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Nioca:

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Neither side in this is innocent, but whatever crap is getting flung LT's way is being brought on by none other than himself. Have several members of the community, even myself, perhaps gone a bit too far in voicing their distaste of LT and his comments? Yes. Did LT take the first step across that line of decency, resulting in this mess to begin with? And did he then continue making prejudicial comments, insulting other members and regularly flaunting his capability to violate the CoC as well? Also yes.

Even if those words aren't sincere, and this is just trolling, they still carry the same exact impact, and I, personally, believe they should be dealt with as such. And if those really are his opinions, he should take them elsewhere, because this isn't the place for them.

Translated: "Boo hoo hoo hoo hoo, waa waa waa!"

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Originally written by Kelandon:


The first is about the religion of Islam. Islam is, like any other religion, open to interpretation. I have to think that the core message of Islam is peace,

I disagree very strongly with the above assertion. Islam is by its very nature a warlike religion. Verses promoting violence against and the persecution of Muslims litter the Koran, Islam being primarily spread throughout Africa and the Middle-East through warfare, and the suffering of religious minorities in Islamic countries under dhimmitude, are all examples which blow the 'it's all interpretation' argument out of the water.

You might say "Yeah, well, Christianity is rather warlike is some aspects, and it promotes smacking around non-Christians, just read the Bible and look at the Inquisition.", and I'd be the first to agree with you, although it's coercive nature and persecution of non-Christians has been toned down in the last few centuries due to the wimpification of the West. You can't say the same for Islam and its followers, especially for those who live under Sharia.

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For sure, though Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet, Islam is not a "turn the other cheek" religion; if someone attacks Islam, the commandment for jihad orders that Muslims defend Islam.

You act as though Mohammed's statement in the Koran regarding Jihad is the only example of violence against non-Muslims. But since we're on the subject of Jihad, from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

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In Muslim tradition, the world is divided into two houses: the House of Islamic Peace (Dar al-Salam), in which Muslim governments rule and Muslim law prevails, and the House of War (Dar al-Harb), the rest of the world, still inhabited and, more important, ruled by infidels. The presumption is that by natural law these domains will compete and fighting is inevitable therefore the duty of jihad will continue, interrupted only by truces, until all the world either adopts the Muslim faith or submits to Muslim rule. Those who fight in the jihad qualify for rewards in both worlds—booty in this one, paradise in the next. For most of the recorded history of Islam, from the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad onward, the word jihad was used in a primarily military sense. [25]

Note that if you read the above article, it becomes clear that (lesser) Jihad is meant in a military sense. While it is true that you have some Muslims who quibble about what Jihad is more important, whether it was to be established for purely defense mechanisms, bla bla bla, it remains that up until recently, Islamic states have consistently used it to justify acts of aggression against non-Muslims, and dhimmis in their own countries. Why on Earth it has taken these minority of Muslims over a millenium to reinterpret scripture into a message of peace of 'live and let live, no matter their beliefs' is beyond me.

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But this is known as "lesser" jihad, a less important and less fundamental struggle. The greater jihad is the internal one, the one involving the soul, the one for faith and for the will of God, struggling to submit truly and completely to God.

Yes, Islam revolves around the submission of the individual to a deity, as reflected by Sharia. Compare this to the idealogy of the West, which promotes individualism and unalienable civil rights.

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The other issue that needs to be cleared up involves the definition of "hate speech." Hate speech is defamatory speech directed a particular group of people as a whole, without regard to individual variations. Saying "Islam is inherently violent and discriminatory" is hate speech

So truth isn't a justification? One need only read the Koran and hadiths, and witness an Islamic state under Sharia to realize that Islam is indeed an inherently violent and discriminatory religion. Society is clearly stratified, with male Muslims at the top, female Muslims beneath them, and non-Muslims grovelling at rock bottom.

Pointing out some individual Muslims who are peaceful and egalitarian doesn't cut it, because all that demonstrates is that they have compromised their religion to accept Western values, much as the hard-line Christians/Jews have done over the past few centuries. Ergo. They are cherry-picking their scripture, and ignoring historical context, in order to conform to a culture contrary to Islam.

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because it is directed at all Muslims, as if they are all this way.

