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Infiltrator
Member # 9887
Profile #25
I was wondering the same thing, as well as "I don't want to read all that..."

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Posts: 454 | Registered: Monday, August 20 2007 07:00
Agent
Member # 8030
Profile Homepage #26
The factions in the game present some definitive points in reference to the storyline. Though it's completely fictional, some will defend one faction in the same way some defend presidential candidates.

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Decca Records - "We don't like their sound. Groups of guitars are on the way out."
Posts: 1384 | Registered: Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:00
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #27
quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

Huh. Why do most geneforge polls turn into debates of this caliber?
Godwin's law. :P

Discussions of Geneforge morality reflect people's views of real politics, so people argue as passinately as they would in any other debate about a hypothetical moral dilemma. And then somebody drags in inevitable nazi comparisons and things deteriorate from there.

I could have posted in the gun control debate instead, but that would be just as pointless as posting here, but more frustrating due to immediate real life implications.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Shock Trooper
Member # 9906
Profile Homepage #28
Nothing else worth debating in GF, besides, it keeps the poll active and lets more peeps use it, and it is always amusing to watch LT "post", or in other words, flame.

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Then someone brings in the inevitable Nazi references

Ack!! Don't remind me!

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 10:42: Message edited by: Xel'Raga ]

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Vivan los Drayks! Viva Khyryk! Vivan los Serviles! Vivan los Travokites!
Tastes like Bambi, delicious
No matter what name I have, people can call me Xel
Pylons! this is what you send to blizzard if they cancel Starcraft 2.
Posts: 301 | Registered: Tuesday, August 21 2007 07:00
Councilor
Member # 6600
Profile Homepage #29
All right, enough with the LT jabs. They get old real fast.

Dikiyoba.

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded
Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00
? Man, ? Amazing
Member # 5755
Profile #30
quote:
Originally written by Xel'Raga:

and it is always amusing to watch LT "post", or in other words, flame.

That, right there, is a flame. Nicely done. If you don't like what he says, don't read it.

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Synergy, et al - "I don't get it."

Argon - "I'm at a loss for words..."
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
BANNED
Member # 10430
Profile #31
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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
Posts: 136 | Registered: Wednesday, September 12 2007 07:00
Shaper
Member # 7472
Profile Homepage #32
quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

All right, enough with the LT jabs. They get old real fast.
So does LT's jabs. Yet they're still around, so I don't see why the former shouldn't be either.

Speaking of which, the ignore list only works for PMs. Unfortunately.

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Hz'ii'zt a'iiencf coxnen a'bn'z'p pahuen yzpa'zuhb be'tt'phukh'kn az'ii'ova mxn't bhcizvi'fl?

Nioca's Citadel - A resource for BoA graphics and scripts, as well as my scenarios.
Posts: 2686 | Registered: Friday, September 8 2006 07:00
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Profile #33
Doh, that does suck.

Hey, for once, we're in complete agreement! :D

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
Posts: 136 | Registered: Wednesday, September 12 2007 07:00
? Man, ? Amazing
Member # 5755
Profile #34
quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

Yet they're still around, so I don't see why the former shouldn't be either.
Hmm.
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A paraphrase of Lepus:
I feel this way about things and people, and I know they aren't popular opinions, but there they are none the less.

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A paraphrase of Forum Insulates:
Oh noes! Stop saying those things! You can't say them here! You are a flamer! You should be banned! Leave, troll, leave!

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A paraphrase of Lepus:
We have things in common, but I still have my own opinions

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A paraphrase of Forum Insulates:
Ur a big bully and I don't like you.

So yeah, that's my recap. And the Faction Survey poll seems like the best place for it.

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Synergy, et al - "I don't get it."

Argon - "I'm at a loss for words..."
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Shaper
Member # 7472
Profile Homepage #35
quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

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A paraphrase of Lepus:
I feel this way about things and people, and I know they aren't popular opinions, but there they are none the less.

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A paraphrase of Forum Insulates:
Oh noes! Stop saying those things! You can't say them here! You are a flamer! You should be banned! Leave, troll, leave!

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A paraphrase of Lepus:
We have things in common, but I still have my own opinions

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A paraphrase of Forum Insulates:
Ur a big bully and I don't like you.

So yeah, that's my recap.

Well, you portray him well as the innocent little angel. Here's a recap based a little more in reality.
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A paraphrase of Lepus:
I want to make prejudiced remarks and comments against things and people, and I know it flies in the face of the CoC and this being a family forum, but I'll state them nonetheless. Oh, and I'll insult several members in the process, and add a few other CoC violations.

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A paraphrase of community members, older and newer:
What's wrong with you? You're a racist! Hate speech is against the CoC! (So on, so forth)

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A paraphrase of Lepus:
I'm innocent! When is stating the truth a crime around here? [insert a couple more prejudicial comments] Shame on you, communist thugs!

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A paraphrase of community members, older and newer:
I don't like you. You're trolling, flaming, and should be banned.

