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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Actually, I was trying to ge the thread back on topic, not spam, but apparently I did. Nice picture by the way.

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Divinely Touched Elite Warrior Nephil In Real Life in General
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It's a fluffy kitten with a sniper rifle, holding a star. Does that predict that Alorael will start teaching sniper tactics to the people that made fluffy kittens common on this board, but then Stareye will disapprove and lock the thread??? :confused:

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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*cough cough* So, when do you think the next chapter will be out?

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Tactics - What Works For You? in Avernum 4
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In my current party on the demo, I have two nephil(spelling?), one an archer and one a lock-picker, a mage and a priest, all at least minoring in archerey. It is very fun to pick off goblins before they even know you are there.

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Like me, he probably has no idea what you are talking about.

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Naming Trakovites in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Are you saying that you want to put... oooh, I see, the first letter of each word spells trakovite. I don't think that would work, unless we found something good to use. Any way not everyone would support what was encoded in trakovite.

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If nobody followed anybody it would quite literally be every man for himself.

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Naming Trakovites in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Alright, anyone who thinks that the Trakovite motives make logical sense put

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In your signature. Also anyone who is not up for getting rid of shaping completely or right away, but do think the Trakovites have a point, can put it in your signature.

Nalyd: Apology accepted.

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The best way to spell Geneforge: "Genefroge"

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Good, someone else noticed his mistake. But really what is meant by "a Leeroy Jenkins"?

[ Friday, November 09, 2007 16:53: Message edited by: The Ratt ]

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Protesting (In General) in General
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I think that the whitelist blocking system would make a lot more sense if it was based in the school, not from a large company or whatever.

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The best way to spell Geneforge: "Genefroge"

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Naming Trakovites in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Is anyone actually interested in stating that they are a Trakovite and maybe joining? Or any names?

If not I may ask a mod to close the thread.

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The best way to spell Geneforge: "Genefroge"

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Naming Trakovites in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Excuse me Nalyd, but I politely asked critics to save their critisicm for later. Please read all the posts before posting. Next time you imply swearing I may inform someone. Notice that the CoC says no swearing. Thank you.

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The best way to spell Geneforge: "Genefroge"

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Revised political-geneforge sympathies poll in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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No worries, it was relatively on topic compared to what has been said on other threads.

But seriously, everyone think about what this war was originally started because. Intelligent creations wanted freedom, shaper lack of action, and more accessability to the power to shape.

We have discussed creation freedom. The shapers saw them as a danger (excluding serviles), mostly because if they got the chance the drayks, drakons, and eyebeasts would have tried to make humans slaves to them, even before the shapers started killing them. The creations are smart enough to realize they don't want to die and fight back. Since it's already in their nature to seek power they now have a reason to justify if they overthrew the Shapers. Unfortuanately they would not be able to overcome what was shaped into them, and just replace the shapers.

The shaper inaction was, not doubt, drawn from a strong logical reason. If they helped a village that was starving because of cold by making a grain that could survive cold then that grain would eventually get out of hand and start growing everywhere it could, wiping out other plant life. If they made a creation that ate the grain, then that creation would probably start to eat all the local vegetation, preventing the regrowth of the original plants, stripping the area of all plant life. Just introducing one species can throw off an ecosystem in inumerable and unpredictable ways. In the golden age of the shapers they probably took all that into account and decided if it was worth it. Later though they probably didn't mess with it due to laziness.

The more accessibility to shaping is probably the most dangerous thing that can happen to the world. Right now with more shaping the bad effects have not emerged because everyone has someone to target their shaping at. However if it were not war time, accessable shaping would be disasterous. If one farmer that could shape lost his crops to cold then the situation above could become a very much worse reality. Plus there will always be someone like Monarch that tries to use shaping to his advantage and starts shaping uncontrollable creations, maybe even as strong as the Unbound. But the worst thing that could happen would probably be the creation of a virus. That would be unstoppable and undetectable, as well as incredibly lethal.

The only way to avoid all of those from happening is to either limit shaping incredibley, or to get rid shaping completely.

