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Agent
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Originally written by The Almighty Do-er of Stuff:

Hopefully you don't mean the one with the dog, Magma...
Of course. The one with the cave worlds. :)

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About the lastest...

Yes, is a little too much professional. Try this in silver, with an uniform pattern.

[ Monday, October 02, 2006 17:37: Message edited by: Robert Daniel Oliver ]

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(ubb still freezes, eh?)

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drakey don't bother doing the magic, i'll be gone again after this

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Why does TGM not include a comb key?
sigh.

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I don't like the way it looks more like a business logo rather than a game logo.
goddamn no one told me we're doing a logo for a *game* :(

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I don't really like TGM's latest. The patterns hurt my eyes.
i'll be kind and won't share my opinion of your works. no wait, i think i just did. :/

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The sun is wearing the crown? What the heck does that mean? I know I'm reading too much into them, but if you're going to consciously include symbols you may as well be conscious about how you use them.
ask aran, it was his idea (you know, he's the guy that *owns* the website for which we're designing logos).

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[ Sunday, October 01, 2006 03:11: Message edited by: ValenciaRaptor ]
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The lack of satin/burn/shades or what those patterns on the sun were actually makes it look better.

There's one point on which I agree with Slarty, and that's the position of the crown - it is a bit confusing to have the sun "wearing" it, because Avernum doesn't "wear" the Empire either. If the sun were a little smaller, and the crown a bit larger, perhaps that effect would vanish.

As for professional, there are different definitions of that. The opposite can be "playful". In the sense I meant earlier, the opposite would be "unprofessional", or in other words, unskilled/amateurish. Just because it's a hobby project for a game doesn't mean it has to look like it was made by the 10-year-old cousin web designer. :P

Also, we'd be better off discussing this on Polaris or the EE boards. Wouldn't do to tick off Drakey...

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it is a bit confusing to have the sun "wearing" it, because Avernum doesn't "wear" the Empire either.
It makes a lot of sense, if you think about it. Who got thrown into Exile? Everyone who was creative, individualistic and had a mind of their own. Exile/Avernum has everything it takes to create an empire, though it may lack that which just clings to the power that is. If the empire wants to rejuvenate itself, it needs its cave world, its dynamic, its life and its sun.

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An interesting motif that just occured to me. Since the empire logo is really supposed to be a crown with a sword through it, what about a crown with a wave blade through it?

Anyway, I like the silver version.

TGM, ADOS certainly could have been more tactful with what he said, but he was only stating an opinion. If you can't handle a little bit of criticism, submitting creative work to be judged on the internet is definitely not a good idea.

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This one looks very nice. I like it a lot.

Still, Dikiyoba wouln't mind seeing the crown enlarged some.
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Embellished the crown. Fancier now, yet still no cheesy gradient.

Note that you can use any of the various versions of these logos I made, you don't have to use the latest. Just in case that wasn't clear.

TGM, I do apologize. It was a bit rude, looking back on it. What I meant was the high-contrast, busy textures used inside the sun, crown, and E's were too... umm... high-contrast and busy, to the point where it's distracting. The second one in the new set is a marked improvement. The crown still seems a bit insignificant in comparison to the sun, though, as others have stated.

EDIT: I'm thinking my crown resembles a cake a bit too much now. Thoughts? Maybe just extend the bottom stripe all the way across, and remove the silver from the upper one?

EDIT 2: Here's that.
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Dikiyoba likes that one, too.
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I like the new crown. What about the size, though? Have you tried shrinking the crown slightly and enlarging the sunburst slightly?

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Added some tildes too. I think it looks a bit more balanced now.

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Centered the crown and sun horizontally.

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Simplified the swords, since Aran apparently likes simpler designs.

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The one in the post right above this looks way too childish and cartoony for me. TGM's don't seem to fit, although I like the third one with the silver crown and silver letters the best.

Still ADoS with the cave and surface for me. It looks the best on and off the Encyclopedia page.

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I like the second of the three new versions ADoS posted the most, but it's still not as good as his cave.