Ahh, but I never said that all Muslims were inherently violent and discriminatory. Try again. This time, actually read my posts.

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Saying "Some Muslims are violent and discriminatory" is not hate speech, because it does not encompass the whole group.

So if I were to assert "All inducted KKK members who remain true to KKK beliefs are racist.", you would consider that hate speech?

What about "A significant number of Muslims are violent and discriminatory?"

Or "There is an obvious trend, with Muslims being more likely to be more violent and discriminatory than their non-Muslim counter parts?"

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Criticizing Islam is fine on these boards, as long as you recognize that Muslims are incredibly diverse and have very little universally in common. Blanket statements about them are almost certain to be untrue, and then criticism turns into hate speech.
Ergo. Blanket statements/generalisations which I don't agree with are hate speech.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 21:20: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

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Originally written by Lepus timidus:

So you don't want Western nations to take in Muslims? It's nice to know that we are in complete agreement, then. Why on earth are we even arguing?
My opinion on Muslims is irrelevant; I just don't like you.

Man, such sentiments will keep me awake at night. I'm devastated!

But I am curious... why exactly don't you like me, old boy? You don't even know me.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 18:02: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Doh, that does suck.

Hey, for once, we're in complete agreement! :D

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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So you don't want Western nations to take in Muslims? It's nice to know that we are in complete agreement, then. Why on earth are we even arguing?

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

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Originally written by Lepus timidus:

Shame on you all white people. How dare you bend over backwards for some foreign religion imported by our mortal enemies in the Middle-East who used to continously rip your ancestors a new one, in favour of the polytheistic religions full of kickass semi-nude muscular gods which are native to Western people.
You can't be real.

You're the one who favours the importation of a religion which promotes violence, discrimination, and a policy of not assimilating with the natives.

Are you for real?

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 17:36: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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quote:
Originally written by Higher Game:

So is it ok or not to hate against haters? :confused:
My point exactly.

Edit: Well, not 'exactly', but at least you're thinking outside the square.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 17:22: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Originally written by Excalibur:

[QB]A very similar, if not identical, argument was presented in another thread. Arancaytar deemed your comments as a hate speech, which is in violation of Spiderweb Software's code of conduct.

Which was a load of baloney.

Don't get me wrong, this forum belongs to Jeff. Jeff and his mods can do whatever the hell they want. Yeah yeah, I know that online forums aren't a democracy, so don't bother trying to give me that lecture, because I'm way ahead of you.

But I do think they (including the glitchin' senior members) should stop acting as though they are tolerant angels. The truth is clear: Criticism of the East and/or Islam/Muslims is condemned by the collective on this forum. So instead of pretending to be a forum of free discussion which cracks down on 'hate speech' (oh how noble!), they should just be upfront and write in their rules:

"By the way evil whitey, criticising Islam/Muslims or Eastern is punishable by an insta-ban, as is Western/white pride."

Then the lines would be clearly drawn, none of this arbitrary 'hate speech' BS, which is completely open to interpretation. After all, what is hate speech to one individual may just be a commonly accepted truth by another. Criticism of the KKK may seem awfully hateful and bigoted to members of the said organisation, but seem like common sense to you and me.

The fact of the matter is that I'm unashamedly proferring an opinion which is considered to be radical and unorthodox (aka. politically incorrect) in the West, and am punished for doing such, while being condemned as a troll by the majority. What nonsenscial semantics. I don't go out of my way to upset people, but I don't go out of the way to conceal my beliefs or stare embarassed at the ground as I state them, either. If you are indeed offended, then perhaps you should man up and tolerate diversity of opinion instead of whining to the mods to protect you from 'nasty beliefs'.

All I ask is that the mods and members here be honest. Like a pro-democracy student in the People's Republic of China, I'm simply having my say, and outraged Communist police are running at me in Tiananmen Square to dragon kick me in the face for getting uppity and offending Mao and his children. And when they slip and fall in the mud and I laugh at their clumsy bumblings, I'm the one who's accused of making trouble.

