Happy Fourth of July!

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I want to wish EVERYONE, including foreigners, anti-americans, and everyone else you normally wouldn't say Happy 4th to, a Happy Independance Day. As far as I know, none of us are living under horrible dictatorships or living locked up in a basement (involuntarily, that is IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/biggrin.gif) ), so I think that whether you are an American or not, you have the right to celebrate freedom. Happy 4th!

EDIT: Uhh, just noticed the other topic... ah well, Happy Fourth of July squared!

[ Friday, July 04, 2003 19:02: Message edited by: Sir David ]

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I wish all of you an introspective and thoughtful Independence Day. This is a day that has strayed far from its true meaning; it is now at best an excuse for meaningless partying and destruction and at worst an excuse for mindless patriotism.

Today should be a day to think about freedom and the ideals of the American Revolution and how well we've managed to abide by the principles of liberty.

Today is a day to think about the Patriot Act, the War on Terrorism, the War on Drugs, to think about the massive standing army and entrenched military-industrial complex we maintain in the name of safety, to think of the thousands in jail for possessing drugs. It's a day to think about the FBI, the CIA, the INS, and the DEA.

Today, we should all be thinking about how African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, and Native Americans, and women all make less money on average than Anglo American men. Let's think about what happened to Bill Maher.

Let's all think about how our civil liberties are constantly being eroded, let's think about the millions in poverty, let's think about the millions without health care while we go out and spend our money on bits of cardboard and gunpowder that go "boom" when you light them.

So let's commemorate the anniversary of the American Revolution by hoping we don't have to have another one.
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*claps*

Well said, brother. Meaningless partying is fun, but today is probably the least appropriate day for it.

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Dave, shut up.

i have no need to celebrate 'freedom' on an American holiday. i am not American, i do not need to join foreign celebrations. you, however, need to celebrate your economy being screwed over repeatedly, insane actions from the government, Florida-style democracy... the list goes on.

don't think that just because you live in the States, you get to assume that all would want to celebrate a special day in another country. flame me all you want - i do not believe in the symbolism involved in Independence Day, especially after seeing you trying to cajole 'foreigners' like me into celebrating an american holiday.

i know this is probably against the CoC, but Dave really ticked me off this time.

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TOO BAD, I AM A CANADIAN IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/biggrin.gif)

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"Wise" Man, why did you go ballistic against Mister David when in the other topic your whole post was this:

"i ain't celebrating an american holiday, i'm Canadian."

Take your foolish grudges elsewhere please. If you hate Sir David so much, then leave Spiderweb instead of making it worse.

You think I'm grinning with joy when people wish me a merry Christmas? I don't believe for an instant that Jesus was the son of god, but instead of getting offended that people aren't considering my beliefs, I'm just as happy that they consider me at all.

David is merely trying to lighten the mood on an occasion that is happy for him.

Wisen up, or take your wisdom elsewhere.

EDIT: Since it is a happytopic, the fireworks were pretty good, although I'm not sure if they were worth watching between terrible traffic, oppressive humidity, and ravenous bugs. I'm afraid that I'll wake up tomorrow morning with swollen feet. Oh well! IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/wink.gif)

[ Friday, July 04, 2003 20:00: Message edited by: Sir Motrax of Exile ]

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You dont see me posting my countrie's independence day.

EDIT: I agree with Varelse's point of view about the topic.

[ Friday, July 04, 2003 20:08: Message edited by: The_Nazgul ]

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No, I don't. But nobody would mind if you did!

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I'll remember to post it. IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/wink.gif)

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Uhhhhh... Which date again? IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/smile.gif)

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Oh, you want the date. Its on September 18th.

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Motrax, there's a difference between an excited fanboy and one who tries to convert others into thinking that the US is the best of everything, which is untrue.

nevertheless, it was an angry rant, i was pissed at the time and i guess it stacked with what i felt reading Dave's post. Dave, i must apologize.

P.S. no, i am not one who would post a topic to celebrate Canada Day. if i were one to do so, i would've posted it already on the morning of that day.