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Protesting (In General) in General
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Sorry, I just got a copy of this letter today. The protesters didn't actually create this letter until a few days after the protest because people didn't know what the issues were. The leader of the protest and I are not on extremely good terms, so I didn't get this until one of my friends forwarded it to me.

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Across the Universe? in General
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Also they are wondering about how they will colonize the moon due to cosmic rays, lack of oxygen, and the fact that the moon is covered in a layer of extremely corrosive dust that literally gets everywhere.

[ Thursday, November 08, 2007 17:17: Message edited by: The Ratt ]

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Does anyone besides me think that them complaining about fruit flies is rather entertaining? Though they have the possibliity as a health hazard, they don't bite, or do anything harmful, except maybe eat sugary substances. The only way to get rid of fruit flies is to get rid of sugary substances, and I think that in a dorm people would much rather have fruint flies than not have sugary substances.

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Naming Trakovites in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Thank you Diki, your input (comical, and serious) is greatly appreciated.

By spreading the word I mean presenting arguements about the advantages of Trakovitism.

I think I could probably use the word Trakovites, but the beliefs of the Trakovites are much like a religion and also saying trakovite beliefs every single time is rather... tedious.

Any name suggestions?I've thought of Trakovite Union, Public Trakovite Association. Rather bland.

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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quote:
Originally written by The Iffy Muffin who...does stuff...:

LLeeeerrooyy JJeerrkkiinnss..
Check the spelling of Leroy Jenkins.

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Naming Trakovites in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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I am going to ask politely that all critics of Trakovitism please do not post on this thread unless it is on topic. I am relatively serious about this Trakovite group. Thank you.

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The best way to spell Geneforge: "Genefroge"

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Naming Trakovites in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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On a whim (and after passing it by a mod) I became interested in starting a pro-trakovite group, more likely for the point of saying you're a Trakovite, but maybe kinda trying to spread the word about Trakovitism. I am still looking for a name for the group. anyone is welcome to come up with suggestions for a name or join.

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Protesting (In General) in General
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Alright, I finally got a hold of the main arguement held by the protesters.

For the past few years, students and staff have seen the school
policies head down an extremely conservative path that has restricted
student rights and caused student grievances to be ignored or
diverted. While we can't speak for the entire community, we can speak
for ourselves and in part for those who supported us today. Since the
start of a new year at the ******* school, a sweeping change has
occurred in school policies, staffing, and attitude towards the
community that is contrary to the student body's beliefs. These shifts
in policies have crippled student speech, the social environment, and
the freedom of students. Students have the right to be treated with
respect, be given the opportunity to learn from their mistakes, and be
able to trust in the confidentiality of the conversations they have
with school counselors. The mounting pressure between the students and
the new policies hit a tipping point the night before, when a student
stood up for his rights and inspired others to do the same. While a
sit-in was not our first choice of action, all of the other avenues
for airing our grievances had been exhausted and further work within
those channels would not have accomplished anything.

Students love and respect a school whose views are in line with
theirs, many of us are here for that reason: because ****** (the school) believes
in a different style of educational learning that promotes and fosters
true growth. This growth is not only evident in academic arenas, but
also in individual and social well-being. We love this school because
of what it offers us and because the facilitators in this community
sincerely care about us as individuals. Even though we have
disagreements regarding rules and policies, we have always respected
the work of those who keep us in line and force us to grow. The people
who work at this school comprise a family of which we can be proud and
supported by. Because we see *****(the school) as this amazing place where
anything is possible, we are concerned about the direction the school
is heading in.

We had a lot of issues to bring to the table, many of which should
have been fixed a long time ago. We assembled a list of the six things
that we thought needed to be changed first. We all went back to class
except for *****, *****, ******, ********, and ******* who had
been elected by the group to speak with Mr. ******(Res-life director). They met with Mr.
******(Res life Director) at 11:45 and were alloted 10 minutes to present their points
and discuss them. When Mr. *******(Res-life director) looked at the list he got upset with
the students and started shouting at them while they peaceably tried
to engage him in a rational discussion. At no point did the students
raise their voices or get upset (I think this may have been said to make them looks good). Once things had calmed down, Mr.
******(REs-life Director) agreed to have a meeting with Mr. ***** (President of the
School) and have the students attend. Mr. *****(Res-life director) also said that all
the absences would remain unexcused and that those students who
participated would have a study hall during the Thursday field trip.
As of fifth period, all of the students had returned to their
regularly scheduled classes. On Wednesday, the policy was changed and
only those students who left before the Spanish presentation had to
attend the additional study hall.

