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What, demon sex being the best part wasn't a problem, but a convoluted special spell system is?

The sad thing is, Aran's right. :(

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Well, I'm not complaining about the system, even though it is convoluted. As it is, the mess of dialogues and text response queries is a scripting marvel - and if I wanted a simple drag and drop interface, I would be playing Diablo or something.

But you realize that TM is going to go nuts when he sees the biblical references (the river, the cross-shaped tombstones, etc.). And I can already see the comments about the "stereotypical role of women" regarding Phaedra. :P

There are a couple more glitches with town entrances (you can be sure that if there is a way to get stuck in a wall, I'm going to do it on the first try... :rolleyes: ); I'll send them all when I've arrived at Thassaka I guess.

Edit: Gremlinicon. Ha.

[ Friday, July 14, 2006 22:14: Message edited by: Drow ]

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The darn thing is called Exodus. If you're not expecting Biblical references, you're not paying attention. :P

By the way, directed at no one in particular, we've been pretty good about keeping spoilers out of this thread. Let's maintain that.

EDIT: Expect a new (slightly longer) version tomorr... er... later today.

[ Friday, July 14, 2006 22:29: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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I was trying to be vague, but I guess I'll only mention things in emails from now on. ;)

Edit: I'm stuck (refer to the last email). I have no idea how to get past what seems like a technical flaw to me, but what hasn't seemingly hindered anyone else. :confused:

[ Saturday, July 15, 2006 05:01: Message edited by: Drow ]

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Something that's bugging me that I don't know how to fix (or if it's even possible) — posted here because anyone with BoA scripting skills can comment:

BoA's handling of AP usage with scripted items (with special ability 207 or 219) seems incredibly random. I have a mess of dialogue boxes called from a couple of items, and anywhere in the process, it's possible to cancel these things, but sometimes canceling costs 3 AP and sometimes it doesn't.

I can't figure out why. I will do exactly the same thing (for testers, I type "cancel" in the text entry box) and get different results — 50% of the time I lose 3 AP, and 50% of the time I don't. Even if I actually go through the whole process and successfully complete the whole script (for testers: actually cast a spell), I have a built in deduct_ap that's supposed to do this work for me, and sometimes I lose 5 AP (as I'm supposed to), and sometimes I lose 8.

Also, when I try to use a 219 item (calls a scenario script and takes a targeted enemy) and there isn't a foe in sight, I automatically lose 3 AP, even though nothing happens — this behavior is unlike spells, since one can select Bolt of Fire and, if no one is in sight, the game just tells you and cancels everything without taking AP.

Is there any way around any of this?

EDIT: New version sent. Check your e-mails, testers.

[ Saturday, July 15, 2006 08:01: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
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quote:
Originally written by Drow:

biblical references (the river, the cross-shaped tombstones, etc.)
You know, I thought that crosses didn't become fashionable until after Jesus. Since the biblical Exodus is set before Jesus...

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And actually... I don't think that if Jesus existed, he'd ever want to see another cross when he comes back.

There's going to be alot of burned Catholics.
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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

The darn thing is written by a classics major. If you're not expecting Biblical references, you're not paying attention. :P


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In fact, I didn't much mind the ancient epic references ("Sing first, O muse..."). I can't place it though - Aeneid, Illiad or Odyssey?

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Giving away the plot! Curses.

That's an original invocation of the Muse, with heavy inspiration from all three major classical epics and my favorite modern one, Paradise Lost.

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Is anyone else suffering from the floor type 174 and its ilk (aka in the Strange Cave)? It honestly, not in a joking sort of way, makes my eyes ache.

I suspect that its repeating pattern, combined with the alteration between dark and neon blue, are to blame. My eye muscles strain when looking at it, maybe because they go from looking at a very bright color to a dark one and then back again so quickly.

By the way, I've created a replacement version for myself. If anyone else wants it, I can make it available.

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This one I don't mind talking about publicly: it's Luz's Exile cave floor. It is rather intense when used as the main floor in the outdoors, so I'm giving serious consideration to changing it.

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Exile Cave floor doesn't share many similarities with row two of this sheet, which is what came with Exodus. Maybe there was a problem converting?

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It's possible that she changed it since I downloaded it. I'll re-do it at some point and see what happens. There wasn't any "converting" to speak of.

EDIT: New version. Again. Probably the last update for a little while.

[ Sunday, July 16, 2006 16:19: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Kel: in light of the two new versions we got recently, I'll be playing from the beginning again.

Just so you know.

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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Giving away the plot! Curses.

Given where it's quoted from, it's less a spoiler than a teaser. :P

Sorry I didn't report anything in the past two days. I'll have the next mail ready this evening I hope.

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Done.

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This must mean that I'm not just crazy, and Exodus is finishable! That makes me excited.

I have no idea when I'll be able to get to the bugs in the e-mails that are coming in now, but it's likely that I'll wait for a few more people to finish, resolve all the easy bugs at once, and then gradually start working on the harder issues. (After I get through that, I'll take a handful of additional testers and start the second round.)

So keep the reports coming, even if I don't respond to your e-mails for a little while.

[ Tuesday, July 18, 2006 21:32: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Name by which you'd liked to be credited: rantalot

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Operating system (Mac, Windows, etc.): windows XP

Are there extra features if Bashikova is the last scenario your party finishes??? If so I should start on beating it again.
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quote:
Originally written by rantalot:

Are there extra features if Bashikova is the last scenario your party finishes???
That would be cool! Unfortunately, I don't think that's even possible. So no.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Well, in a certain sense it is possible, but people will probably abuse it in such a way, that you'd better leave it out.

I'll be on holiday from the 25th of Juli until around the 14th of August. I'll still participate in the testying, I'll just start abit later (that is, if you are done correcting the bugs until then).

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If you need another person for the next round then I'm up for it.

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EDIT:

BOOOOO double post.

HOORRAY BOA!

[ Wednesday, July 19, 2006 06:14: Message edited by: Lazarus. ]

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Mostly for my reference, these are the people I'm holding in reserve for the second round:

TM
Thralni
Raiden
Archmagus Micael
rantalot
Lazarus
One other

Thanks for your patience. I'm doing it this way for a reason, and your help (and that of all the testers) is much appreciated.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Hey all testers,

This weekend ended up being a lot more hectic than I anticipated. Somewhere this week I'm going to try to find time to respond to comments and fix up a new version.

You can feel free to keep playing and send me notes, though. I think I've heard from four people since the latest version, which means that about half of you have sent me nothing in the past couple weeks.

Those who are waiting for a more polished, releasable version, you may be waiting until September.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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