Question for Geneforge Series veterans
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:07
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Hello all, I just ordered the Geneforge trilogy, along with Geneforge 4. I would like to hear the opinions of those who have a lot of experience with the series. Do you think I should play the series from 1 through 4? If not, should I start at a certain game and go from there (example: start with 3 and then go to 4)? If I do play the series from beginning to end I can probably plan on not getting to Geneforge 4 until I retire :) Let me know what you think... narpet -------------------- May all your hits be crits! Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, March 10 2006 08:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:11
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If you actually bought all four games, you may as well start with the first one. It's sort of annoying to go backwards in a series, because you'll miss the smoothing of the engine that you'll find in GF3 and GF4 when you go back to GF1. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 09:56
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I suggest playing through from the begining for maximum enjoyment and understanding of the story. Kelandon is also correct, though, if you play backwards, the game will probably become more annoying as you go because you will be moving backwards in technology or whatever as well. Technology is probably the wrong word but you get the idea. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 11:05
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Kelandon's right, start with G1 and work your way forwards. I actually played the Exile trilogy backwards, but then again, that's also the order I originally found them in (and later bought the entire trilogy on CD), and subsequently beat them in that order, too. Believe me, it's tough to follow any series when you play it backwards. Getting back on topic, it's better to play the series from beginning to end. That way, more things will make sense in later games. Also, the later games will have better interfaces and more refined engines, which usually cause some confusion if you play backwards (I think that's the point Emperor Tullegolar was trying to make as well). -------------------- Either I'm crazy, or everybody else is nuts. And I know I'm not crazy because the little man who lives on my shoulder told me so. If people don't think there's something wrong with you, there's something wrong with you. Posts: 558 | Registered: Friday, September 15 2006 07:00 |
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Nuke and Pave
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 12:51
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To fully enjoy the games you have to avoid reading the forums and play them in order (1 through 4). The negative side of "you don't need experience with previous games to play later ones" is that all secrets of earlier games are revealed in early portions of later installments. So if you do want to play all four, you have to play them in order. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 13:21
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Yes, avoid this forum avidly while playing for the full effect. Unless you are completely desperate. And for the full storyline to make sense, as it is continued from game to game, start at G1. -------------------- You Shall Die Laughing: http://www.worfthecat.ermarian.net/converted The Roost: www.roost01.proboards104.com. Birds of a feather flock together. Posts: 794 | Registered: Thursday, July 27 2006 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 15:39
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But if you like surprises, don't finish all of G1 until the entire series is done ;) . -------------------- May the fires of Undeath burn in your soul, and consume it. Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 15:47
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I thank you all for your responses. I have lurked here for quite a while and I've noticed that this community has a much more positive and friendly population than a lot of other places. So now I'm excited to start G1 and begin my journey through the series! Thanks to all of you, narpet -------------------- May all your hits be crits! Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, March 10 2006 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 15:51
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Also, you may find it annoying to not be able to create a wingbolt or something in the earlier Geneforge installments when you have started with Geneforge 4. [ Tuesday, February 06, 2007 15:52: Message edited by: Kyrek ] Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 15:56
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quote:My first thought was, jeez, what are other places like? Then I remembered that we're in the GF forum here, not the Blades forums. :P -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 17:15
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What's the difference between us and the Blades forums, O Great Executioner? Besides, of course, the general subject. -------------------- You Shall Die Laughing: http://www.worfthecat.ermarian.net/converted The Roost: www.roost01.proboards104.com. Birds of a feather flock together. Posts: 794 | Registered: Thursday, July 27 2006 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 19:38
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The difference used to be TM was usually in Blades and rarely in Geneforge. Playing the series in order means that when you try to do things you don't wonder why it doesn't work the way you thought it should. You really need to read the instructions because the spell effects change so daze goes from affecting one creature in GF1 and GF2 to affecting all within an area in GF3 and GF4. There are other differences beside more creations and spells in the later games. The combat use of action points is completely different in GF4. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Tuesday, February 6 2007 19:46