So by all means, lecture and censor and ban me. But don't engage in this piss poor deception. I'm the innocent but opinionated and outspoken Chinese student who simply desires to express themselves, while the mods and senior members are the Communist thugs who wish to drub my kidneys with rubber truncheons until I piss blood, simply for going against the grain and offending their delicate sensibilities.

Admit that, and admit that it's not 'hate speech' you're cracking down on, but opinions which are considered politically incorrect in the West, and I'll shut up.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 17:21: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Where I left Demonslayer? in Avernum 4
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IIRC, Medieval and Colonial Era Western nations either used to give you a good flogging or execution if you lost your musket. I wonder what they would do to you if you lost their equivalent of the Demonslayer?

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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What 'kind' of arguments?

The observation that Islam is inherently violent and discriminatory? That's not an argument, that's the real deal.

The fact that the monotheistic religions were imported into Europe? Again, the real deal.

The fact that we, the West, accommodate foreigners who tend to hate us and our ways of life. You only need to look around you to verify the truth of this statement.

The fact that polytheistic religions native to the West were far superior to monotheistic religons because they promoted personal pleasure instead of suppressing it? Well, that is an opinion on my behalf. But I'd rather be attending an orgy than flagellating myself for thinking sexually of the married women next door.

Since when did citing the truth become a punishable offense on Spidweb?

I think it's funny how members can whine and moan on about how shallow and stupid the majority of the population is, yet when I make a critical remark about a smaller group of the population, everyone acts scandalised.

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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If I'm trolling, why don't you just ignore me, you dumb chits?

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Double post.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 15:53: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Wow, Pat Condell is right on the money. I'm not surprised that the liberals on this board aren't giving him a rimming, because liberal democracies HAVE been brainwashed and guilted into being tolerant of inherently violent and discriminatory beliefs, to the detriment of the natives. Vocal Muslims have made the very obvious observation that the best way to shut a white up when they criticise Islam is to call them an 'Islamaphobe' or 'Racist'. France and Denmark are two of the remaining European countries which have at least some cahones to stand up to these vicious brown thugs.

I'm not going to bandy words: Islam is inherently violent and discriminatory, just ask any dhimmi living in an Islamic theocracy. The fact that Islam is inherently violent doesn't trouble me so much, after all, which religion isn't inherently violent? My problem is that said violence is directed towards non-Muslims (read: The West), and that many liberals close their eyes to this fact while humming and hawing and accomodating their natural enemy.

Shame on you white people. How dare you bend over backwards for some foreign religion imported by our mortal enemies in the Middle-East who used to continously rip your ancestors a new one, in favour of the polytheistic religions full of kickass semi-nude muscular gods which are native to Western people. Granted, the semi-nomads of Europe might have sacrificed the occasional hot big-titted virgin, but their beliefs were still preferable to this Islam and Christian BS imported by foreigners.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 20:19: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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GF1, Trajkov ending. I must say, the end game artwork in GF1 is the most refined in the GF series.

Trajkov ending, pg 1, Trajkov ending, pg 2, Trajkov ending, pg 3, Trajkov ending, pg 4, Trajkov ending, pg 5, Trajkov ending, pg 6, Trajkov ending, pg 7

[ Thursday, March 13, 2008 21:46: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Geneforge 3, Rebel Ending:

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Nioca:
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As for me, I'm careful not to push my luck with the Administration, especially after having been warned by them.

I never thought you were capable of producing an insult that was warning worthy.

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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Pat Condell is a hero in General
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Originally written by Higher Game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq4ObP_rzrs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ZLXbKeL2U

Check your pulse if you don't think this stuff is absolutely hilarious. :D As much as I love George Carlin, I think this guy is much better when it comes to ripping apart fundies.

I find that a rottweiler trained to go for the throat is much better when it comes to ripping apart fundies. Especially those Jehovah's Witnesses who go doorknocking at 9AM.

[ Tuesday, March 11, 2008 17:51: Message edited by: Lepus timidus ]

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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I don't think so. I'm very careful not to repeat the same assertions ad nauseum, especially when they have been soundly refuted.

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
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[quote=Nioca]
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Except they're targeting the Shapers simply because they are Shapers, not because they're enemies.

Are you obtuse?

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
Posts: 136 | Registered: Wednesday, September 12 2007 07:00

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