We did not want to miss the Spanish presentations and many of the
people attending the sit-in did in fact wait for the presentation to
be over. We had planned earlier to make the walkout during Tuesday's
quiet period and we believed it was our only opportunity. People were
excited to stand up for their rights and take action against the
mistreatment that had been feeling and much of that enthusiasm could
have been lost. We created a new forum for speech that needed to
exist. Because the school administration knew of our plans, we were
concerned that they would prematurely end quiet period directly after
the presentation in order to avoid the walkout. For that reason, it
was spontaneously decided that it would occur then and students
demonstrated by standing up that they supported that decision. When we
left, everybody who left with us did it voluntarily. If people felt
pressured by their peers, that should be considered positive peer
pressure because they were encouraged to use this rare opportunity to
speak and be heard. Some staff members had talked to students during
quiet period before the walkout and told them there would be
consequences. No statements of that nature were made by us. It is
unfortunate that we had to miss the Spanish presentation and the two
periods before lunch but as we have stated before, we had exhausted
all other possibilities. We did not leave to disrespect the teachers
or administration, but to make sure that our voices would be heard. It
is unfortunate that the climate forced us speak in this way and
hopefully in the future, things will be handled differently.

Afterwards, there were a lot of questions from students, staff, and
the press as to what exactly we wanted. We have issued this statement
to help resolve some misconceptions about what happened. We wrote down
the top six issues we want fixed and they are as follows:

1.Going into *******(the local town) without *********(having a 3.5 GPA or better) on Weekdays– The school is
taking away a privilege. One of the things that makes this school so
great it that it causes students to grow and in order to grow we must
be able to make our mistakes and learn from them. The new set of
policies don't even give students that chance. Students should be
given privileges and have them revoked if they make mistakes instead
of making them earn those privileges. Students also need an
opportunity to get groceries and supplies for the week that they can't
get at the school store. This new rule represents the direction that
the school's policies are taking.
2.Web Filtering Needs to be Fixed – Around third quarter last year a
critical change was made in the school web filtering policies. The
school moved from a blacklisting system to a whitelisting system. In a
blacklist, the filter blocks every site that is has been rated
inappropriate whereas in a whitelisting system every single site that
hasn't been reviewed and deemed appropriate is blocked. The
whitelisting system is used during the academic day (from quiet period
until after sports) and has caused problems with the college
applications for seniors. When a site is blocked, students can click a
link to have the site reviewed however many times upon clicking it
they are told that they have exceeded their "daily limit" for
submitting sites. The whitelisting system is defective by design
because by design it blocks the majority of the internet. Students
also want MySpace and Facebook to be unblocked during free time. While
it is true that social networking sites can be used to harass and
intimidate people, so can email, message boards, the United States
Postal System, and verbal communication to name a few. There is no
difference between sending a message over Facebook and sending one
through email. This issue has been brought to Mr. Begg and Mr. Friley
on innumerable occasions.
3.Vitamins Should be Allowed in Rooms – In order for any type of
medication to be in a student's room, the student needs to obtain
approval from the school nurse. Many students have already obtained
permission for medications like Tums and vitamins but requiring them
to obtain permission is an unnecessary restriction on their freedoms
and a hassle. Vitamins have no recreational use and many parents of
the students don't have issues with having vitamins in the dorms. This
issue has been brought to Mr. *******(Res-life director), Mr. *******(ranking administrator), and Mr.
*******(the nurse)'s attention multiple times.
4.Students want the internet to work for more hours – Many times
students work late into the night on projects and the internet shuts
off at eleven which many times makes it difficult for them to finish.
If the internet were turned on again at 5:00 as opposed to 7:00 then
those projects could be better completed. Furthermore, the internet
should not shut off before twelve because lights out is not until
then. There is no reason not to turn on internet two hours early as
long as students are using it responsibly.
5.Maintenance requests should be filled – There are a number of
maintenance requests that haven't been filled. Some of these represent
a risk to student health and safety. In ********(the girls dorm), there are rodent
and heater problems. In *******(the largest boys dorm), the lint filter is broken(in the public washer/dryer) as well as
some doors that will not open properly because of lock or hinge
problems, both of which are fire hazards. There is also a problem with
fruit flies in the dorms and cafeteria. This issues have been brought
to Mr. ******(Res-life Director), Mr. ******(the president), and Mr. ********(ranking administrator) on multiple occasions.
While some problems have been worked on, they are not solved.
6.Academic Freedom – The decisions to take and drop classes should
rest with the student. Many students have asked to drop the ****(learning help)
program and have not been allowed to do so. In one case, a student is
not be able to graduate on time because ****(learning help) took up a class slot that
could have been filled with the final science credit. This issue has
been brought up by individuals to Mr. *******(academic director), Mr. ******(res-life director) and Mr.
******(learning help coordinator). Furthermore, this issue was brought to Mr. *******(academic director) when the
senior girls met with him. The academic future of students should be
their decision especially when the schools actions stop them from
having the one they want. Decisions like this can affect college
applications in a seriously detrimental way.