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TM isn't the only one not here. For a very long time before G4, the only GF posters whose PDNs I could easily recognize were myself, Delicious Vlish, and Student of Trinity. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, February 8 2007 11:49
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I actually started playing back through the series again myself some time ago in anticipation of GF4. As always I have been playing many other games along side them and doing other activities so I'm still only halfway through GF2 at the moment, esp. since I haven't played in about a week for no apparent reason. Before I was playing it less because I was tired from getting up early for school and on the weekends work left me with little time for games. (I work 9-5 and usually go to bed at about 8 and between 5 and 8 I have to get home, eat, take my pills, get a bath, etc. and by then I don't feel like playing anything major) -------------------- Ignorance Is bliss -Cypher (Matrix) Don't think you can; know you can -Morpheus (Matrix) sanity is overrated :) Posts: 130 | Registered: Monday, February 7 2005 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Monday, February 12 2007 12:09
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Working from beginning to end is a good idea. When you start at Geneforge 4, the gameplay runs much smoother and you may have trouble playing Geneforge 1 because you are used to the different engine. I had trouble replaying the first one because of the lack of spells and the graphics weren't as good. -------------------- "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 "But what ... is it good for?" --Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip. Posts: 152 | Registered: Monday, November 6 2006 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Monday, February 12 2007 12:39
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Wasn't that necromancy? -------------------- May the fires of Undeath burn in your soul, and consume it. Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, February 12 2007 20:11
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Okay... I just received my games in the mail (GF1 - GF4) and I am going to go with everyone's good advice and play them in order. The temptation is of course to play the latest game, but I know that I'm going to enjoy it so much more if I play the whole series from start to finish... Thanks for all of your input. narpet -------------------- May all your hits be crits! Posts: 23 | Registered: Friday, March 10 2006 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, February 13 2007 12:14
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Geneforge 1 is the best one though! -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Tuesday, February 13 2007 13:19
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Totally. quote:There were three spells in each category, as I recall, in G1. Daze did not exist. Yet. -------------------- You Shall Die Laughing: http://www.worfthecat.ermarian.net/converted The Roost: www.roost01.proboards104.com. Birds of a feather flock together. Posts: 794 | Registered: Thursday, July 27 2006 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, February 13 2007 17:21
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quote:Your welcome. quote:Nah, Geneforge 4 is better. Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00 |
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Canned
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written Tuesday, February 13 2007 18:06
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Yes, Geneforge 4 is much better. Also, when I told my brother that in G4 you can attack with no matter how much AP you have left and he said " Yes! Thankyou!" -------------------- I can transform into almost anything, though not sanity -Infernal Flamming Muffin -------------------- I can transform into almost anything, though not sanity. Muffins n' Hell. Note that revisions of the first part is down the list. Posts: 1799 | Registered: Sunday, February 4 2007 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, February 14 2007 10:28
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That was my reaction, too. It came second only to the news that carrying items in your pack would no longer cause encumbrance. -------------------- "I can't read this thread with that image. But then, that's not a complaint." -Scorpius Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4 Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Wednesday, February 14 2007 11:05
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I love the AP change as well as the weight change, very handy. -------------------- You Shall Die Laughing: http://www.worfthecat.ermarian.net/converted The Roost: www.roost01.proboards104.com. Birds of a feather flock together. Posts: 794 | Registered: Thursday, July 27 2006 07:00 |
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Nuke and Pave
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written Wednesday, February 14 2007 15:03
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I think that Geneforge 1 has the charm of being the first game in the series, so while it's not the best technologically, it might become your favorite if you play it first. quote:Posting in threads that are still on page 1 usually isn't considered necromancy, especially when the thread is less than a week old. Complaining about necromancy or offtopicness, especially when the moderators don't object to it, makes the complainer look like an annoying and clueless person who is unsuccessfully trying to prove his importance. (And I am well aware of the irony of complaining about complaining. :P ) -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, February 14 2007 15:08
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quote:"I have it! The big secret from Geneforge I! Now, I will tell the world that the shapers..." *Sound of two shots from a silenced pistol, followed by silence.* -------------------- Plaudite, amici, comedia finita est. Posts: 344 | Registered: Friday, February 25 2005 08:00 |
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