Neither side in this is innocent, but whatever crap is getting flung LT's way is being brought on by none other than himself. Have several members of the community, even myself, perhaps gone a bit too far in voicing their distaste of LT and his comments? Yes. Did LT take the first step across that line of decency, resulting in this mess to begin with? And did he then continue making prejudicial comments, insulting other members and regularly flaunting his capability to violate the CoC as well? Also yes.

Even if those words aren't sincere, and this is just trolling, they still carry the same exact impact, and I, personally, believe they should be dealt with as such. And if those really are his opinions, he should take them elsewhere, because this isn't the place for them.

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Hz'ii'zt a'iiencf coxnen a'bn'z'p pahuen yzpa'zuhb be'tt'phukh'kn az'ii'ova mxn't bhcizvi'fl?

Nioca's Citadel - A resource for BoA graphics and scripts, as well as my scenarios.
Posts: 2686 | Registered: Friday, September 8 2006 07:00
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Nioca:

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Neither side in this is innocent, but whatever crap is getting flung LT's way is being brought on by none other than himself. Have several members of the community, even myself, perhaps gone a bit too far in voicing their distaste of LT and his comments? Yes. Did LT take the first step across that line of decency, resulting in this mess to begin with? And did he then continue making prejudicial comments, insulting other members and regularly flaunting his capability to violate the CoC as well? Also yes.

Even if those words aren't sincere, and this is just trolling, they still carry the same exact impact, and I, personally, believe they should be dealt with as such. And if those really are his opinions, he should take them elsewhere, because this isn't the place for them.

Translated: "Boo hoo hoo hoo hoo, waa waa waa!"

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"I am Barzhal, and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the products of his own essence?

No, says the servile in Medab. It belongs to the oppressed.
No, says the Shaper in Terrestia. It belongs to the Shaper Council.
No, says the Trakovite in hiding. It belongs to no-one.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Ascension."
Posts: 136 | Registered: Wednesday, September 12 2007 07:00
Shaper
Member # 7472
Profile Homepage #37
(I never thought I'd say this, but I suppose there's a first time for everything...) Thank you, Lepus.

That sort of reply is exactly what was needed to further demonstrate my point.

Ya know, if I didn't know better, I'd say that we might not even be looking at the actual LT, but someone who's taking his account for a joyride.

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Hz'ii'zt a'iiencf coxnen a'bn'z'p pahuen yzpa'zuhb be'tt'phukh'kn az'ii'ova mxn't bhcizvi'fl?

Nioca's Citadel - A resource for BoA graphics and scripts, as well as my scenarios.
Posts: 2686 | Registered: Friday, September 8 2006 07:00
? Man, ? Amazing
Member # 5755
Profile #38
quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

Ya know, if I didn't know better, I'd say that we might not even be looking at the actual LT, but someone who's taking his account for a joyride.
Praytell. What do you know that I don't, which makes that assertion false?

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Synergy, et al - "I don't get it."

Argon - "I'm at a loss for words..."
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Shaper
Member # 7472
Profile Homepage #39
Well, except for a couple incidents like the one just above, he's never really broken with his previous character. In fact, while this new turn in his 'personality' (assuming it isn't trolling) is surprising, it doesn't conflict with what he's already shown via the Geneforge debates. He's keeping to his mannerisms, right down to the way he nitpicks on insignificant details to find a technicality or asserts his arguments. The only change of note, really, is that he's gotten more aggressive. But then again, so have a lot of people recently.

Upon further thought, I will say that there was a marked change between 'Shapers of Rebels' debate and the one that preceded it. Namely, in the later one, he seemed to be a bit more fanatical (also, he didn't strike me as the type to troll). So I suppose that, between those two debates, it's entirely possible that someone else started using the account. I highly doubt it, though.

Here's hoping, though, that this mess ends soon. One way or another.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 23:07: Message edited by: Nioca ]

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Nioca's Citadel - A resource for BoA graphics and scripts, as well as my scenarios.
Posts: 2686 | Registered: Friday, September 8 2006 07:00
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Member # 5755
Profile #40
Western society has a long and successful history of penning unpopular thoughts using a pen name.

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Synergy, et al - "I don't get it."

Argon - "I'm at a loss for words..."
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Shaper
Member # 3442
Profile Homepage #41
quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

Western society has a long and successful history of penning unpopular thoughts using a pen name.
Dude, I knew you were a mutli!!

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Posts: 2864 | Registered: Monday, September 8 2003 07:00
Raven v. Writing Desk
Member # 261
Profile Homepage #42
I think Salmon prefers the term 'poly' :)

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"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
? Man, ? Amazing
Member # 5755
Profile #43
Don't make me cut the baby in half. Or was it a cow? I forget. It's been years, you know. :P

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Synergy, et al - "I don't get it."

Argon - "I'm at a loss for words..."
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Apprentice
Member # 6834
Profile #44
I stay neutral/in support of shapers atleast in 1 and 2.
Posts: 13 | Registered: Sunday, February 26 2006 08:00

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