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Apology accepted. As for the morning... well, I admit that 9:01 PM Spiderweb time, meaning 12:01 here, is a strange time to wish people Happy 4th of July, since technically it was the 5th, but hey =] I had just got back from watching fireworks and walking around. Varelse, please, don't turn this into another argument... I disagree with your view of liberty, of course, but let's leave that for another topic.

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I usually only celebrate 6th of Juli IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/biggrin.gif)IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/biggrin.gif)
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quote:
Originally written by The_Nazgul:

Oh, you want the date. Its on September 18th.
Coincidentally, I think it's also "Talk Like a Pirate Day" in the US.

YAY4USA! YAY4 Dept. of Homeland Security and Patriot Act! The KGB American style!

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I celebrate 18th of July for the same reason. IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/tongue.gif)

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"Anti-americans" is a rather ignorant slur term. Seems to call upon diatribes against the left and foreign nations which stood in our way in crushing a dictatorship and replacing it with... a military overlordship. What did the French do for us, anyway? Besides, you know, being the only reason America isn't part of the Commonwealth. And being the only reason New England isn't Canadian soil. And giving us what amounts to the symbol of our country.
But we saved them from the Nazis -- who were created singlehandedly by our bungling intervention in the first war -- and don't they owe us for that?

Damn ingrateful frenchmen.

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Originally posted by Sir David: ...to all you anti-Americans, foreigners and people you normally wouldn't wish a Happy 4th to...
Oh, *thank* you, Dave! We who don't share your sacred beliefs are *so lucky* to have a caring, wonderful saint like you to take pity on us and be the bigger person by wishing us a happy 4th when we would all love nothing more than to slap you silly. You are truly inspiring. IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/rolleyes.gif)

Honestly, Dave--could you *be* any more disgustingly self-righteous?

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Many British people celebrate 4th July too. Can't think why... IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/wink.gif)
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I hate 4th of July but Happy Fourth anyway.

[ Saturday, July 05, 2003 11:06: Message edited by: Zx.a.quez ]

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I celebrated the Fourth by getting a horrendous sunburn. Yay for cancer!
Anyways, I was going to start a topic about the Muzzle Awards on the Fourth, but obviously didn't get around to it. The local indie newspaper (Boston Phoenix) publishes the top ten suppressed/undercovered newsstories every Fourth of July. While being somewhat specific to Mass./New England, there are always a few national surprises in there. Worth a look.

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Happy Birthday to me! Alles Gute zum Geburtstag!
Some Sparkling Wine for everybody IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/biggrin.gif)
IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/sekt.jpg)

And Happy ID4 for all Americans who celebrate 4th of july IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/biggrin.gif)

Edit: I just saw that you haven´t got 6.th of July yet. just be patient, it will come soon IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/biggrin.gif)

Edit 2: Added some y

[ Saturday, July 05, 2003 14:48: Message edited by: Iolanda ]
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We don't call it ID4 unless we're referring to the movie, dear IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/tongue.gif)

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OOooops, I´m sorry. So what do you say? Happy 4th?

We have got a day called "Tag der deutschen Einheit" where we celebrate the re-union of germany, its on october 3rd, but we don´t say "happy xyz" at all. Its just a day off IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/biggrin.gif)

[ Saturday, July 05, 2003 14:46: Message edited by: Iolanda ]
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quote:
Originally written by Sir David:

I want to wish EVERYONE, including foreigners, anti-americans, and everyone else you normally wouldn't say Happy 4th to, a Happy Independance Day. As far as I know, none of us are living under horrible dictatorships or living locked up in a basement (involuntarily, that is IMAGE(Happy Fourth of July!_files/biggrin.gif) ), so I think that whether you are an American or not, you have the right to celebrate freedom. Happy 4th!

EDIT: Uhh, just noticed the other topic... ah well, Happy Fourth of July squared!

Happy 4th to you too!! ( I noticed your's after I wrote mine lol...)

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