I still can't quite agree with TGM's, although the second new one is the best of the lot. Avernum shouldn't be wearing the Empire, the Empire shouldn't be smaller, and the Empire shouldn't be silver. Making both gold would make things worse, not better.

—Alorael, who still thinks that TGM's are the most professional in appearance. The cave has a strong Exile resemblance, though, which is nice. It's so hard to choose!
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I think the crown in the crossed swords logo is all wrong. Isn't the Empire's crown symbol usually shown with no jewels at all, and with more points like in my logo?

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Encyclopedia Ermariana, oddly enough, says nothing about the Empire's crest. It mentions the flag, but it is simply four colored bands.

Also, there's something odd in the Arena Canon article... :P

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IMAGE(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/TheAlmightyDoerOfStuff/EncErm13GIF.gif)

Now with shadow, since that apparently makes it more "professional".

EDIT 2: Looking at it, I think it really does. I was being sarcastic, but whatever works, I guess.

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Oh, right. I keep forgetting that this web site is filled with tons of non-cannon stuff.

I guess the symbol I was referring to is what appears in the games on walls and in the Avernum 2 title screen.

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I looked at the A2 splash screen, and you're right. I see no sword through it, however.

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I don't know which crown I like better, really.

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I still think the crown should be pointy on the top, otherwise it looks too much like the Budweiser crown. Same goes for TGM's logo.

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TGM, ADOS certainly could have been more tactful with what he said, but he was only stating an opinion. If you can't handle a little bit of criticism, submitting creative work to be judged on the internet is definitely not a good idea.
i can't handle criticism, true, but that has nothing to do with ADoS' attempts looking horrid (and i'm only stating an opinion, here), now does it?

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The crown still seems a bit insignificant in comparison to the sun, though, as others have stated.
blame aran for that, you guys.

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I still can't quite agree with TGM's, although the second new one is the best of the lot. Avernum shouldn't be wearing the Empire, the Empire shouldn't be smaller, and the Empire shouldn't be silver. Making both gold would make things worse, not better.
funnily, all of the modifications are done based on either aran's opinions, or on the opinions of you guys. so you really can't blame me for not trying my best to please you. :)

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Now with shadow, since that apparently makes it more "professional".
i'd like to think it's because of the overall smoothness, but hey.

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I still think the crown should be pointy on the top, otherwise it looks too much like the Budweiser crown. Same goes for TGM's logo.
i'll try that tomorrow.

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ADoS, your different versions are certainly going for the quantity, but they're getting a little hard to keep track of (and compare). Could you make a page or something listing them in order so we might judge them more effectively? Or just admire, whatever fits.

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The all-silvery one is giving me the impression of a rough Xerox copy or fax.

Adding another element (such as a sword or waveblade) would clutter up the logo.

The size of the crown could still be bigger, and it could cover the sun a bit more (so yes, TGM, you can blame me for saying "on top of", when "in front of" would have been clearer :P ).

Here's the graphics sheet from Avernum 3:

IMAGE(http://stuff.ermarian.net/arancaytar/images/spiderweb/sunandcrown.bmp)

And the funny part is, of course, that the crown in this picture is absolutely horrendously drawn. :P

[ Sunday, October 01, 2006 13:50: Message edited by: Robert Daniel Oliver ]

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Oh, with the crown being gold (or bronze-ish) also, not silver, much like in the third one. And the sun colored like in the fifth version. Both of their colors lighter than now too. And the sun's lines a little less thick.

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Here you go.

t tgm: Antialiasing is for sissies! Real men like their lines crisp, solid, and jagged! (Read as: It was made as a raster and I'm too lazy to go through it meticulously antialiasing everything or make it over from scratch. :P )

[ Sunday, October 01, 2006 14:06: Message edited by: The Almighty Do-er of Stuff ]

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I agree with Drakey. Let's just vote the cave/surface pic in, commission whatever changes are necessary, and be done with this mess.

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Originally written by Slarty:

I agree with Drakey. Let's just vote the cave/surface pic in, commission whatever changes are necessary, and be done with this mess.
Next you'll be welcoming the boot that grinds your free will into the dusty plain.

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