All of the things on that list were presented during the ten minute
meeting with Mr. ******(res-life director) and every single thing had been brought up
multiple times to the appropriate staff and brought through the
official channels. One thing that we had intended to include on this
list that got lost in all of the commotion was that students need to
have confidentiality with school counselors. Multiple students leveled
serious accusations against Mr. ***** and ********(counselors) for breaking
confidentiality, failing to inform students about confidentiality, and
misrepresenting confidentiality. While it is true that counselors have
a legal obligation to act when they are told plans by a person to harm
others or themselves, this is a completely separate situation. As
counselors they have a legal and moral obligation to keep
confidentiality and many students do not feel that they are fulfilling
them. Unfortunately, no or very little action was taken on these
issues. Because these issues are important to us and some of them
represent a risk to personal safety we believe it is critical that
they are addressed in a timely fashion. As we have said since the
beginning, a walk-out was not our first choice for airing our
grievances but when they were repeatedly ignored we were left with no
other choice than to make sure our voices could not be ignored.
Hopefully in the next meeting with Mr. ******(the president) they will have heard our
grievances and act on the things we have been requesting of them for
almost a year. We love ********(the school) and the people who make it the special
place that it is and that's why we did this. We did this because we
are fighting to maintain the great community that gives us an
opportunity to grow and we did this to foster an open discussion about
the problems that lead to the walk-out. We are all at *********(the school) for
different reasons, but not a single one of us would choose to leave
because of the great value it holds to all of us.

They do have some important points, but the funny thing is that they said that they had exhausted all avenues open to them, but I and several other people I asked have/had not been asked to sign any petitions, which supposedly they tried. Input?

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G4 custom items and script editing help in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Custom items are fun to create, but if you do make a custom item you will need to replace an existing item, because the locations of items and enemies, and the terrain maps are hardwired into the game.

Either mess with one of the existing charms, or I think there is something you can put in to make them have the "charm" effect.

Don't know those.

If you make any creations stronger than it originally was than your creations will be stronger, but so will the enemy creations, so I don't think it's worth it unless you are looking for a challenge.

There is an ornk canister in the game, so you can shape them but they unfortunately aren't very good. Other wise you could mess with the graphics and stats to make a thahd or Alpha look and act like ornks or serviles.

Edit: Also if you haven't already you should look at the script editing thread in the helpful links.

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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Hmm, unexpected. I really have no idea how this is going to turn out, when usually I'm pretty good at predicting what is going to happen soon. This is the best good fiction I've read in months, maybe years.

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Original names in General
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Nowdays it's hard to tell how old people are or what gender they are on the internet. When I first started looking at these boards (long before I joined) I thought everyone was my age (I generally behave like someone older than me). Also I can't tell what gender people are unless they say. I thought Dikiyoba was a boy until a little before I started my account. Weird.

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That was... an interesting take on things.... Don't get it... but interesting....

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